Re: [Cooker] Re: kernel-secure - back to UP/non-enterprise?

2002-04-28 Thread Charles A. Shirley


On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, Leon Brooks wrote:

 On Sunday 28 April 2002 11:10, Levi Ramsey wrote:
  On Sun Apr 28  9:51 +0800, Leon Brooks wrote:
  Running Mandrake 5.2 in front of me is a dual PPro-200 system on a TD6NF
  mobo. One example does not a statistic make, but...
 
  Am I just being stupid, or aren't PPro's i686's?
 
 It could be me being stupid, but IIRC they didn't make the multi-CPU stuff 
 entirely happy until very late in the series.
 
  IIRC, the chip architecture in the PPro's is the P6, which is the basis
  of everything up to the P4.
 
 I'm guessing that `basis' != complete feature set.
 
 Cheers; Leon

As I recollect, P-II was electrically the same as the P-pro, but had MMX.
In fact, www.Powerleap.com will sell you an accellerator for your UP P-Pro
machine using a coppermine celeron processor past 700 MHz, and a PPGA
celeron up to 533 MHz for Dual processor systems.  So, as long as i686
optimization doesn't include MMX, etc, I think making the SMP kernels i686
optimized is a good move.  I think i486 had better SMP support than
classic Pentium, and none of the Pentium clones had any.

Best Regards,
Chuck Shirley





Re: [Cooker] Re: kernel-secure - back to UP/non-enterprise?

2002-04-27 Thread Alexander Skwar

»Juan Quintela« sagte am 2002-04-27 um 12:51:01 +0200 :
 - i586
 - i686
 - i686SMP
 - i686-4GB

Hm, are there any disadvantages in the -4GB part compared to the plain
kernels?  If not, then why not build every kernel with high mem support
and drop the non -4GB ones?

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Re: [Cooker] Re: kernel-secure - back to UP/non-enterprise?

2002-04-27 Thread Peter Ruskin

On Saturday 27 Apr 2002 16:20, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 »Juan Quintela« sagte am 2002-04-27 um 12:51:01 +0200 :
  - i586
  - i686
  - i686SMP
  - i686-4GB

 Hm, are there any disadvantages in the -4GB part compared to the plain
 kernels?  If not, then why not build every kernel with high mem support
 and drop the non -4GB ones?

 Alexander Skwar

Some things don't work with high memory support -- for example Win4Lin
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Re: [Cooker] Re: kernel-secure - back to UP/non-enterprise?

2002-04-27 Thread Leon Brooks

On Saturday 27 April 2002 18:51, Juan Quintela wrote:
 Making SMP versions to work only in i686  upper is a good move
 because Pentium support for multiprocessing is quite bad, and anyways,
 there is almost no i586 SMP boards (comparing with i686/athlon boards).

Running Mandrake 5.2 in front of me is a dual PPro-200 system on a TD6NF mobo. 
One example does not a statistic make, but...

Cheers; Leon





Re: [Cooker] Re: kernel-secure - back to UP/non-enterprise?

2002-04-27 Thread Levi Ramsey

On Sun Apr 28  9:51 +0800, Leon Brooks wrote:
 Running Mandrake 5.2 in front of me is a dual PPro-200 system on a TD6NF mobo. 
 One example does not a statistic make, but...

Am I just being stupid, or aren't PPro's i686's?

IIRC, the chip architecture in the PPro's is the P6, which is the basis
of everything up to the P4.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: kernel-secure - back to UP/non-enterprise?

2002-04-27 Thread Leon Brooks

On Sunday 28 April 2002 11:10, Levi Ramsey wrote:
 On Sun Apr 28  9:51 +0800, Leon Brooks wrote:
 Running Mandrake 5.2 in front of me is a dual PPro-200 system on a TD6NF
 mobo. One example does not a statistic make, but...

 Am I just being stupid, or aren't PPro's i686's?

It could be me being stupid, but IIRC they didn't make the multi-CPU stuff 
entirely happy until very late in the series.

 IIRC, the chip architecture in the PPro's is the P6, which is the basis
 of everything up to the P4.

I'm guessing that `basis' != complete feature set.

Cheers; Leon