Re: Graphical Install on 1280x854 Powerbook?
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Christian Walther wrote: > >>> Hmm, cat /proc/fb should also be informative. > >> > >> Here: > >> > >> 0 OFfb /pci@f000/ATY,XiaParent@10/ATY, > >> > >> I can't make much sense of this, can you? > >> > > > > Looks like your booting with some video=ofonly arguments or something? > > > >> o An excerpt from dmesg: > >> > >> ... > >> Using unsupported 1280x854 ATY,Xia_A at bc008000, depth=8, pitch=1280 > >> Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 160x53 > >> fb0: Open Firmware frame buffer device on > >> /pci@f000/ATY,XiaParent@10/ATY,Xia_A > >> no framebuffer address found for /pci@f000/ATY,XiaParent@10/ATY,Xia_B > >> ... I guess that indicates the kernel doesn't know about the card, normally you would see that syntax with a "ofonly" or "novideo" boot. You can also verify your boot arguments with: cat /proc/cmdline I've got low-end stuff here, but my experience looking at /proc/fb, when the kernel driver is effective yields something more like: [stew@powerbook stew]$ cat /proc/fb 0 ATY Mach64 Newer kernels from the PPC tree might be more effective for you. > > > > I have a 1280x854 config that was sent to me, which has been added to the > > new installer. Have you tried with no "video=" arguments passed to the > > kernel? > > You were right, there was indeed a video argument (leftover from my earlier > trials), namely "video=radeon:1280x854-8@60". I took that out (the "Kernel > command line" line in dmesg confirms that it was really taken out) , but > that didn't change anything. /proc/fb is still the same, as are the dmesg > lines above. > > -Christian > > Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2
Re: Graphical Install on 1280x854 Powerbook?
>>> Hmm, cat /proc/fb should also be informative. >> >> Here: >> >> 0 OFfb /pci@f000/ATY,XiaParent@10/ATY, >> >> I can't make much sense of this, can you? >> > > Looks like your booting with some video=ofonly arguments or something? > >> o An excerpt from dmesg: >> >> ... >> Using unsupported 1280x854 ATY,Xia_A at bc008000, depth=8, pitch=1280 >> Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 160x53 >> fb0: Open Firmware frame buffer device on >> /pci@f000/ATY,XiaParent@10/ATY,Xia_A >> no framebuffer address found for /pci@f000/ATY,XiaParent@10/ATY,Xia_B >> ... > > I have a 1280x854 config that was sent to me, which has been added to the > new installer. Have you tried with no "video=" arguments passed to the > kernel? You were right, there was indeed a video argument (leftover from my earlier trials), namely "video=radeon:1280x854-8@60". I took that out (the "Kernel command line" line in dmesg confirms that it was really taken out) , but that didn't change anything. /proc/fb is still the same, as are the dmesg lines above. -Christian
Re: Graphical Install on 1280x854 Powerbook?
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Christian Walther wrote: > >> clock : 667MHz > >> bogomips: 665.19 > > >> (That 667MHz puzzles me. This machine is supposed to run at 867MHz - is this > >> some power saving feature that only MacOS knows how to turn off?) > > > > I wouldn't sweat the bogomips, it's not all that reliable anyway. > > I wasn't referring to the bogomips (I don't even know what that is). I meant > the "clock : 667MHz" line. > Ahh, probably just a kernel bug then. > >> But I'm far away from X: It seems that the kernel doesn't even recognize the > >> Radeon card, with both Mandrake kernels (2.4.18 from 8.2 and 2.4.19 from the > >> cooker mirrors) and a bk 2.4.20 kernel from ppckernel.org. According to > >> something I read on some yellowdog mailing list archive, dmesg should contain > >> some lines starting with "radeonfb", which doesn't happen for me. > > > > Hmm, cat /proc/fb should also be informative. > > Here: > > 0 OFfb /pci@f000/ATY,XiaParent@10/ATY, > > I can't make much sense of this, can you? > Looks like your booting with some video=ofonly arguments or something? > And some other things that could help: > > o An excerpt from dmesg: > > ... > Using unsupported 1280x854 ATY,Xia_A at bc008000, depth=8, pitch=1280 > Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 160x53 > fb0: Open Firmware frame buffer device on > /pci@f000/ATY,XiaParent@10/ATY,Xia_A > no framebuffer address found for /pci@f000/ATY,XiaParent@10/ATY,Xia_B > ... > > o What happens when I do XFree86 -configure: > > XFree86 Version 4.2.1 / X Window System > (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600) > Release Date: 3 September 2002 > If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is > newer than the above date, look for a newer version before > reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/) > Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.19-16mdk ppc [ELF] > Module Loader present > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Wed Dec 4 23:26:09 2002 > Using vt 7 > List of video drivers: > atimisc > r128 > radeon > mga > glint > s3virge > sis > savage > trident > chips > tdfx > fbdev > ati > vga > nv > v4l > > Fatal server error: > > XFree86 has found a valid card configuration. > Unfortunately the appropriate data has not been added to xf86PciInfo.h. > Please forward 'scanpci -v' output to XFree86 support team. > > When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send > the full server output, not just the last messages. > This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log". > Please report problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Tell me if I can do anything else to pinpoint the problems. But don't feel > pressed, Linux is not critical for me at the moment. > I have a 1280x854 config that was sent to me, which has been added to the new installer. Have you tried with no "video=" arguments passed to the kernel? Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2
Re: Graphical Install on 1280x854 Powerbook?
