hd partitioning

2002-03-01 Thread Alan Canovi

Hello all

I buy a new powerbook 667 - 512mb ram - 30gb hd and I want testing Linux Mandrake ppc 
8.2 beta1.

I'm new for Apple and for Linux-ppc.

My problem is hd partitioning:

   1. What is the best partitioning (my idea is 20 gb left for MacOS and 
MacOSX and 10 gb for Linux)?
   2. Yaboot bootstrap partition is requested (and in the first 8 gb)?

Any help/suggestion would be appreciated before I can make same mistake.
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8.2 Beta and 98 Wallstreet PB

2002-03-01 Thread Bob Sams



Here are my experiences with the 8.2 Beta on my PB Wallstreet (98).

I couldn't get the applescript to trigger BootX, even after I read
the cooker thread a couple of times and fooled with the script for a
couple of hours.

So, I put the kernels in a linux kernels folder in the system folder,
both of the All.gz files at the top level of the system folder, and I
copied the atyfb 2.2 text installer settings from the settings folder
and renamed it BootX Settings and put it in the preferences folder.

Launching BootX, I corrected the ramdisk size to 36000, and changed
the video argument to video=atyfb:vmode:14,cmode:32  ( this has
worked well in the other distro's I've used)

I also selected the 2.2 kernel and the all2.2.gz ramdisk in the
options window of BootX settings.

That got me to a readable screen and the text installer.  The
installer worked all the way to the end.

On reboot, I changed the BootX arguments to the hdaXX (XX is the
partition number), selected the 2.2 kernel, and left the only kernel
argument for video just as above.

It booted to graphical login and then to KDE 2.2.2.  However,
networking would not work.

It is possible, but unlikely, that I got an ip wrong.  I, too, found
a couple of kernel failure messages in the boot sequence, but nothing
that hasn't already been mentioned.

I tried to get to networking by logging in in failsafe mode as root.
No keyboard, no nothin'.  Solid freeze requiring hard reset.

KDE looked great while I had it up, but without networking, I gave up.

Overall verdict - getting close.  I recommend tossing the applescript
installer and including a list of directions on how to set BootX
manually.  Also, the failsafe lockup was tough to get around.  If I
try again, I'll select a text login.

Hang in there an thanks for trying to keep us OldWorld Rommers from
being left behind.

Bob Sams




Re: Install/CD Problems... please?

2002-03-01 Thread Arto Leskinen

>On 28 Feb 2002, Nick Texidor wrote:
>
>>  Hi
>>
>>  I have just subscribed to the list after running into a problem last
>>  night.
>>
>>  I attempted to install the 8.2 beta over the top of an already working
>>  8.0 on a G3 Powerbook, with out any joy.
>>
>>  Firstly, I choose to do an upgrade, and while the install was a lot
>>  slower than a normal install it was progressing nicely until it came to
>>  about 30 mins in when I received a message about problems installing
>>  some of the gnome packages.   It was happening with every progressive
>>  package if I choose to skip the package, so I ended up cancelling the
>>  install, and restarting it. 
>>
>
>Update will be a lot slower, as there is a lot more to do than a straigh
>install.  There are known issues with gnome on the beta1, so that may have
>been driving that problem.
>
>>  On the second run through, it got as far as requesting the second CD,
>>  however when I put the second CD in, the installer kept spitting the CD
>>  out and asking me to mount the second CD.
>>
>
>Odd, has anyone else used both CD's to install?

I used both CDs, and one time I got similar error. Can not remember the exact
situation. Once It did the same also for first CD, but this was when everything
was already running. I think it was somehow unable to mount the cd.

Arto Leskinen
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Re: Installer issues

2002-03-01 Thread Stew Benedict


On Sat, 2 Mar 2002, Nick Texidor wrote:

> >> For some reason, when configuring X 4.2, I only get one colour
> depth
> >> option of 65k colours.. I thought that monitor handled 'millions of
> >> colours'.  Also, when I get the X login screen appear, the login box
> >> is not the usual grey, you can't actually see the drop down box to
> >> choose your window manager until you click on it.
> >
> > That's a new one. =(
> 
> Sorry mate!  :^)
> 
> >> I still can't get the modem to respond using kppp.  I have tried all
> >> your earlier suggestions, and still kppp says it can't find the
> modem.
> 
> Definitely can't get the modem working.  I have added the alias serial
> macserial to modules.conf, and the correct message appears  in
> dmesg.
> 
> >> Going back to check the rpm -K suggestion!
> 
> This appeared ok too.  I had no messages.  And I also managed to
> get stuff installing off the CD's using Software Manager...I copied the
> two hdlist files off CD1, and put them in a /mnt/base folder.  I then
> updated the relative pointers in Software manager, and I succesfully
> saw the file sizes of all packages in the lists.  I couldn't see it
> before.  Iguess first question... should the hdlist2.cz be on the second CD??
> Its not on the one I have, but it IS in the base folder on the first CD.
> 

The installer would normally copy both the hdlists to /var/lib/urpmi, so
when you do urpmi some_package, it knows which CD to ask you for.  You can
also setup other repositories.  Software manager uses the same
information, it's just a GUI wrapper around it.

