Re: [Cooker] Too many unneeded packages

2001-08-29 Thread Marcel Pol

On Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:47:03 +0200
laurent Montel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I created these packages with all feature. So kdegraphics needs
gphoto2, 
 sorry but it's necessary.
 I don't have time to split package.
 But if you want that I split packages, I will split them after mdk
8.1 but I 
 will not create beta kde package, because it's not possible to
maintain kde 
 when we split them.
 So I will create just stable version, no problem.

I take it this is a poll :)
So here's my vote.
I vote for beta packages, not for split packages.

I assume if someone installs kde, he has some disk space to use.
At least I do.
I don't consider it much of a problem.


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Marcel Pol
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  I don't have a digital camera, so I don't want or need gphoto2.
  However:
 
  [root@teich root]# urpme libgphoto2
  To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be
removed
  (4 MB):
  libgphoto2-2.0-0.beta1.2mdk kdegraphics-2.2-5mdk
  gphoto2-2.0-0.beta1.2mdk
 
  Also, I don't have a modem, so I don't want or need any fax stuff.
 So I
  want to remove efax.  Hoever:
 
  [root@teich root]# urpme efax
  To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be
removed
  (5 MB):
  efax-0.9-8mdk kdeutils-2.2-7mdk
 
  Granted, gphoto2 is only 70k, libgphoto2 only 515k and efax is
only some
  200k in size - but this adds up!
 
  For these two packages, would it be possible to create subpackages
  kdegraphics-ghoto2 and kdeutils-efax, which can be
installed/removed
  when installing gphoto2 and efax?
 
  Generally - don't get me wrong here - but I think that a lot ot
packages
  are requiring too much of maybe not needed cruft.  Okay, things
might
  be useful for some users, but in this case, subpackages should be
  created if possible.







Re: [Cooker] Too many unneeded packages

2001-08-29 Thread laurent Montel

Le Mercredi 29 Aot 2001 00:48, Alexander Skwar a écrit :
 Hi


Hi,

I created these packages with all feature. So kdegraphics needs gphoto2, 
sorry but it's necessary.
I don't have time to split package.
But if you want that I split packages, I will split them after mdk 8.1 but I 
will not create beta kde package, because it's not possible to maintain kde 
when we split them.
So I will create just stable version, no problem.

bye


 I don't have a digital camera, so I don't want or need gphoto2.
 However:

 [root@teich root]# urpme libgphoto2
 To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be removed
 (4 MB):
 libgphoto2-2.0-0.beta1.2mdk kdegraphics-2.2-5mdk
 gphoto2-2.0-0.beta1.2mdk

 Also, I don't have a modem, so I don't want or need any fax stuff.  So I
 want to remove efax.  Hoever:

 [root@teich root]# urpme efax
 To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be removed
 (5 MB):
 efax-0.9-8mdk kdeutils-2.2-7mdk

 Granted, gphoto2 is only 70k, libgphoto2 only 515k and efax is only some
 200k in size - but this adds up!

 For these two packages, would it be possible to create subpackages
 kdegraphics-ghoto2 and kdeutils-efax, which can be installed/removed
 when installing gphoto2 and efax?

 Generally - don't get me wrong here - but I think that a lot ot packages
 are requiring too much of maybe not needed cruft.  Okay, things might
 be useful for some users, but in this case, subpackages should be
 created if possible.

 Alexander Skwar




Re: [Cooker] Too many unneeded packages

2001-08-28 Thread Daniel Woods

 Granted, gphoto2 is only 70k, libgphoto2 only 515k and efax is only some
 200k in size - but this adds up!

Not just that, but from a security point of view, the less stuff installed,
the less chance of being r00ted.  After all, if a vulnerability is later
found in a package you don't even use, a local or remote exploit won't
make you a happy camper.  However, a reported vulnerability for a package
you do NOT have installed can simply be ignored by you.

Thanks... Dan.






Re: [Cooker] Too many unneeded packages

2001-08-28 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »Daniel Woods« am 2001-08-28 um 22:53:17 -0600 :
 make you a happy camper.  However, a reported vulnerability for a package
 you do NOT have installed can simply be ignored by you.

Yep, exactly.  I'd like to see *MUCH* more smaller packages.  Maybe like
in Debian.  For example, in Woody (or was it Sid?), you can even install
konqueror seperately!  No need for the whole of KDE if all you want is
Konqueror as a browser/file manager.  That would be good!

Alexander Skwar
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