Re: [Cooker] We want ext3 in cooker...
"Ian C. Sison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You mean the patches of both reiser and ext3 clash when applied to the > kernel? holé Miss yolanda this player has win a beer. -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org --Chmouel
Re: [Cooker] We want ext3 in cooker...
On 8 Nov 2000, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > Meir Faraj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > so people who want to install ext3 fs could not use others fs (for testing > > purpose for example);-(( . > > but it's better than now ;-> > > i believe that ext2 will always be here :-), but make reiserfs and > ext3 playing together is not really in my short project term. > You mean the patches of both reiser and ext3 clash when applied to the kernel?
Re: [Cooker] We want ext3 in cooker...
Meir Faraj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > so people who want to install ext3 fs could not use others fs (for testing > purpose for example);-(( . > but it's better than now ;-> i believe that ext2 will always be here :-), but make reiserfs and ext3 playing together is not really in my short project term. -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org --Chmouel
Re: [Cooker] We want ext3 in cooker...
On Wednesday 08 November 2000 04:05, you wrote: > Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I don't wanna sound rude, but Pixel (?) once said, that it is too > > humm that's should be me : > > (chmou@matrix)[~]-% rpm -q --changelog kernel|grep -c pixel > 0 > (chmou@matrix)[~]-% rpm -q --changelog kernel|grep -c chmouel > 94 > > > troublesome for him to maintain yet another set of kernels (which at > > least I can very well understand). So, if you really want ext3, write a > > kernel spec file that features ext3. Maybe this will make him change his > > mind. > > No, *I* am not gonna write one, because I don't care about ext3 (I'm > > using reiserfs). > > writing a spec file who don't enable by default ext3 is easy add a > kernel with ext3 is doable (but ugly) make a cohabitation of ext3 and > reiserfs is not adviced (name conflict and not tested). So the > solution would be : > > wait for kernel24 and put as default a new journalising fs (xfs come > in my mind) > make a special ext3 kernel so people who want to install ext3 fs could not use others fs (for testing purpose for example);-(( . but it's better than now ;->
Re: [Cooker] We want ext3 in cooker...
Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't wanna sound rude, but Pixel (?) once said, that it is too humm that's should be me : (chmou@matrix)[~]-% rpm -q --changelog kernel|grep -c pixel 0 (chmou@matrix)[~]-% rpm -q --changelog kernel|grep -c chmouel 94 > troublesome for him to maintain yet another set of kernels (which at least I > can very well understand). So, if you really want ext3, write a kernel spec file > that features ext3. Maybe this will make him change his mind. > No, *I* am not gonna write one, because I don't care about ext3 (I'm using > reiserfs). writing a spec file who don't enable by default ext3 is easy add a kernel with ext3 is doable (but ugly) make a cohabitation of ext3 and reiserfs is not adviced (name conflict and not tested). So the solution would be : wait for kernel24 and put as default a new journalising fs (xfs come in my mind) make a special ext3 kernel -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org --Chmouel
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Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I don't wanna sound rude, but Pixel (?) once said, that it is too > > let's say ``Chmouel''... or i believe that someday Pixel will want to take care of the kernel ;) -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org --Chmouel
Re: [Cooker] We want ext3 in cooker...
On Tuesday 07 November 2000 19:26, you wrote: > So sprach Meir Faraj am Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 03:16:28AM +0200: > > the journalization so don't need (like reizerfs) a fsck check . > > reiserfs also doesn't need a fsck check! > > Alexander Skwar I now but we could convert a ext2-> 3 not to reiserfs
Re: [Cooker] We want ext3 in cooker...
So sprach Meir Faraj am Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 03:16:28AM +0200: > the journalization so don't need (like reizerfs) a fsck check . reiserfs also doesn't need a fsck check! Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.dp.ath.cx Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
Re: [Cooker] We want ext3 in cooker...
On Tuesday 07 November 2000 01:01, you wrote: > John Cavan wrote: > > "Brian J. Murrell" wrote: > >> I suppose also when you need medical help you won't be doing it in any > >> hospital that is or has portions of it named after it's benefactors, > >> right? > > > > Nobody has complained about the use of the Red Hat Package Manager... > > I volunteer! Why can't Mandrake use apt-get? Or better still write > their own package format? don't think is a good idea . the rpm package is correct . the thing we want is the ext3fs since is compatible with the ext2 and have the journalization so don't need (like reizerfs) a fsck check .
Re: [Cooker] We want ext3 in cooker...
