Re: [Cooker] Install odyssey-rc Diskdrake screwed up fat32 partition

2000-10-17 Thread bruno

Pixel a écrit :
> 
> bruno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> [...]
> > ok suppose I can re-create this situation
> > 1 what kind info (log files, dumps etc.. ) would you need to isolate the
> > problem ?
> 
> well, why is windows not happy!
> 
you're asking ?
I guess because an innocent fat32 partition was killed by a bad Linux
prog ;-)
I said innocent because nobody ever asked mandrake install to do
anything to this disk drive which was fully dedicated to windows
Do you realise this is like... a murder or should I say... a genocid
because millions of innocent bytes who were living on this partition are
now dead :-(
I  tried to find who what was the reason for this war  and if anyone
still survive there, but after this blood bath :

1-Mr Microsoft Scandisk refused to tell anything and prefered to die
2-Mr Linux Fdisk refused to display anything about an "invalid"
partition
3-Mr Mandrake Diskdrake displayed me a nice blue graphic showing the
partition but refused to do anything on it

Fortunatly Mr Linux Hexedit/dev/hdb and Mr Windows Fdisk accepted to
burry everybody on hdb and recreate an empty :-(( fat32 

But really in this story that was not Mr M$ Windows who was not happy (
no sentiment anyway ) guess who was not happy ?? a silly guy called
bruno who had to reload tons of data and wasted a lot of time for that
...
BTW I wonder how many silly guys like me on this planet still have a
standard DELL computer with a Western digital 3,4 go disk drive ?? 
Would these guys try one day this fancy graphical install of linux where
you just have to click and watch and. wait ;-)
 ?? Who knows ...

> > 2 during the  install in expert mode is there some tool I can use to
> > help debugging the problem ??
> 
> the report.bug, to get it:
> 
> switch to console 2
> put a fat floppy in floppy drive
> and type "bug"
> 

ok but when ?? just after diskdrake wrote the partition table ?? do I
have to tail -f /root/ddebug.log to determine when to do it ?
as I already told you diskdrake didn't display any special message,
everything looked fine when the problem occured.

> -> it will put report.bug on floppy  and this file interests me :)
> 
> thanks, cu Pixel.
sans rancune :-)
Bruno




Re: [Cooker] Install odyssey-rc Diskdrake screwed up fat32 partition

2000-10-17 Thread Matt Steven

On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, you wrote:
> switch to console 2
> put a fat floppy in floppy drive
> and type "bug"
>
> -> it will put report.bug on floppy  and this file interests me :)
>

Is this documented anywhere?  There are several partitioning bugs that I 
wanted to report, but had no way to replicate them so I didn't bother.  Wound 
up hosing my entire 3 OS system because partitions apparently overlapped.

Perhaps a cooker How-To would be in order.  Or does such a thing exist?

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Re: [Cooker] Install odyssey-rc Diskdrake screwed up fat32 partition

2000-10-17 Thread Pixel

bruno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[...]

> > created a partition hdb5 at the beginning of the drive, it shouldn't have
> > bothered windows, or would it?
> 
> ok suppose I can re-create this situation
> 1 what kind info (log files, dumps etc.. ) would you need to isolate the
> problem ?

well, why is windows not happy!

> 2 during the  install in expert mode is there some tool I can use to
> help debugging the problem ??

the report.bug, to get it:

switch to console 2
put a fat floppy in floppy drive
and type "bug"

-> it will put report.bug on floppy  and this file interests me :)


thanks, cu Pixel.




Re: [Cooker] Install odyssey-rc Diskdrake screwed up fat32 partition

2000-10-17 Thread bruno

Pixel a écrit :
> 
> bruno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > hope this info helps however if you really need to I could try when  I
> > have time to re-create the same situation, just let me know
> 
> well, i don't have a clue how to get in that situation. Even if drakx had

you mean diskdrake ?

> created a partition hdb5 at the beginning of the drive, it shouldn't have
> bothered windows, or would it?

ok suppose I can re-create this situation
1 what kind info (log files, dumps etc.. ) would you need to isolate the
problem ?
2 during the  install in expert mode is there some tool I can use to
help debugging the problem ??




Re: [Cooker] Install odyssey-rc Diskdrake screwed up fat32 partition

2000-10-15 Thread Pixel

bruno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> hope this info helps however if you really need to I could try when  I
> have time to re-create the same situation, just let me know

well, i don't have a clue how to get in that situation. Even if drakx had
created a partition hdb5 at the beginning of the drive, it shouldn't have
bothered windows, or would it?




Re: [Cooker] Install odyssey-rc Diskdrake screwed up fat32 partition

2000-10-15 Thread bruno

Pixel a écrit :
> 
> bruno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > the next reboot under linux showed hdb1 and hdb5 .. he he.. why hdb5 ??
> > I'm supposed to have only one partition on this drive . I then realised
> > that for some reason there was a small empty parttion (about 4 meg) at
> > the beginnig of the disk . this partition was not seen by windows, (may
> > be seen by diskdrake but if so, the graphical representation was so thin
> > (only 4 meg) I coukdn't see it !!!). may be this caused the problem
> > whith disdrake .
> 
> i don't understand what happened, can you mail me the /root/ddebug.log?

