Re: [Cooker] Win4Lin kernel patches
Hoyt wrote: > > On Wednesday 29 November 2000 01:49 am, you wrote: > > > > > Right now that 's what has kept me from trying Win4Lin. I have a nicely > > running system and won't do a whole lot to it until Mandrake has a 2.4 > > based distro ( yes my main box is still at 7.1 ) > > > > Then they provide a patched Mandrake 7.1 kernel all ready for you to use and > a demo version (time limited) to try out. > I'm SMP... -randy
Re: [Cooker] Win4Lin kernel patches (was: running IE 5)
Jim Bradley wrote: > I think that you are the one with the misperception. I think that Randy wants > the newest and greatest Mandrake kernel, and to do that you have to build your Randy explicitly stated that he was running 7.1. > having to use Win4Lin's Mandrake kernel (or other), which is a 2.2.16 (or > 2.2.15) version. 7.1 uses 2.2.15 Cheers --- Larry
Re: [Cooker] Win4Lin kernel patches (was: running IE 5)
** Reply to message from Larry Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Wed, 29 Nov 2000 08:02:57 -0500 > Randy, it seems that some misperception is being distributed that you > need to build kernels and such to run win4lin. That's simply not the > case, though there is no sitting kernel that works with it and v7.2. > But for 7.1 you don't need to do any kernel patching or rebuilding. I think that you are the one with the misperception. I think that Randy wants the newest and greatest Mandrake kernel, and to do that you have to build your own. It would be nice if the hooks were already there in Mandrake, rather than having to use Win4Lin's Mandrake kernel (or other), which is a 2.2.16 (or 2.2.15) version. Jim Bradley -- Maryville, MO USA ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [Cooker] Win4Lin kernel patches (was: running IE 5)
> Right now that 's what has kept me from trying Win4Lin. I have a nicely > running system and won't do a whole lot to it until Mandrake has a 2.4 > based distro ( yes my main box is still at 7.1 ) Randy, it seems that some misperception is being distributed that you need to build kernels and such to run win4lin. That's simply not the case, though there is no sitting kernel that works with it and v7.2. But for 7.1 you don't need to do any kernel patching or rebuilding. When you install it, win4lin sets up a SECOND kernel and sets it on your lilo menu. Mine's now set as the default and I could probably eliminate the old one but this kernel works without any patching or manipulation other than using rpm to extract it. > Perhaps Netraverse would like to have something a little more plug and > play... If these guys have a weakness it is in their marketing. While everyone else seems more interested in marketing than anything else, the Win4lin folks don't seem to have a clue how much damage they're doing to their product image by not evaluating their evalution package to install with things like Mandrake 7.2. The dumb thing is that they have the 2.2.17 patch available for those who DO want to build the stuff but they haven't actually used it themselves in making their evaluation copy :-( I run 7.1 so this isn't an issue for me but they really do need to get their act together in that regard. Cheers --- Larry
Re: [Cooker] Win4Lin kernel patches
On Wednesday 29 November 2000 01:49 am, you wrote: > > Right now that 's what has kept me from trying Win4Lin. I have a nicely > running system and won't do a whole lot to it until Mandrake has a 2.4 > based distro ( yes my main box is still at 7.1 ) > Then they provide a patched Mandrake 7.1 kernel all ready for you to use and a demo version (time limited) to try out. -- Hoyt
Re: [Cooker] Win4Lin kernel patches (was: running IE 5)
> > > IIRC, they are similar to the kernel hooks already added to support VMware, > so there _should_ be no ideological issues here. > There are no special 'VMware' hooks in Mandrake. VMware has modules they load into the kernel. No re-compile of the kernel source required. Since running running Mandrake I haven't had to ( or really wanted to ) re-compile the kernel from source. And yes I used to do it all the time. Right now that 's what has kept me from trying Win4Lin. I have a nicely running system and won't do a whole lot to it until Mandrake has a 2.4 based distro ( yes my main box is still at 7.1 ) > According to the feedback I got from Trelos (now Netraverse), the Mandrake > folks just don't want to consider it. If true, that's unfortunate. > Perhaps Netraverse would like to have something a little more plug and play... -randy
Re: [Cooker] Win4Lin kernel patches (was: running IE 5)
- Original Message - From: "Leon Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 8:32 AM Subject: [Cooker] Win4Lin kernel patches (was: running IE 5) > "Raymond S. Swaim" wrote: > > >> It would be nice for Mandrake to provide Win4Lin support "out-of-the-box". > > > I second that motion. ;-) > > And I third it! > > . . . the Win4Lin > changes are small. I think Mandrake's sales staff would go for it (pump up the > volume), and there is no direct compromise of the distribution's open-ness. It > would help Mandrake penetration into the business market if you could install > the distro, download the Win4Lin userland apps and be running everything in the > office from your Mandrake box within minutes. > IIRC, they are similar to the kernel hooks already added to support VMware, so there _should_ be no ideological issues here. According to the feedback I got from Trelos (now Netraverse), the Mandrake folks just don't want to consider it. If true, that's unfortunate. I would ask that they re-consider. I am very impressed with 7.2's ability to install, detect hardware and implement a slick desktop suitable for a business workstation. Clearly one of the leaders in the field. The inclusion of Win4Lin support would only make the distro more desireable. Hoyt