John Cavan wrote: > "Brian J. Murrell" wrote: >> I suppose also when you need medical help you won't be doing it in any >> hospital that is or has portions of it named after it's benefactors, >> right? > Nobody has complained about the use of the Red Hat Package Manager... I volunteer! Why can't Mandrake use apt-get? Or better still write their own package format? -- There is one very very important thing one must realize before even attempting to use vi: there are two "modes." Don't ask why. "Why" is the question the programmers want you to ask; don't give in to the temptation. -- David Packer
Re: [Cooker] We want ext3 in cooker...
Jason Straight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > reiser choked on my 200gb raid 0 3 times in 2 days, switched to ext2 and it's > 100% stable now, also reiser seems to not support quota nor file attributes > with chattr. not a big surprise. man chattr gives: chattr - change file attributes on a Linux second extended file system -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
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So sprach Burkhard Zombronner am Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 11:14:25PM +0100: > machine I see the line: sponsored by suse labs??? My machine, my mandrake That's right. SuSE sponsored some part of the development of reiserfs. As did mp3.com Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.dp.ath.cx Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
Re: [Cooker] We want ext3 in cooker...
So sprach Jason Straight am Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 10:07:40PM -0500: > 100% stable now, also reiser seems to not support quota nor file attributes That's true, and someone already wrote this hear in the list. PS: Quoting.. Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.dp.ath.cx Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
Re: [Cooker] We want ext3 in cooker...
On Mon, 06 Nov 2000, Jason Straight wrote: > reiser choked on my 200gb raid 0 3 times in 2 days, If that was software RAID, that's a known problem: ReiserFS and software RAID both change part of the kernel, and they don't play nicely together yet. > switched to ext2 and it's 100% stable now, Of course. ext2 isn't journalled, so it doesn't trigger the known problems with the current RAID code. > also reiser seems to not support quota Quota support needs an extra patch, available from the WWW site. > nor file attributes with chattr. Of course not. File attributes are ext2, so ReiserFS isn't supposed to support them. You'll find them missing from NFS, coda and devfs too :) James.
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"Brian J. Murrell" wrote: > > from the quill of chavo valdez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on scroll > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > If you have the source and that really bothers you just edit it out. > > Then recompile the kernel. > > By the way it should be here : > > /usr/src/linux/fs/reiserfs/super.c > > [ this not really directed at you chavo, but rather those whom it > bothers to see "corporate" names on their "free" software ] > > Yeah, and don't expect anybody to fund any cool projects (and reiserfs > is a cool and much needed project) anymore if you deny the funder the > simple right to advertise his generousity. > > I suppose also when you need medical help you won't be doing it in any > hospital that is or has portions of it named after it's benefactors, > right? Nobody has complained about the use of the Red Hat Package Manager... John
Re: [Cooker] We want ext3 in cooker...
reiser choked on my 200gb raid 0 3 times in 2 days, switched to ext2 and it's 100% stable now, also reiser seems to not support quota nor file attributes with chattr. On Sunday 05 November 2000 17:14, you wrote: > Am Sonntag 05 November 2000 22:42 schrieben Sie: > > So sprach Meir Faraj am Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 11:02:04PM +0200: > > > please ;-) > > > > I don't wanna sound rude, but Pixel (?) once said, that it is too > > troublesome for him to maintain yet another set of kernels (which at > > least I can very well understand). So, if you really want ext3, write a > > kernel spec file that features ext3. Maybe this will make him change his > > mind. > > > > No, *I* am not gonna write one, because I don't care about ext3 (I'm > > using reiserfs). > > > > Alexander Skwar > > I also use since 7.1 reiserfs and had no problem at all, but booting my > machine I see the line: sponsored by suse labs??? My machine, my mandrake > sponsored by whom??? > > The only negative point with reiserfs > > regards > > Burkhard Zombronner -- Jason Straight - NMO.net Senior Network Tech Penguinfarm.com - Personal Page http://www.penguinfarm.com/ ICQ 1796276
Re: [Cooker] We want ext3 in cooker...
from the quill of chavo valdez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on scroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > If you have the source and that really bothers you just edit it out. > Then recompile the kernel. > By the way it should be here : > /usr/src/linux/fs/reiserfs/super.c [ this not really directed at you chavo, but rather those whom it bothers to see "corporate" names on their "free" software ] Yeah, and don't expect anybody to fund any cool projects (and reiserfs is a cool and much needed project) anymore if you deny the funder the simple right to advertise his generousity. I suppose also when you need medical help you won't be doing it in any hospital that is or has portions of it named after it's benefactors, right? b. -- Brian J. Murrell
Re: [Cooker] We want ext3 in cooker...