No, I'm so sorry :-) it's too late . I needed a working system quickly,
so meanwhile I have reinstalled everything with another partition layout
i.e.: no more important data on hdb ;-)
anyway seems that these 4 meg were free space at the begginning of hdb
seems also this free space was existing before diskdrake run
also remember this disk has been used in the past as a primary master
with lilo on the mbr

hope this info helps however if you really need to I could try when  I
have time to re-create the same situation, just let me know
>




Re: [Cooker] Install odyssey-rc Diskdrake screwed up fat32 partition

2000-10-15 Thread Pixel

pgeorges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[...]

> I can also see a small partition at the beginning of disks when using
> tools like partition magic.
> But this useless (?) partition is not seen as a first partition, all OS
> behaves as it was not present.
> Until now, this weird partition never bothered me.

there's always some sectors lost at the beginning of the drive ("v" in fdisk can
tell you how many) but they can't be used and no prog proposes to use them.




Re: [Cooker] Install odyssey-rc Diskdrake screwed up fat32 partition

2000-10-15 Thread pgeorges

Pixel a écrit :

> > the next reboot under linux showed hdb1 and hdb5 .. he he.. why hdb5 ??
> > I'm supposed to have only one partition on this drive . I then realised
> > that for some reason there was a small empty parttion (about 4 meg) at
> > the beginnig of the disk . this partition was not seen by windows, (may
> > be seen by diskdrake but if so, the graphical representation was so thin
> > (only 4 meg) I coukdn't see it !!!). may be this caused the problem
> > whith disdrake .

I can also see a small partition at the beginning of disks when using
tools like partition magic.
But this useless (?) partition is not seen as a first partition, all OS
behaves as it was not present.
Until now, this weird partition never bothered me.




Re: [Cooker] Install odyssey-rc Diskdrake screwed up fat32 partition

2000-10-15 Thread Pixel

bruno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[...]

> the next reboot under linux showed hdb1 and hdb5 .. he he.. why hdb5 ??
> I'm supposed to have only one partition on this drive . I then realised
> that for some reason there was a small empty parttion (about 4 meg) at
> the beginnig of the disk . this partition was not seen by windows, (may
> be seen by diskdrake but if so, the graphical representation was so thin
> (only 4 meg) I coukdn't see it !!!). may be this caused the problem
> whith disdrake .

i don't understand what happened, can you mail me the /root/ddebug.log?

[...]

> by the way why can't we anymore choose to use diskdruid or fdisk during
> the partitionning stage ???

type "linux fdisk" at syslinux prompt and you should be able to use fdisk.




Re: [Cooker] Install odyssey-rc Diskdrake screwed up fat32 partition

2000-10-15 Thread bruno

After the install of  odyssey-rc (iso images from ftp.free.fr mirror
dated october 12, 2000) my hdb fat32 was unusuable under windows and
linux

1-config:

dell xpsm200 pentium mmx 200
ide drives :
 primary ide master hda MAXTOR 90871U2 cyl 16383 heads 16 s 63  8,4 go
hda1 win98 fat32 3 go
hda2 to hda7 linux partitions   
 slave  hdb Western digital caviar 33100 WDAC33100-18H cyl
6136 heads 16 s 63   3,4 go
hdb1 win98 fat32 3,4 go
  no linux partition at all on this drive (but this
drive has been used in the past as a primary master with lilo on the MBR
) 

2- circumstances:

I simply run an install (expert mode) when diskdrake  prompted I made a
lot of changes to linux partitions on hda
but no change at all to hdb 
when I used diskdrake no particular messages were dislpayed everything
looked fine the same when I closed diskdrake no messages, everything
went fine.
it is only when trying to reboot under windows I realised that
although I didn't make any change to hdb partitions diskdrake screwed up
the partition table of this drive making it unusuable under windows and
unreadeable by linux fdisk .
windows scandisk froze when trying to check/repair this drive
only windows fdisk allowed me to remove/recreate partition on this drive

3- thoughts

the next reboot under linux showed hdb1 and hdb5 .. he he.. why hdb5 ??
I'm supposed to have only one partition on this drive . I then realised
that for some reason there was a small empty parttion (about 4 meg) at
the beginnig of the disk . this partition was not seen by windows, (may
be seen by diskdrake but if so, the graphical representation was so thin
(only 4 meg) I coukdn't see it !!!). may be this caused the problem
whith disdrake .

4- suggestions:

 I feel something is still not working in diskdrake and the final 7.2
should not be released whithout fixing diskdrake first.
by the way why can't we anymore choose to use diskdruid or fdisk during
the partitionning stage ???