> > OK - what machine do you have again?
> 
> I have a G3 powerbook with twin Firewire's, an airport card etc.
> 
> > Keep 'em coming.  Also, besides the install I'd like any application
> > issues folks are coming across.  x86 is going into freeze soon, and
> at
> > some point soon, any ppc specific application fixes will probably get
> > spun off as a .Xmdk revision.
> 
> hehehe, I'll give you those when I get that far  :^)  I was getting several
> http-perl errors at boot up time too.  libmm wasn't available.
> 
> And I ran into heaps of problems trying to install Gnome.  I know you
> said there were issues in beta 1, and I think I ran into them all... lots of
> packages not on the CD's.
> 
> One other I get when logging into KDE is an error message when
> initialising the sound driver...   'device /dev/dsp can't be opened',  bit
> the start up sound still plays??
> 

Normal - this was in X86 too, at the time these images were made.  I
believe it's been fixed now.

> I'm giving up for the night!!   Would really like to get the modem going if
> you have any other ideas.
> 
> Thanks Stew
> 
> Nick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Installer issues

2002-03-01 Thread Nick Texidor

>> For some reason, when configuring X 4.2, I only get one colour
depth
>> option of 65k colours.. I thought that monitor handled 'millions of
>> colours'.  Also, when I get the X login screen appear, the login box
>> is not the usual grey, you can't actually see the drop down box to
>> choose your window manager until you click on it.
>
> That's a new one. =(

Sorry mate!  :^)

>> I still can't get the modem to respond using kppp.  I have tried all
>> your earlier suggestions, and still kppp says it can't find the
modem.

Definitely can't get the modem working.  I have added the alias serial
macserial to modules.conf, and the correct message appears  in
dmesg.

>> Going back to check the rpm -K suggestion!

This appeared ok too.  I had no messages.  And I also managed to
get stuff installing off the CD's using Software Manager...I copied the
two hdlist files off CD1, and put them in a /mnt/base folder.  I then
updated the relative pointers in Software manager, and I succesfully
saw the file sizes of all packages in the lists.  I couldn't see it
before.  Iguess first question... should the hdlist2.cz be on the second CD??
Its not on the one I have, but it IS in the base folder on the first CD.

> OK - what machine do you have again?

I have a G3 powerbook with twin Firewire's, an airport card etc.

> Keep 'em coming.  Also, besides the install I'd like any application
> issues folks are coming across.  x86 is going into freeze soon, and
at
> some point soon, any ppc specific application fixes will probably get
> spun off as a .Xmdk revision.

hehehe, I'll give you those when I get that far  :^)  I was getting several
http-perl errors at boot up time too.  libmm wasn't available.

And I ran into heaps of problems trying to install Gnome.  I know you
said there were issues in beta 1, and I think I ran into them all... lots of
packages not on the CD's.

One other I get when logging into KDE is an error message when
initialising the sound driver...   'device /dev/dsp can't be opened',  bit
the start up sound still plays??

I'm giving up for the night!!   Would really like to get the modem going if
you have any other ideas.

Thanks Stew

Nick









Re: Installer issues

2002-03-01 Thread Stew Benedict


On 1 Mar 2002, Nick Texidor wrote:

> Interesting
> 
> Ok, I've been back trying to get a little further, and more or less
> followed your details here Stew.
> 
> I chose console tools, KDE, and I think that was pretty much it, and
> this time, I got past the request for the second disk too.  It actually
> mounted and completed the install.
> 
> While rebooting, I still had a few more errors then the 3 you mentioned
> yesterday.  I also had errors with the cardmgr and something else (will
> forward you the messages later if you are interested)
> 

PCMCIA is currently installing on all systems, whether needed or not, so
it may be generating an error.  Also usb-ohci is built into the PPC
kernel, but initscripts tries to load it, which generates a "Fail".
Finaly, there is a syntax error in /etc/modules that is generating a
segfault.  These are the errors I've observed at boot, in addition to the
3 bad modules.

> For some reason, when configuring X 4.2, I only get one colour depth
> option of 65k colours.. I thought that monitor handled 'millions of
> colours'.  Also, when I get the X login screen appear, the login box is
> not the usual grey, you can't actually see the drop down box to choose
> your window manager until you click on it.
> 

That's a new one. =(

> I still can't get the modem to respond using kppp.  I have tried all
> your earlier suggestions, and still kppp says it can't find the modem.
> 
> Going back to check the rpm -K suggestion!
> 

OK - what machine do you have again?

