Re: [Cooker-firewall] SNF in lm 9.0
bascule [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hi, my point is that the 8.2 release of lm does not come with the version of mnf that will be in the iso, right? the iso version is later than that surely, even if it is based on 8.2? so i was wondering whether the mnf packages in lm9.0 will be the same as the iso or later, i intend to buy a mandrake product, if the 9.0 comes with an uptodate, stable mnf i will get that and install it the harder way, and have the latest lm, but if the iso mnf will be more reliable then i will get that instead, i 'm not sure to what extent the smallest possible install of 9.0 would differ from 8.2 except in package versions, if mnf will not be in the 9.0 tree upon release then i will have to archive a recent cooker set while i decide whether to purchase the iso or not :-) all these firewall packages can be found on cooker as the 9.0 Mandrake Linux distro. They do not belong to the main distro but they will be in another one , based on the 9.0 Mandrake Linux and will be called MNF. This will be different iso. The status of the MNF iso was not decided yet. The iso might be free for download or not ... nobody knows yet :o) -- Florin http://www.mandrakesoft.com http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~florin/
RE: [Cooker-firewall] SNF in lm 9.0
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Marcel van Groenigen wrote: + Could we have a voting option for this in the mandrake club ? Hm. What do you have in mind? ISO image only for club members? -- - Dr. Denis Havlik http://MandrakeForum.com Mandrakesoft ||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) --oOO--(_)--OOo- Our housekeeper doesn't do Windows and neither do WE! (L.P. Santuro)
RE: [Cooker-firewall] SNF in lm 9.0
No the idea was that I would like some option to direct some of the money payed for the membership to this project. (But no complaints from here if you make it available for members) -Original Message- From: cooker-firewall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: vrijdag 20 september 2002 15:08 To: cooker-firewall Subject: RE: [Cooker-firewall] SNF in lm 9.0 On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Marcel van Groenigen wrote: + Could we have a voting option for this in the mandrake club ? Hm. What do you have in mind? ISO image only for club members? -- - Dr. Denis Havlik http://MandrakeForum.com Mandrakesoft ||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) --oOO--(_)--OOo- Our housekeeper doesn't do Windows and neither do WE! (L.P. Santuro)
Re: [Cooker-firewall] SNF in lm 9.0
Marcel van Groenigen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No the idea was that I would like some option to direct some of the money payed for the membership to this project. (But no complaints from here if you make it available for members) my swiss bank account n° is ... ;o) (only a silly joke) -- Florin http://www.mandrakesoft.com http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~florin/
Re: [Cooker-firewall] SNF in lm 9.0
On Friday 20 September 2002 06:36 am, Florin wrote: Marcel van Groenigen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No the idea was that I would like some option to direct some of the money payed for the membership to this project. (But no complaints from here if you make it available for members) my swiss bank account n° is ... ;o) (only a silly joke) Is snf still in cooker for releas in 9.0? Also will mnf use ipchains and allow for dmz and what not? -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker-firewall] SNF in lm 9.0
Could we have a voting option for this in the mandrake club ? Not sure a poll is necessary :-) Would you like more free stuff available online ? [ ] yes [ ] No I may have an idea of the result of the poll :-) Amaury
Re: [Cooker-firewall] SNF in lm 9.0
Is snf still in cooker for releas in 9.0? Also will mnf use ipchains and allow for dmz and what not? MNF is the new version of the SNF. MNF uses kernel 2.4 with iptables. MNF can manage DMZ SNF is no longer developped : only security patches and such. Hope this make things clearer... Amaury
RE: [Cooker-firewall] SNF in lm 9.0
No still not what I mean. Wat projects should be sponsered the most by ClubMandrake [ ] Cooker [ ] RPM apps [ ] HardDrake [ ] DrakX [ ] DiskDrake [ ] I18n [ ] CVS [ ] Prelude [ ] Bastille Linux [ ] MNF This might give some less predictable results ;) -Original Message- From: cooker-firewall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: vrijdag 20 september 2002 16:38 To: cooker-firewall; Marcel van Groenigen Subject: RE: [Cooker-firewall] SNF in lm 9.0 Could we have a voting option for this in the mandrake club ? Not sure a poll is necessary :-) Would you like more free stuff available online ? [ ] yes [ ] No I may have an idea of the result of the poll :-) Amaury
