RE: [Cooker] Software Manager and rsync?
Yep, I was about to post the same but forgot. Not as exclusive choice of course but as option. Right. Not exclusive! ftp or at least http works about everywhere thru every firewall. But rsync? Yes, at home I use rsync whenever possible - but at work I wouldn't be able to use rsync, thanks to the firewall. 1. runsocks rsync ... needs SOCKS proxy of course 2. export RSYNC_PROXY=your-http-proxy:proxy-port as long as proxy does not block CONNECT to non-437 ports (which is paranoid) it works like a charm. How do you think I use rsync? :-) -andrej
Re: [Cooker] Software Manager and rsync?
On 20010829 Borsenkow Andrej wrote: On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, David Odin wrote: On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 09:00:03AM +0200, Eivind Eriksen wrote: With all the resent talk about rsync vs. others: Would'nt it be better if Software Manager (MandrakeUpdate) based its list updating on rsync? Instead of retreaving the whole (~12MB) file each time, it could only fetch the incremental changes. From what I've heard, rsync isn't that good with compressed data, and the hdlist are gzipped. And I use it every day and rsyncing hdlist takes less then one minute (at most) with line at about 20KB/s. That is no more than 1MB and *not* 12MB in any case. I suppose that rsync uses a listing (just names) to check packages, like good,old MandrakeUpdate before the mix with rpmdrake. Could anybody add a check based just on 'ls' (or ftp listing), instead of 12 Mb of hdlist ?. I found stupid to reload the full listing every night when checking cooker updates. That is why I use gftp with reverse-date listings... -- J.A. Magallon # Let the source be with you... mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Cooker) for i586 Linux werewolf 2.4.9-ac3 #1 SMP Tue Aug 28 01:27:23 CEST 2001 i686
RE: [Cooker] Software Manager and rsync?
On 20010829 Borsenkow Andrej wrote: On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, David Odin wrote: On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 09:00:03AM +0200, Eivind Eriksen wrote: With all the resent talk about rsync vs. others: Would'nt it be better if Software Manager (MandrakeUpdate) based its list updating on rsync? Instead of retreaving the whole (~12MB) file each time, it could only fetch the incremental changes. From what I've heard, rsync isn't that good with compressed data, and the hdlist are gzipped. And I use it every day and rsyncing hdlist takes less then one minute (at most) with line at about 20KB/s. That is no more than 1MB and *not* 12MB in any case. I suppose that rsync uses a listing (just names) to check packages, like good,old MandrakeUpdate before the mix with rpmdrake. No. It works differently (what has listing to do with downloading a single file?) -andrej
RE: [Cooker] Software Manager and rsync?
What about HTTP-AUTH? I need to authenticate when going online - for billing stuff. In my browser, I'm prompted for username/password. I guess, no. At least nothing in manuals. -andrej
Re: [Cooker] Software Manager and rsync?
On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 09:00:03AM +0200, Eivind Eriksen wrote: With all the resent talk about rsync vs. others: Would'nt it be better if Software Manager (MandrakeUpdate) based its list updating on rsync? Instead of retreaving the whole (~12MB) file each time, it could only fetch the incremental changes. From what I've heard, rsync isn't that good with compressed data, and the hdlist are gzipped. DindinX -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Cooker] Software Manager and rsync?
With all the resent talk about rsync vs. others: Would'nt it be better if Software Manager (MandrakeUpdate) based its list updating on rsync? Instead of retreaving the whole (~12MB) file each time, it could only fetch the incremental changes. Yep, I was about to post the same but forgot. Not as exclusive choice of course but as option. -andrej
Re: [Cooker] Software Manager and rsync?
On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, David Odin wrote: On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 09:00:03AM +0200, Eivind Eriksen wrote: With all the resent talk about rsync vs. others: Would'nt it be better if Software Manager (MandrakeUpdate) based its list updating on rsync? Instead of retreaving the whole (~12MB) file each time, it could only fetch the incremental changes. From what I've heard, rsync isn't that good with compressed data, and the hdlist are gzipped. And I use it every day and rsyncing hdlist takes less then one minute (at most) with line at about 20KB/s. That is no more than 1MB and *not* 12MB in any case. -andrej
Re: [Cooker] Software Manager and rsync?
So sprach »Borsenkow Andrej« am 2001-08-29 um 11:12:33 +0400 : Yep, I was about to post the same but forgot. Not as exclusive choice of course but as option. Right. Not exclusive! ftp or at least http works about everywhere thru every firewall. But rsync? Yes, at home I use rsync whenever possible - but at work I wouldn't be able to use rsync, thanks to the firewall. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 17 hours 9 minutes
Re: [Cooker] Software Manager and rsync?
David Odin wrote: From what I've heard, rsync isn't that good with compressed data, and the hdlist are gzipped. Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (in a different thread) The most notable case is hdlists; with lftp you get 15MB every time, with rsycn you get several KB (well, in order of magnitude :-). That would seem to indicate that rsync handles compressed data well enough. Randy Kramer