> Stew, do you want me to keep providing all these things I'm coming up
> against?  Is it too much info.. or does it help?
> 

Keep 'em coming.  Also, besides the install I'd like any application
issues folks are coming across.  x86 is going into freeze soon, and at
some point soon, any ppc specific application fixes will probably get spun
off as a .Xmdk revision.

Stew Benedict

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Re: Modem not available on G3 P/B (probably an easy question!)

2002-03-01 Thread Stew Benedict


On 1 Mar 2002, Nick Texidor wrote:

> Hi Stew, 
> 
> > Is the entry:
> > 
> > alias serial macserial in /etc/modules.conf?
> 
> Not unless it was done by the installer.  I haven't done it manually.
> 
> > I think the changes to drakx (installer) between 8.0 and 8.2 don't make
> > this entry now unless you go through the modem setup during install.
> 
> hmmm, I'm pretty sure I did go through the modem setup during install...
> I seem to remember selecting the modem because my Aiport network is
> stuffed at the moment.
> 

I'll double check and do a modem setup in the install myself again.  Maybe
I should setup that alias regardless, as the people that don't want it are
going to be only a few.

> Sorry, it's a bit vague I know.  I will retry again over the next day or
> two and report on any troubles I have.
> 

No PITA - the feedback is good.  That's why we do an open beta like this.

Stew Benedict

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Re: Installer issues

2002-03-01 Thread Stew Benedict


On 1 Mar 2002, Nick Texidor wrote:

> Thanks for the testing Stew.
> 
> So you didn't have any problems mounting the second CD during the
> install?   It just wouldn't mount for me at all.  Is there anything
> about the way the CD's were burnt that could cause the problem?  ie, the
> volume name of the CD?  What else could cause it to simply not mount the
> second CD and to keep asking for it to be inserted?
> 

I burned it in Linux, and all I used was a basic cdrecord command line:

cdrecord -v -speed=4 dev=2,6,0 -eject -data /mnt/cdscratch/some-ISO

The volume name when the ISO is created is made as: Cooker_CD_$n, with
n=1,2,3 etc. but this isn't really checked during the install. the thing
that's looked for is the Mandrake/RPMS$n directory.

Did you happned to install MySQL?  There's a known problem with it, that's
now corrected, that it was tying up CD1, not allowing it to be unmounted.
unless you switch to VT2 and kill the process.

Stew Benedict

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Re: Installer issues

2002-03-01 Thread Nick Texidor

Interesting

Ok, I've been back trying to get a little further, and more or less
followed your details here Stew.

I chose console tools, KDE, and I think that was pretty much it, and
this time, I got past the request for the second disk too.  It actually
mounted and completed the install.

While rebooting, I still had a few more errors then the 3 you mentioned
yesterday.  I also had errors with the cardmgr and something else (will
forward you the messages later if you are interested)

For some reason, when configuring X 4.2, I only get one colour depth
option of 65k colours.. I thought that monitor handled 'millions of
colours'.  Also, when I get the X login screen appear, the login box is
not the usual grey, you can't actually see the drop down box to choose
your window manager until you click on it.

I still can't get the modem to respond using kppp.  I have tried all
your earlier suggestions, and still kppp says it can't find the modem.

Going back to check the rpm -K suggestion!

Stew, do you want me to keep providing all these things I'm coming up
against?  Is it too much info.. or does it help?

Thanks

Nick







On Fri, 2002-03-01 at 14:46, Stew Benedict wrote:
> 
> Just some feedback on recent installer issues.  This is all using the same
> ISO's from beta1 that you all have.
> 
> Platform: iMac Rev2 128MB RAM
> 
> Time Zone selection, recommended install - Mine was defaulted at NY - If I
> pressed the button I get the whole list.
> 
> I did a new install, making sure to select items from CD2 (xfce,
> xscreensaver), and Development Group. About the last 2 minutes of the
> install, after xpdf, it asked me for CD2 and installed the rest of the
> packages. The install stopped once with an error on kdesdk.
> 
> From the console, after boot, as root, I ran urpmi xfishtank, and it
> installed from CD2.
> 
> In X, I ran Control-Center --> Software Manager
> 
> Selected webmin, penguin-command, xmms, pysol, openuniverse
> 
> 2 needed packages missing perl-Authgen-PAM, and libglut
>  webmin had a cpio error and failed (my MD5 sum was bad).
> 
> There was no successive swapping of CD's just 1 request.
> 
> From an xterm, as root, I did
> 
> urpmi kernel-source 
> offered to install libncurses too
> 
> Another cpio error - bad package. 
> 
> ran 
> 
> rpm -K /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPM1/* | grep NOT  
> rpm -K /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPM2/* | grep NOT
> 
> for both CD's and got the following bad packages on my images:
> 
> webmin
> kernel-source
> kdesdk
> aspell-nl
> ntp
> gnuplot
> enlightenment
> 
> If you are experiencing problems with packages, you might want to do the
> same.
> 
> Hope this is of some help.
> Stew Benedict
> 
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