Re: [Cooker] drakxtool improvment suggestion

2001-03-06 Thread Guillaume Rousse


On 2001.03.05 19:06:16 +0400 Pixel wrote:
 Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  All drakxtools are stateless, they always start with no configuration
  defined, making very difficult to adjust a running configuration. You
 have
  to remember exactly what you entered last time, which is rather easy
 for
  mouse setting, but far less for X configuration :-)
  Capacity to read present configuration, either from plain configuration
  files, or from specific tool file, would be a great improvement.
 
 they do read existing config files. The problem is what to keep.
XFdrake should at least retain monitor and graphic card type, as the lists
are rather long, and uneasy to scroll in console mode. MouseDrake should
retain mouse type. Etc... Where is the problem ?
-- 
Guillaume Rousse

Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will.
O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist.




Re: [Cooker] drakxtool improvment suggestion

2001-03-06 Thread Pixel

Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 XFdrake should at least retain monitor and graphic card type, as the lists
 are rather long, and uneasy to scroll in console mode. MouseDrake should
 retain mouse type. Etc... Where is the problem ?

for complicated config files, you can't verify easily if the config will work,
or at least has a chance to work. Aka, it will keep broken stuff. For
mousedrake, there's no pb :)




RE: [Cooker] drakxtool improvment suggestion

2001-03-06 Thread Andrej Borsenkow


 Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  XFdrake should at least retain monitor and graphic card type, as the lists
  are rather long, and uneasy to scroll in console mode. MouseDrake should
  retain mouse type. Etc... Where is the problem ?

 for complicated config files, you can't verify easily if the config
 will work,
 or at least has a chance to work. Aka, it will keep broken stuff. For
 mousedrake, there's no pb :)


If user was consistently using tools, config file is parseable. If user
handedited it, at least display a warning that config could not be parsed and
is set to default. Currently it is (exactly in case of XFdrake/drakmouse) too
easy to ruin your configuration beyond ability to run tools again to correct
it :-(

-andrej





Re: [Cooker] drakxtool improvment suggestion

2001-03-05 Thread Michael Brown

On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
 All drakxtools are stateless, they always start with no configuration
 defined, making very difficult to adjust a running configuration. You have
 to remember exactly what you entered last time, which is rather easy for
 mouse setting, but far less for X configuration :-)
 Capacity to read present configuration, either from plain configuration
 files, or from specific tool file, would be a great improvement.

Definitely not from a specific tool file - this would cause hand-edited
changes to the config files to be lost when the drakxtools were used.

Michael





Re: [Cooker] drakxtool improvment suggestion

2001-03-05 Thread Armisis Aieoln

On Monday 05 March 2001 09:26, you wrote:
 On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
  All drakxtools are stateless, they always start with no configuration
  defined, making very difficult to adjust a running configuration. You
  have to remember exactly what you entered last time, which is rather easy
  for mouse setting, but far less for X configuration :-)
  Capacity to read present configuration, either from plain configuration
  files, or from specific tool file, would be a great improvement.

 Definitely not from a specific tool file - this would cause hand-edited
 changes to the config files to be lost when the drakxtools were used.

 Michael

If drakxtools used the same configuration scripts which linuxconfig uses it 
would be alot easier wouldent it?
(please dont forget to add CHAP support for any connection to ISP's (ISDN too)
GRIN

thanks

dave




Re: [Cooker] drakxtool improvment suggestion

2001-03-05 Thread Andrej Borsenkow

On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Michael Brown wrote:

 On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
  All drakxtools are stateless, they always start with no configuration
  defined, making very difficult to adjust a running configuration. You have
  to remember exactly what you entered last time, which is rather easy for
  mouse setting, but far less for X configuration :-)
  Capacity to read present configuration, either from plain configuration
  files, or from specific tool file, would be a great improvement.

 Definitely not from a specific tool file - this would cause hand-edited
 changes to the config files to be lost when the drakxtools were used.

 Michael


Every tool must analyze current configuration and start with it. In no way
should specific file be used. I know at least one such case, when system
configuration tool used own database (that was supposed to be synced to
real configuration) - it was real pain in the ...

-andrej