> I also use since 7.1 reiserfs and had no problem at all, but booting my > machine I see the line: sponsored by suse labs??? My machine, my mandrake > > sponsored by whom??? > > The only negative point with reiserfs > If you have the source and that really bothers you just edit it out. Then recompile the kernel. By the way it should be here : /usr/src/linux/fs/reiserfs/super.c chavo
Re: [Cooker] We want ext3 in cooker...
Burkhard Zombronner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am Sonntag 05 November 2000 22:42 schrieben Sie: > > So sprach Meir Faraj am Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 11:02:04PM +0200: > > > please ;-) > > > > I don't wanna sound rude, but Pixel (?) once said, that it is too > > troublesome for him to maintain yet another set of kernels (which at least > > I can very well understand). So, if you really want ext3, write a kernel > > spec file that features ext3. Maybe this will make him change his mind. > > > > No, *I* am not gonna write one, because I don't care about ext3 (I'm using > > reiserfs). > > > > Alexander Skwar > > I also use since 7.1 reiserfs and had no problem at all, but booting my > machine I see the line: sponsored by suse labs??? My machine, my mandrake > sponsored by whom??? > > The only negative point with reiserfs Face it, reiserfs has been sponsored by Suse ;-). -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
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Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So sprach Meir Faraj am Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 11:02:04PM +0200: > > please ;-) > > I don't wanna sound rude, but Pixel (?) once said, that it is too > troublesome for him to maintain yet another set of kernels (which at least I > can very well understand). So, if you really want ext3, write a kernel spec file > that features ext3. Maybe this will make him change his mind. more a Chmouel's problem. -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] We want ext3 in cooker...
On Sun, 05 Nov 2000, Alexander Skwar wrote: > So sprach Meir Faraj am Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 11:02:04PM +0200: > > please ;-) > > I don't wanna sound rude, but Pixel (?) once said, that it is too > troublesome for him to maintain yet another set of kernels (which at least I > can very well understand). So, if you really want ext3, write a kernel spec file > that features ext3. Maybe this will make him change his mind. Nobody is asking for another kernel, just the inclusion of a feature in the current one. In fact, "another" kernel is the LAST thing needed. I don't want to see new features being mutually exclusive, I want one kernel with the features in! James.
Re: [Cooker] We want ext3 in cooker...
Am Sonntag 05 November 2000 22:42 schrieben Sie: > So sprach Meir Faraj am Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 11:02:04PM +0200: > > please ;-) > > I don't wanna sound rude, but Pixel (?) once said, that it is too > troublesome for him to maintain yet another set of kernels (which at least > I can very well understand). So, if you really want ext3, write a kernel > spec file that features ext3. Maybe this will make him change his mind. > > No, *I* am not gonna write one, because I don't care about ext3 (I'm using > reiserfs). > > Alexander Skwar I also use since 7.1 reiserfs and had no problem at all, but booting my machine I see the line: sponsored by suse labs??? My machine, my mandrake sponsored by whom??? The only negative point with reiserfs regards Burkhard Zombronner -- Microsoft is not dead, it just smells funny
Re: [Cooker] We want ext3 in cooker...
Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't wanna sound rude, but Pixel (?) once said, that it is too let's say ``Chmouel''... > troublesome for him to maintain yet another set of kernels (which at least I > can very well understand). So, if you really want ext3, write a kernel spec file > that features ext3. Maybe this will make him change his mind. > > No, *I* am not gonna write one, because I don't care about ext3 (I'm using > reiserfs).
Re: [Cooker] We want ext3 in cooker...
So sprach Meir Faraj am Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 11:02:04PM +0200: > please ;-) I don't wanna sound rude, but Pixel (?) once said, that it is too troublesome for him to maintain yet another set of kernels (which at least I can very well understand). So, if you really want ext3, write a kernel spec file that features ext3. Maybe this will make him change his mind. No, *I* am not gonna write one, because I don't care about ext3 (I'm using reiserfs). Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.dp.ath.cx Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
Re: [Cooker] We want ext3 in cooker...
On Sunday 05 November 2000 21:10, you wrote: > To Mandrake and others... > > Can you put ext3 in cooker, so we can test if it is a viable option. > > rpmfind.net runs ext3 for more than a year, so it should be stable > enough... And the other only way to find out is to propose it in cooker... > > Cheers. yep , I want also to convert some of my ext2 to ext3 since it bacward compatible. it will be great to contribute this new ext fs ;-) please ;-)
