RE: [Cooker] Re: Mandrake 8.2 and ext3

2002-02-14 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

> Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On þÔ×, 2002-02-14 at 21:16, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> >> Partition Magic can't handle ext3 or reiserfs.  Acronis OS Selector
can
> >> and does it beautifully - it's much cheaper than PM as well.
> >> http://www.acronis.com
> >
> > OS Selector != PartitionMagic. BootMagic can boot from any
partition. Do
> > not compare apples with oranges.
> 
> If you had follewed the link, you would have seen that Acronis OS
> Selector is not just another boot manager, it includes a partition
> manager as well.
> 

Really. I could not follow link at the time of replying and was confused
by name "OS Selector". Thank you.

-andrej




Re: [Cooker] Re: Mandrake 8.2 and ext3

2002-02-14 Thread Peter Ruskin

On Thursday 14 Feb 2002 06:07, Bernard Varaine wrote:
> on this subjects is there any tool to chnage a partition from ext2 to
> ext3 without losing the data on it.
> and may be to chnage partition size also (like partition magic)
>
> Bernard
>
Partition Magic can't handle ext3 or reiserfs.  Acronis OS Selector can 
and does it beautifully - it's much cheaper than PM as well.
http://www.acronis.com
-- 
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Re: [Cooker] Re: Mandrake 8.2 and ext3

2002-02-14 Thread James W. McComas

Try acronis 5.0 deluxe

Bernard Varaine wrote:

> on this subjects is there any tool to chnage a partition from ext2 to
> ext3 without losing the data on it.
> and may be to chnage partition size also (like partition magic)
>
> Bernard
>
> George Mitchell wrote:
> > Brian J. Murrell wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 08:30:49PM +0100, Danny Tholen wrote:
> >>
> >>> I wonder how *safe* ext3 is.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I wouldn't fall 10 stories on to it and hope to live.
> >>
> >>> I accidently filled up my /usr partition, and 10 min later
> >>> 'ls' gave segfaults.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Yeah.
> >>
> >>> The file turned out to be corrupted
> >>>
> >>
> >> Which file?  ls?  How did you determine it was corrupted?
> >>
> >>> No idea if this is related, or even caused by ext3...but suspicious
> >>> nontheless. Anyone else
> >>> problems with filesystem when partitions full?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Uhm, yeah.  Lots of problems when filesystems fill up.  :-)  Don't
> >> fill up filesystems!  :-)  Use LVM -- although even LVM can't "create"
> >> diskspace that is just not there.  :-)
> >>
> >> b.
> >>
> >>
> > Oh, and remember ext3 is just ext2 with a journal and a refined recovery
> > routine.  Whenever a file system gets full, anything left sitting in
> > memory is playing musical chairs with whatever little space is left. And
> > the end result usually has little to do with the specific file system
> > type.  My personal experience with ext3 (I used reiserfs prior to 8.1)
> > is that it is solid as a rock.  My machine hangs up on USB unload
> > consistantly, and I have NEVER had a problem on reboot.  I am using a
> > combination of ext3 and reiserfs for 100% journaling.  I LIKE IT!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >





Re: [Cooker] Re: Mandrake 8.2 and ext3

2002-02-14 Thread Danny Tholen

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On Wednesday 13 February 2002 21:45, you wrote:

> > The file turned out to be corrupted
>
> Which file?  ls?  How did you determine it was corrupted?
yes, /bin/ls, I did an md5sum and compared it with my other system.
it was also a few hunderd bytes smaller. It seemed to be the only file
that was different.

Danny


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Re: [Cooker] Re: Mandrake 8.2 and ext3

2002-02-13 Thread George Mitchell

Bernard Varaine wrote:
Well, yes, sort of.  It is in fact mentioned in this very thread by Han, 
back toward the beginning.  Good overviews may be found here: 
http://www.warpedsystems.sk.ca/article.php?sid=324 and here: 
http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=1634&lang=en
As for partition resizing, I have heard that there are tools around, but 
I'm not sure I would really trust any of them with my data, including 
PM.  If you back up first or do it with a non essential system it can 
probably work, but beware, things can go wrong.

- George


> on this subjects is there any tool to chnage a partition from ext2 to 
> ext3 without losing the data on it.
> and may be to chnage partition size also (like partition magic)
>
> Bernard
>
> George Mitchell wrote:
>
>> Brian J. Murrell wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 08:30:49PM +0100, Danny Tholen wrote:
>>>
 I wonder how *safe* ext3 is.

