Re: [Cooker] drakx/diskdrake and NTFS

2001-09-30 Thread civileme

On Sunday 30 September 2001 14:37, Frederik Himpe wrote:
 Hello,

 One thing that I noticed in the Mandrake 8.1 installer, is that it does
 not mount NTFS partitions by default. I think this should be done by
 default, as is done for FAT32 partitions.

 When you explicitely mount the NTFS partitions yourself in the Mandrake
 installer, the partitions are only accessible as root, as user you get
 Permission denied. I think this should be changed too, or at least,
 there should be an option in diskdrake where you can easily choose to
 make them accessible to all users or root only.


Does no one realize that there are THREE variations of the NTFS and that one 
of them is readable (and experimentally writeable) by linux, and more work on 
read/write for the newer two is likely to be stalled by threats or the 
potential for threats of legal action?

Microsoft is not going to give us a chance to take their market away, not 
that we are really trying.  We're about choices, but we are being blocked 
from staying compatible by Microsoft paranoia.

Civileme

 I think these options would be very interesting, considering that more
 and more new Linux users will have NTFS partitions in the future.

 Frederik Himpe




Re: [Cooker] drakx/diskdrake and NTFS

2001-09-30 Thread Mike Tracy Holt

civileme wrote:


Does no one realize that there are THREE variations of the NTFS and that one 
of them is readable (and experimentally writeable) by linux, and more work on 
read/write for the newer two is likely to be stalled by threats or the 
potential for threats of legal action?

Microsoft is not going to give us a chance to take their market away, not 
that we are really trying.  We're about choices, but we are being blocked 
from staying compatible by Microsoft paranoia.

Civileme

Civilme, really, not EVERYTHING done by m$ is based on trying to 
sabotage the rest of the market (just MOST of the things ; ) )
Anyway, I was under the impression that there are only two versions of 
NTFS (4 and 5); unless of course you're talking about the first attempts 
at it, in which case I don't think that would apply to anyone here 
anyway.  The newer version 5 supports the endless amount of redundant 
security options that can be placed on a file within that system.  
I have recently finished beta testing XP (that thing is nothing more 
than a freakin' virus with pretty graphics!!) and I'm pretty sure that 
the NTFS it uses has been updated to support their new licensing format 
but that hasn't been released to the general public yet.
Which version is supported under linux (read / experimental write)?

Mike






Re: [Cooker] drakx/diskdrake and NTFS

2001-09-30 Thread andre

On zo, 2001-09-30 at 22:59, Mike  Tracy Holt wrote:
 civileme wrote:
 
 
 Does no one realize that there are THREE variations of the NTFS and that one 
 of them is readable (and experimentally writeable) by linux, and more work on 
 read/write for the newer two is likely to be stalled by threats or the 
 potential for threats of legal action?
 
 Microsoft is not going to give us a chance to take their market away, not 
 that we are really trying.  We're about choices, but we are being blocked 
 from staying compatible by Microsoft paranoia.
 
 Civileme
 
 Civilme, really, not EVERYTHING done by m$ is based on trying to 
 sabotage the rest of the market (just MOST of the things ; ) )
 Anyway, I was under the impression that there are only two versions of 
 NTFS (4 and 5); unless of course you're talking about the first attempts 
 at it, in which case I don't think that would apply to anyone here 
 anyway.  The newer version 5 supports the endless amount of redundant 
 security options that can be placed on a file within that system.  
 I have recently finished beta testing XP (that thing is nothing more 
 than a freakin' virus with pretty graphics!!) and I'm pretty sure that 
 the NTFS it uses has been updated to support their new licensing format 
 but that hasn't been released to the general public yet.
 Which version is supported under linux (read / experimental write)?
 
 Mike
 
 
Win2K
the nt version was almost finished when they released Win2K




Re: [Cooker] drakx/diskdrake and NTFS

2001-09-30 Thread Mike Tracy Holt

andre wrote:

On zo, 2001-09-30 at 22:59, Mike  Tracy Holt wrote:

civileme wrote:

Does no one realize that there are THREE variations of the NTFS and that one 
of them is readable (and experimentally writeable) by linux, and more work on 
read/write for the newer two is likely to be stalled by threats or the 
potential for threats of legal action?

Microsoft is not going to give us a chance to take their market away, not 
that we are really trying.  We're about choices, but we are being blocked 

from staying compatible by Microsoft paranoia.

Civileme

Civilme, really, not EVERYTHING done by m$ is based on trying to 
sabotage the rest of the market (just MOST of the things ; ) )
Anyway, I was under the impression that there are only two versions of 
NTFS (4 and 5); unless of course you're talking about the first attempts 
at it, in which case I don't think that would apply to anyone here 
anyway.  The newer version 5 supports the endless amount of redundant 
security options that can be placed on a file within that system.  
I have recently finished beta testing XP (that thing is nothing more 
than a freakin' virus with pretty graphics!!) and I'm pretty sure that 
the NTFS it uses has been updated to support their new licensing format 
but that hasn't been released to the general public yet.
Which version is supported under linux (read / experimental write)?

Mike


Win2K
the nt version was almost finished when they released Win2K



Are you saying that the version supported is Win2k?  If that's the case, 
then I can't see any complaints.  I've been keeping a 5GB fat 32 
partition on my drive in case reading / writing to win2k were dangerous, 
but if I can move to just two operating systems on my main computer, 
that would be great!  How experimental is writing to Win2k?  If linux 
touches my Win2k partition will it kill it?  Win2k is touchy enough 
without outside influence g
Mike