Re: crypto stuff on 2nd cd ; was: [Cooker] GET READY FOR ADISCUSSION- Include the contents ofthe mandrakeusr.org sit on thesecond CD
> Ok, > I can understand the download to avoid royalty fees, but that is a very > large download for one program. It's a bloated peice of software... what do you expect?? (still not as bad as MSFT Office 2000) > Last time i downloaded SO 5.2B it was around 70M...and of course it was > not on a mirror so even on a cable modem it took forever. See, i've got a cable modem for 2 years now, and here in the netherlands it's slowly turning into a comodity. More and more people are having the choice of getting on the net this way. For these people (and others at companies or places where they have high-speed links) this way of software distribution is becoming a viable option. When you're still (suffering) with a telco modem, then it's probably better to buy the boxed kit. > If I go out and spend 50-100$ for an distribution, I expect it to > have all > the latest stable versions, and not have to download programs like SO. The powerpack edition should have most of this software... or not? (the last one I got was Mandrake's 6.1 powerpack). If mandrake decides to make something as I described in my previous mail, this could turn out to kill revenue from the powerpack distro. Stefan > Bryan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Stefan van der Eijk > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2000 1:18 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: crypto stuff on 2nd cd ; was: [Cooker] GET READY FOR A > DISCUSSION- Include the contents ofthe mandrakeusr.org sit on the second > CD > > > > How about including Star office 5.X on it? That is a free program, but > > > not sure if Sun would agree to it. > > > This is not really free [for example, we pay royalties for each printed > > CD]. > Fair, that's the way it is... > > > For the moment our politics are to limit as much as possible the amount of > > non open-source stuff on main installation CD [which is, now, CD > > Installation and CD Extension] > OK, what however could be provided is some kind of "rpm-wrapper" for > these > "closed software" programs. Maybe some kind of mechanism can be made > which > performs the following tasks: > > - An icon show up in a "to be installed closed software menu" > - When you click the icon, the software will be downloaded from the > software makers site ($un Micro$y$tem$ in this case) and an RPM > will be made & installed. > - Key is that the rpm which is made is "taylored" for mandrake. Which > means that the menu items are in place, the files are placed in a > work-able > place on the disk (according to the FS standards that mandrake lives > to), > etc. etc. etc. > > Goal of this mechanism will be: > - Not needing to distribute this software with the CD's (royalties) > - User performs "task" (one mouse-click) to download & install the > software. > - User is provided with the "comfort" of a Mandrake packaged RPM. > - Updates of new "closed software" packages (acroread, staroffice, > WP??) can be provided with this mechanism. > > I know it goes far... > > Stefan van der Eijk
Re: crypto stuff on 2nd cd ; was: [Cooker] GET READY FOR ADISCUSSION- Include the contents ofthe mandrakeusr.org sit on thesecond CD
On Sat, May 27, 2000 at 12:54:30AM +0200, Gael Duval wrote: > Daniel Hammer a écrit : > > > > BS''D > > > > Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > > For the moment our politics are to limit as much as possible the amount of > > > non open-source stuff on main installation CD [which is, now, CD > > > Installation and CD Extension] > > > > ... which is a very good decision > > ...and as soon as we have good replacements for proprietary, we can > have a 100% true-open source system! I've promised it to RMS and you > know him: he won't forget such a thing ;) > > By the way, what is all your opinion about xv? do you use it often? > what do you use for fast-viewing pictures? (I don't mean processing it > with Gimp for example) > There are many replacements for xv around there (ee, qiv, gview, display, etc.). And AFAIK, xv is still a shareware. We really should think about taking it off our distribution (at least from the GPL CDs). DindinX -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] HF Team
Re: crypto stuff on 2nd cd ; was: [Cooker] GET READY FOR ADISCUSSION- Include the contents ofthe mandrakeusr.org sit on thesecond CD
On Sat, May 27, 2000 at 09:03:16AM +0930, Allen Bolderoff wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > By the way, what is all your opinion about xv? do you use it often? > > what do you use for fast-viewing pictures? (I don't mean processing it > > with Gimp for example) > > I use ee for fast viewing pictures > > I use gqview to see thumbnail catalog style > > I have not used xv since redhat 4.2 or thereabouts. there's another nice one for quick viewing pics: called "feh", using imlib2. cli interface. very fast. feh should be listed on freshmeat. imlib2 is available via cvs, enlightenment.org :wq -cteg -- damn i'm looking good
Re: crypto stuff on 2nd cd ; was: [Cooker] GET READY FOR ADISCUSSION- Include the contents ofthe mandrakeusr.org sit on thesecond CD
On Sat, May 27, 2000 at 12:54:30AM +0200, Gael Duval wrote: > Daniel Hammer a écrit : > By the way, what is all your opinion about xv? do you use it often? > what do you use for fast-viewing pictures? (I don't mean processing it > with Gimp for example) I use feh with imlib2 > Gael. > -- > < Gael DUVAL http://www.mandrake.com > > -- Thomas Poindessous EpX asso GNU/Linux de l'Epita [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.epita.fr/~epx
Re: crypto stuff on 2nd cd ; was: [Cooker] GET READY FOR ADISCUSSION- Include the contents ofthe mandrakeusr.org sit on thesecond CD
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > By the way, what is all your opinion about xv? do you use it often? > what do you use for fast-viewing pictures? (I don't mean processing it > with Gimp for example) I use ee for fast viewing pictures I use gqview to see thumbnail catalog style I have not used xv since redhat 4.2 or thereabouts. -- +++ Allen Bolderoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> LNC - Linux, help and commentary http://linux.netnerve.com CTPC - Caffeine - get it here: http://www.coffee-tea-pots-cups.com/ +++ GPG fingerprint = CBB0 8626 702C 3D01 B5AD A54A DC2C 93B7 3E4B 6472 +++
Re: crypto stuff on 2nd cd ; was: [Cooker] GET READY FOR ADISCUSSION- Include the contents ofthe mandrakeusr.org sit on thesecond CD
Daniel Hammer a écrit : > > BS''D > > Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > For the moment our politics are to limit as much as possible the amount of > > non open-source stuff on main installation CD [which is, now, CD > > Installation and CD Extension] > > ... which is a very good decision ...and as soon as we have good replacements for proprietary, we can have a 100% true-open source system! I've promised it to RMS and you know him: he won't forget such a thing ;) By the way, what is all your opinion about xv? do you use it often? what do you use for fast-viewing pictures? (I don't mean processing it with Gimp for example) Gael. -- < Gael DUVAL http://www.mandrake.com >
