Re: [Cooker] One more opinion about Mandrake-9.0
Buchan Milne wrote on Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 12:21:41PM +0200 : I would assume then that samba (using the kernel interfaces?) would only be able to show the free disk space on a share as the remaining quota on XFS then (and not ext2/3)? (I haven't had a chance to test yet ...) Depends what user the smb daemon is running as at that point. I do not know the answer to your question since I haven't tried that particular scenario. If I have time, I'll do it soon. Maybe Sylvestre has tried it? Blue skies... Todd -- Todd Lyons -- MandrakeSoft, Inc. http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.0-0.3mdk Kernel 2.4.19-16mdk msg77821/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] One more opinion about Mandrake-9.0
Todd Lyons wrote: Buchan Milne wrote on Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 12:21:41PM +0200 : I would assume then that samba (using the kernel interfaces?) would only be able to show the free disk space on a share as the remaining quota on XFS then (and not ext2/3)? (I haven't had a chance to test yet ...) Depends what user the smb daemon is running as at that point. I think in 2.2.x, the smbd mainly runs as the user (with security=user), but this may have changed recently, and has changed in HEAD, but I am not sure to which extent. And I haven't played with HEAD since about 3.0alpha14 ... I do not know the answer to your question since I haven't tried that particular scenario. If I have time, I'll do it soon. Maybe Sylvestre has tried it? Probably not yet, mostly been testing ACLs etc ... We'll take a look ... Buchan -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
Re: [Cooker] One more opinion about Mandrake-9.0
Todd Lyons wrote: Ben Reser wrote on Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 11:32:44AM -0700 : On Sat, Sep 28, 2002 at 03:10:37PM +0200, Claudio wrote: To expand on this, quotas *DO* work for ext3. They can be set and the kernel enforces them. However, users cannot see their own quota. That's a result of the move policy out of the kernel notion. It *enforces* policy, but it is not used to *make* policy. The XFS code however does both. As root, you can view users' quota, but as a user, you cannot view your own using ext3. In XFS, it works like it used to. If need be, I can repost (or send to the original poster offlist) a very long detailed message about quotas on the current kernel. Stew has taken a very detailed look into quota and the quotactl() function as implemented in the kernel and we understand what it's doing and why the limitation exists. I would assume then that samba (using the kernel interfaces?) would only be able to show the free disk space on a share as the remaining quota on XFS then (and not ext2/3)? (I haven't had a chance to test yet ...) Buchan -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
Re: [Cooker] One more opinion about Mandrake-9.0
On Sat, Sep 28, 2002 at 03:10:37PM +0200, Claudio wrote: I've read many comment about latest 9.0 but just yesterday and today I could install and test this new version. I have even seen many flames, and even if I see some bugs (eg. quota won't work on ext3 fs), I have only to appreciate the great work developers have done. The quota issue is a problem with the ext3fs's support for quotas. Not really a bug that Mandrake created. If you want quotas to work right your best bet right now is XFS. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.
Re: [Cooker] One more opinion about Mandrake-9.0
Ben Reser wrote on Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 11:32:44AM -0700 : On Sat, Sep 28, 2002 at 03:10:37PM +0200, Claudio wrote: I've read many comment about latest 9.0 but just yesterday and today I could install and test this new version. I have even seen many flames, and even if I see some bugs (eg. quota won't work on ext3 fs), I have only to appreciate the great work developers have done. The quota issue is a problem with the ext3fs's support for quotas. Not really a bug that Mandrake created. If you want quotas to work right your best bet right now is XFS. To expand on this, quotas *DO* work for ext3. They can be set and the kernel enforces them. However, users cannot see their own quota. That's a result of the move policy out of the kernel notion. It *enforces* policy, but it is not used to *make* policy. The XFS code however does both. As root, you can view users' quota, but as a user, you cannot view your own using ext3. In XFS, it works like it used to. If need be, I can repost (or send to the original poster offlist) a very long detailed message about quotas on the current kernel. Stew has taken a very detailed look into quota and the quotactl() function as implemented in the kernel and we understand what it's doing and why the limitation exists. Blue skies... Todd -- ...and I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger, those who attempt to poison and destroy my binaries, and you will know my name is root, when I lay my vengeance upon thee. Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.0-0.3mdk Kernel 2.4.19-16mdk msg77562/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] One more opinion about Mandrake-9.0
On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Claudio wrote: Hello Mandrakers ;-) I've read many comment about latest 9.0 but just yesterday and today I could install and test this new version. I have even seen many flames, and even if I see some bugs (eg. quota won't work on ext3 fs), I have only to appreciate the great work developers have done. I like very very much this release: seems to be very stable, up-to-date and full of innovation. So, we all shouldn't forger that this is a .0 release and should instead be happy for such a wonderful work. 9.0 is the best Mandrake ever, rock solid. Gnome2 has a great look and feel. Whoever said it was a windoz breaker was right on. I put my money where my mouth is a couple of days ago and ordered the powerpack. Hope many others do the same. Mandrake is the best distro on the planet, IMHO. Dale Huckeby
