Re: [Cooker] The Weekly Cooker -- idea.
> "p" == pablito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: p> ... That way, you could have a daily cooker, and those who p> have troubles making these iso files could download weekly iso p> files. If the iso's were uniquely named (by date?) and it was accessble via HTTP, www.swarmcast.com could ease the pressure on the source cite -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 T(C)Inc Business Innovations through Open Source http://www.teledyn.com KernelWiki Community Linux Docs: http://kernelbook.sourceforge.net/wiki
Re: [Cooker] The Weekly Cooker -- idea.
michael wrote: > Ron: > The requested URL /~ronst/rsync/troels_rsync3.pl was not found on this > server. > > Apache/1.3.12 Server at www.ains.net.au Port 80 Huh? Everything is working correctly. Try: http://www.ains.net.au/~ronst/rsync/troels.rsync3.pl ie not a _ but a . But the preferred entry is via my web site and click appropriately. Firstly, read the reaedme.html.You will need to download the readme.html and the rsync_exclude files as well as troels.rsync3.pl. -- Ron. [au] Kindly note my new email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and new web site: http://www.ains.net.au/~ronst/
Re: [Cooker] The Weekly Cooker -- idea.
On Tuesday 05 June 2001 04:14 pm, Ron Stodden pointed out: > Eaon wrote: > > That seems a wee bit daft. In exactly what way does it save > > bandwidth to have someone download 1 Gig of individual RPMs versus > > 1 Gig of ISOs? It's still 1 Gig. > > Users of my troels.rsync3.pl to download Mandrake trees and isos know > that while you cannot change the size of an iso file, > troels.rsymc3.pl permits you to do very selective downloads. For > example, it comes from my web site (see below) arranged not to > download any languages other than English, saving many hundreds of > megabytes. > > Another tip: If you are not a developer, you can add: > > - *-devel-* > > to the rsync exclude list and so avoid downloading all the devel > RPMs, again saving considerable download time and space. Ron: The requested URL /~ronst/rsync/troels_rsync3.pl was not found on this server. Apache/1.3.12 Server at www.ains.net.au Port 80 -- -m-
Re: [Cooker] The Weekly Cooker -- idea.
Eaon wrote: > > That seems a wee bit daft. In exactly what way does it save bandwidth to > have someone download 1 Gig of individual RPMs versus 1 Gig of ISOs? It's > still 1 Gig. Users of my troels.rsync3.pl to download Mandrake trees and isos know that while you cannot change the size of an iso file, troels.rsymc3.pl permits you to do very selective downloads. For example, it comes from my web site (see below) arranged not to download any languages other than English, saving many hundreds of megabytes. Another tip: If you are not a developer, you can add: - *-devel-* to the rsync exclude list and so avoid downloading all the devel RPMs, again saving considerable download time and space. -- Ron. [au] Kindly note my new email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and new web site: http://www.ains.net.au/~ronst/
Re: Re: [Cooker] The Weekly Cooker -- idea.
The idea wasn't about saving bandwidth, but about increasing the testing time available for cooker. I mean 24 hours is just not enough time to give a distro any kind of "full rigours" of testing. A weekly ISO image, sanctioned by Mandrakesoft of the cooker distro would give a full week to testers to "hack", as well as give those who like the hemoraging edge (downloading via. network every day) what they like as well. On Tue, 05 Jun 2001, Blue Lizard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Eaon wrote: > > >That seems a wee bit daft. In exactly what way does it save bandwidth > to > >have someone download 1 Gig of individual RPMs versus 1 Gig of ISOs? > It's > >still 1 Gig. > > > >Anyway, I'm seeing ISOs there. They're kind of scattered - some in > >Mandrake-iso (SNF, freq, corpo) and some in Mandrake/iso (8.0) - but > they > >are there. > > > >Eaon > > > >>-Original Message- > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Blue Lizard > >>Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 5:15 PM > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Subject: Re: [Cooker] The Weekly Cooker -- idea. > >> > >> > >>The big guy at rpmfind got real mad and took off ALL isos cuz it took > up > >>so much bandwidth. See the note he left in the directory. Dont think > >>he ever put em back up. > >>This was one day after i was downloading them both at same time > >>amounting to 600kbs. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > Dont ask me. > And i saw some isos and figured the move-around would confuse the > mirroring process enough to get em on there :) > > > > >
Re: [Cooker] The Weekly Cooker -- idea.