Re: [Cooker-firewall] SNF in lm 9.0
On Friday 20 September 2002 07:40 am, Amaury Amblard-Ladurantie wrote: Is snf still in cooker for releas in 9.0? Also will mnf use ipchains and allow for dmz and what not? MNF is the new version of the SNF. MNF uses kernel 2.4 with iptables. MNF can manage DMZ SNF is no longer developped : only security patches and such. Hope this make things clearer... Amaury Yes sorry I ment iptables. Thanks for the reply. How soon? -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker-firewall] SNF in lm 9.0
On 20 Sep 2002, Florin wrote: + No the idea was that I would like some option to direct some of the + money payed for the membership to this project. + + (But no complaints from here if you make it available for members) + + my swiss bank account n° is ... ;o) (only a silly joke) + Ah, that's how you plan to start your own company! ,-) -- - Dr. Denis Havlik http://MandrakeForum.com Mandrakesoft ||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) --oOO--(_)--OOo- Our housekeeper doesn't do Windows and neither do WE! (L.P. Santuro)
Re: [Cooker-firewall] SNF in lm 9.0
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Philippe Libat wrote: + I can give you my private account number located in Bahamas ;) Hey, come-on: i have an account in Austria, and I'm sure it woul be happy to get money! ;-) + + More Seriously, check mandrakeexpert site. + http://www.mandrakeexpert.com + + you can paid for direct answer. + + or you can take support incident. OK, let's be serious: I think he's talking about something different: I could in principle let Club members pose their wishlist, either the way we did with languages, or the way we do with RPM-voting system. Thus, one could easily see what our paying customers want us to do, and spend more time actually doing it. Simple money talks principle on its best. That's especially good for such projects as Firewall, and even more so with PPC port, as these projects don't get as much attention as the main distro gets. However, one could use the same principle for anything you can think of and more... cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlik http://MandrakeForum.com Mandrakesoft ||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) --oOO--(_)--OOo- Our housekeeper doesn't do Windows and neither do WE! (L.P. Santuro)
RE: [Cooker-firewall] SNF in lm 9.0
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Marcel van Groenigen wrote: + Wat projects should be sponsered the most by ClubMandrake MandrakeClub. .-) + + [ ] Cooker + [ ] RPM apps + [ ] HardDrake + [ ] DrakX + [ ] DiskDrake + [ ] I18n + [ ] CVS + [ ] Prelude + [ ] Bastille Linux + [ ] MNF + Yes, that's what I thought. But, I'm friend of open voting systems, where users provide their own ideas, instead of being limited to ours. That's how RPM voting works... Problem is: that's unusual concept, so we had to write our own custom software for RPM voting. cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlik http://MandrakeForum.com Mandrakesoft ||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) --oOO--(_)--OOo- Our housekeeper doesn't do Windows and neither do WE! (L.P. Santuro)
Re: [Cooker-firewall] SNF in lm 9.0
hi, my point is that the 8.2 release of lm does not come with the version of mnf that will be in the iso, right? the iso version is later than that surely, even if it is based on 8.2? so i was wondering whether the mnf packages in lm9.0 will be the same as the iso or later, i intend to buy a mandrake product, if the 9.0 comes with an uptodate, stable mnf i will get that and install it the harder way, and have the latest lm, but if the iso mnf will be more reliable then i will get that instead, i 'm not sure to what extent the smallest possible install of 9.0 would differ from 8.2 except in package versions, if mnf will not be in the 9.0 tree upon release then i will have to archive a recent cooker set while i decide whether to purchase the iso or not :-) bascule On Sunday 15 September 2002 11:32 pm, you wrote: will the snf in mandrake 9.0 - when it is finally released - be the same version as released in the iso version, and will it still be called snf? (given that s stands for 'single') Huh ? The ISO of the MNF (Multiple) is based on a Mandrake 8.2. The MNF packages are in Cooker, not in the 9.0 tree (AFAIK)... SNF = 7.2 only MNF = new version (official ISO = 8.2, custom install = 9.0, Cooker, 8.2...) HTH Amaury -- Vampires have risen from the dead, the grave and the crypt, but have never managed it from the cat. (Witches Abroad)