>>>
>>> I wouldn't fall 10 stories on to it and hope to live.
>>>
 I accidently filled up my /usr partition, and 10 min later
 'ls' gave segfaults.

>>>
>>> Yeah.
>>>
 The file turned out to be corrupted

>>>
>>> Which file?  ls?  How did you determine it was corrupted?
>>>
 No idea if this is related, or even caused by ext3...but suspicious 
 nontheless. Anyone else
 problems with filesystem when partitions full?

>>>
>>> Uhm, yeah.  Lots of problems when filesystems fill up.  :-)  Don't
>>> fill up filesystems!  :-)  Use LVM -- although even LVM can't "create"
>>> diskspace that is just not there.  :-)
>>>
>>> b.
>>>
>>>
>> Oh, and remember ext3 is just ext2 with a journal and a refined 
>> recovery routine.  Whenever a file system gets full, anything left 
>> sitting in memory is playing musical chairs with whatever little 
>> space is left. And the end result usually has little to do with the 
>> specific file system type.  My personal experience with ext3 (I used 
>> reiserfs prior to 8.1) is that it is solid as a rock.  My machine 
>> hangs up on USB unload consistantly, and I have NEVER had a problem 
>> on reboot.  I am using a combination of ext3 and reiserfs for 100% 
>> journaling.  I LIKE IT!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>







Re: [Cooker] Re: Mandrake 8.2 and ext3

2002-02-13 Thread Bernard Varaine

on this subjects is there any tool to chnage a partition from ext2 to 
ext3 without losing the data on it.
and may be to chnage partition size also (like partition magic)

Bernard

George Mitchell wrote:
> Brian J. Murrell wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 08:30:49PM +0100, Danny Tholen wrote:
>>
>>> I wonder how *safe* ext3 is.
>>>
>>
>> I wouldn't fall 10 stories on to it and hope to live.
>>
>>> I accidently filled up my /usr partition, and 10 min later
>>> 'ls' gave segfaults.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah.
>>
>>> The file turned out to be corrupted
>>>
>>
>> Which file?  ls?  How did you determine it was corrupted?
>>
>>> No idea if this is related, or even caused by ext3...but suspicious 
>>> nontheless. Anyone else
>>> problems with filesystem when partitions full?
>>>
>>
>> Uhm, yeah.  Lots of problems when filesystems fill up.  :-)  Don't
>> fill up filesystems!  :-)  Use LVM -- although even LVM can't "create"
>> diskspace that is just not there.  :-)
>>
>> b.
>>
>>
> Oh, and remember ext3 is just ext2 with a journal and a refined recovery 
> routine.  Whenever a file system gets full, anything left sitting in 
> memory is playing musical chairs with whatever little space is left. And 
> the end result usually has little to do with the specific file system 
> type.  My personal experience with ext3 (I used reiserfs prior to 8.1) 
> is that it is solid as a rock.  My machine hangs up on USB unload 
> consistantly, and I have NEVER had a problem on reboot.  I am using a 
> combination of ext3 and reiserfs for 100% journaling.  I LIKE IT!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 




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Re: [Cooker] Re: Mandrake 8.2 and ext3

2002-02-13 Thread George Mitchell

Brian J. Murrell wrote:

>On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 08:30:49PM +0100, Danny Tholen wrote:
>
>>I wonder how *safe* ext3 is.
>>
>
>I wouldn't fall 10 stories on to it and hope to live.
>
>>I accidently filled up my /usr partition, and 10 min later
>>'ls' gave segfaults.
>>
>
>Yeah.
>
>>The file turned out to be corrupted
>>
>
>Which file?  ls?  How did you determine it was corrupted?
>
>>No idea if this is related, or even caused by ext3...but suspicious nontheless. 
>Anyone else
>>problems with filesystem when partitions full?
>>
>
>Uhm, yeah.  Lots of problems when filesystems fill up.  :-)  Don't
>fill up filesystems!  :-)  Use LVM -- although even LVM can't "create"
>diskspace that is just not there.  :-)
>
>b.
>
>
Oh, and remember ext3 is just ext2 with a journal and a refined recovery 
routine.  Whenever a file system gets full, anything left sitting in 
memory is playing musical chairs with whatever little space is left. 
 And the end result usually has little to do with the specific file 
system type.  My personal experience with ext3 (I used reiserfs prior to 
8.1) is that it is solid as a rock.  My machine hangs up on USB unload 
consistantly, and I have NEVER had a problem on reboot.  I am using a 
combination of ext3 and reiserfs for 100% journaling.  I LIKE IT!