Eaon wrote: >That seems a wee bit daft. In exactly what way does it save bandwidth to >have someone download 1 Gig of individual RPMs versus 1 Gig of ISOs? It's >still 1 Gig. > >Anyway, I'm seeing ISOs there. They're kind of scattered - some in >Mandrake-iso (SNF, freq, corpo) and some in Mandrake/iso (8.0) - but they >are there. > >Eaon > >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Blue Lizard >>Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 5:15 PM >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: [Cooker] The Weekly Cooker -- idea. >> >> >>The big guy at rpmfind got real mad and took off ALL isos cuz it took up >>so much bandwidth. See the note he left in the directory. Dont think >>he ever put em back up. >>This was one day after i was downloading them both at same time >>amounting to 600kbs. >> >> >> > > > Dont ask me. And i saw some isos and figured the move-around would confuse the mirroring process enough to get em on there :)
RE: [Cooker] The Weekly Cooker -- idea.
That seems a wee bit daft. In exactly what way does it save bandwidth to have someone download 1 Gig of individual RPMs versus 1 Gig of ISOs? It's still 1 Gig. Anyway, I'm seeing ISOs there. They're kind of scattered - some in Mandrake-iso (SNF, freq, corpo) and some in Mandrake/iso (8.0) - but they are there. Eaon > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Blue Lizard > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 5:15 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Cooker] The Weekly Cooker -- idea. > > > The big guy at rpmfind got real mad and took off ALL isos cuz it took up > so much bandwidth. See the note he left in the directory. Dont think > he ever put em back up. > This was one day after i was downloading them both at same time > amounting to 600kbs. > > >
Re: Re: [Cooker] The Weekly Cooker -- idea.
If these weekly files were auto-generated on a weekly basis (on the mirrors themselves), AND Bugzilla had a weekly entry for the "weekly cooker" (dated, of course), then this would be a perfectly viable alternative. On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, pablito ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > on the Weekly Cooker idea -- wouldn't it be possible to write a script > that > automatically builds iso files of the current cooker every week, and > stick > it on the mirror sites? The script would run at a certain time every > week. > That way, you could have a daily cooker, and those who have troubles > making > these iso files could download weekly iso files. > > although maybe the mirrors wouldn't be happy running scripts. -- > > -Original Message- > From: Kyle Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 7:48 PM > Subject: [Cooker] The Weekly Cooker > > > >I think its time we all took a look at the cooker release policy. > > > >What we appear to be doing now is releasing daily cookers. Each day, a > new > >Distro for public testing, tinkering and revision. > > > > > > >
Re: [Cooker] The Weekly Cooker -- idea.
> > The big guy at rpmfind got real mad and took off ALL isos cuz it took up > so much bandwidth. See the note he left in the directory. Dont think > he ever put em back up. > This was one day after i was downloading them both at same time > amounting to 600kbs. > > > So now we know who the guilty one
Re: [Cooker] The Weekly Cooker -- idea.
The big guy at rpmfind got real mad and took off ALL isos cuz it took up so much bandwidth. See the note he left in the directory. Dont think he ever put em back up. This was one day after i was downloading them both at same time amounting to 600kbs.
Re: [Cooker] The Weekly Cooker -- idea.
on the Weekly Cooker idea -- wouldn't it be possible to write a script that automatically builds iso files of the current cooker every week, and stick it on the mirror sites? The script would run at a certain time every week. That way, you could have a daily cooker, and those who have troubles making these iso files could download weekly iso files. although maybe the mirrors wouldn't be happy running scripts. -- -Original Message- From: Kyle Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 7:48 PM Subject: [Cooker] The Weekly Cooker >I think its time we all took a look at the cooker release policy. > >What we appear to be doing now is releasing daily cookers. Each day, a new >Distro for public testing, tinkering and revision. >
