Re: [Cooker] more good news for Mandrake

2003-10-03 Thread Buchan Milne
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Adam Williamson wrote:
 A big pat on the back for fpons:

 http://lwn.net/Articles/49967/

 To conclude this lengthy and time consuming experiment involving
 package installations and distribution upgrades, we have two clear
 winners - Debian and Mandrake.

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cookerm=106460255913962w=2

The advantage of subscribing to LWN, fp on cooker ;-)

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Re: [Cooker] more good news for Mandrake

2003-10-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 12:10, Buchan Milne wrote:
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 Adam Williamson wrote:
  A big pat on the back for fpons:
 
  http://lwn.net/Articles/49967/
 
  To conclude this lengthy and time consuming experiment involving
  package installations and distribution upgrades, we have two clear
  winners - Debian and Mandrake.
 
 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cookerm=106460255913962w=2
 
 The advantage of subscribing to LWN, fp on cooker ;-)

Bizarre...I never got that message.

Okay, I'm off to post to the let's stab sympa several thousand times in
the back thread...:D
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Re: [Cooker] more good news for Mandrake

2003-10-03 Thread Eric Fernandez
Adam Williamson wrote:

A big pat on the back for fpons:

http://lwn.net/Articles/49967/

To conclude this lengthy and time consuming experiment involving
package installations and distribution upgrades, we have two clear
winners - Debian and Mandrake.
 

Yes, and what they consider a disadvantage (the fact that the kernel has 
to be upgraded separately) is imo an advantage.
A question : under Debian : there is no equivalent of urpmi.update -a ? 
Media update is automatic ?

Eric




Re: [Cooker] more good news for Mandrake

2003-10-03 Thread Buchan Milne
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Eric Fernandez wrote:
 Adam Williamson wrote:

 A big pat on the back for fpons:

 http://lwn.net/Articles/49967/

 To conclude this lengthy and time consuming experiment involving
 package installations and distribution upgrades, we have two clear
 winners - Debian and Mandrake.


 Yes, and what they consider a disadvantage (the fact that the kernel has
 to be upgraded separately) is imo an advantage.

IMHO, the article wasn't totally comprehensive or fair, but this is
quite difficult to do, as you need to know each distro quite well.

AFAIK, in Debian the kernel must be updated seperately too, but by
default the Debian people don't tell you to do that on a dist-upgrade.

 A question : under Debian : there is no equivalent of urpmi.update -a ?
 Media update is automatic ?

Apparently, updating the sources was done earlier before installing
mplayer, and I don't think this was taken into account in the points anyway.

In other words, the only thing urpmi lost points for was irrelevant (the
apt dist-upgrade did not upgrade the kernel, so urpmi should not lose
anything for an extra command to update the kernel).

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] more good news for Mandrake

2003-10-03 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Freitag, 3. Oktober 2003 13:32 schrieb Eric Fernandez:
 Adam Williamson wrote:
 A big pat on the back for fpons:
 
 http://lwn.net/Articles/49967/
 
 To conclude this lengthy and time consuming experiment involving
 package installations and distribution upgrades, we have two clear
 winners - Debian and Mandrake.

 Yes, and what they consider a disadvantage (the fact that the kernel
 has to be upgraded separately) is imo an advantage.
 A question : under Debian : there is no equivalent of urpmi.update -a
 ? Media update is automatic ?

 Eric

From what i have read in the comments, the kernel wasn't updated on 
debian and a apt-get update before upgrading is needed as well. 



Re: [Cooker] more good news for Mandrake

2003-10-03 Thread Franois Pons
Adam Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Bizarre...I never got that message.
 
 Okay, I'm off to post to the let's stab sympa several thousand times in
 the back thread...:D

I saw it last week, my (perl) filters are working correctly, talk about me or
urpmi and I will see it more easily...

François.