>> clock : 667MHz >> bogomips: 665.19 >> (That 667MHz puzzles me. This machine is supposed to run at 867MHz - is this >> some power saving feature that only MacOS knows how to turn off?) > > I wouldn't sweat the bogomips, it's not all that reliable anyway. I wasn't referring to the bogomips (I don't even know what that is). I meant the "clock : 667MHz" line. >> But I'm far away from X: It seems that the kernel doesn't even recognize the >> Radeon card, with both Mandrake kernels (2.4.18 from 8.2 and 2.4.19 from the >> cooker mirrors) and a bk 2.4.20 kernel from ppckernel.org. According to >> something I read on some yellowdog mailing list archive, dmesg should contain >> some lines starting with "radeonfb", which doesn't happen for me. > > Hmm, cat /proc/fb should also be informative. Here: 0 OFfb /pci@f000/ATY,XiaParent@10/ATY, I can't make much sense of this, can you? And some other things that could help: o An excerpt from dmesg: ... Using unsupported 1280x854 ATY,Xia_A at bc008000, depth=8, pitch=1280 Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 160x53 fb0: Open Firmware frame buffer device on /pci@f000/ATY,XiaParent@10/ATY,Xia_A no framebuffer address found for /pci@f000/ATY,XiaParent@10/ATY,Xia_B ... o What happens when I do XFree86 -configure: XFree86 Version 4.2.1 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600) Release Date: 3 September 2002 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/) Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.19-16mdk ppc [ELF] Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Wed Dec 4 23:26:09 2002 Using vt 7 List of video drivers: atimisc r128 radeon mga glint s3virge sis savage trident chips tdfx fbdev ati vga nv v4l Fatal server error: XFree86 has found a valid card configuration. Unfortunately the appropriate data has not been added to xf86PciInfo.h. Please forward 'scanpci -v' output to XFree86 support team. When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full server output, not just the last messages. This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log". Please report problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tell me if I can do anything else to pinpoint the problems. But don't feel pressed, Linux is not critical for me at the moment. -Christian
Re: Graphical Install on 1280x854 Powerbook?
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Christian Walther wrote: > > If you happen to be up and running, could you post the output of: > > cat /proc/cpuinfo > > I'm halfways up and running. Enough to have a look at cpuinfo. Here: > > cpu : 7455, altivec supported > temperature : 53 C (uncalibrated) > clock : 667MHz > revision: 3.2 (pvr 8001 0302) > bogomips: 665.19 > machine : PowerBook3,5 > motherboard : PowerBook3,5 MacRISC2 MacRISC Power Macintosh > detected as : 95 (Unknown Keylargo-based) > pmac flags : > L2 cache: 256K unified > memory : 256MB > pmac-generation : NewWorld > > (That 667MHz puzzles me. This machine is supposed to run at 867MHz - is this > some power saving feature that only MacOS knows how to turn off?) > I wouldn't sweat the bogomips, it's not all that reliable anyway. The machine stanza was what I wanted, so I can push the installer to run at 1280x854 for you. > As for the halfways: my install wasn't entirely successful. I did a text > install first with the 8.2 CDs, then with the 9.1 cooker install ISO > (installing packages from the 8.2 CDs), and both gave me a segmentation > fault when I dismissed the dialog that lets you customize the various boot > options for yaboot. I then booted from the rescue image and used mkofboot > and ybin to install and configure yaboot manually, and my system is now > bootable and seems functional. But I'm far away from X: It seems that the > kernel doesn't even recognize the Radeon card, with both Mandrake kernels > (2.4.18 from 8.2 and 2.4.19 from the cooker mirrors) and a bk 2.4.20 kernel > from ppckernel.org. According to something I read on some yellowdog mailing > list archive, dmesg should contain some lines starting with "radeonfb", > which doesn't happen for me. > Hmm, cat /proc/fb should also be informative. The radeon driver is integrated in the Mandrake kernels, if I recall correctly, but your machine is newer than the last TiBook I know worked. Not sure what was going on with your segfaults in the bootloader setup. I imagine using the 9.x installer with 8.2 packages there would be some issues, because the paths changed for ybin and friends. I updated the 9.x ISO to reflect the new paths. I also know mkinitrd is not happy at all with the integrated mesh/mac53c94 and this is generating installer errors on the new ISO I'm working on. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2
Re: Graphical Install on 1280x854 Powerbook?
> If you happen to be up and running, could you post the output of: > cat /proc/cpuinfo I'm halfways up and running. Enough to have a look at cpuinfo. Here: cpu : 7455, altivec supported temperature : 53 C (uncalibrated) clock : 667MHz revision: 3.2 (pvr 8001 0302) bogomips: 665.19 machine : PowerBook3,5 motherboard : PowerBook3,5 MacRISC2 MacRISC Power Macintosh detected as : 95 (Unknown Keylargo-based) pmac flags : L2 cache: 256K unified memory : 256MB pmac-generation : NewWorld (That 667MHz puzzles me. This machine is supposed to run at 867MHz - is this some power saving feature that only MacOS knows how to turn off?) As for the halfways: my install wasn't entirely successful. I did a text install first with the 8.2 CDs, then with the 9.1 cooker install ISO (installing packages from the 8.2 CDs), and both gave me a segmentation fault when I dismissed the dialog that lets you customize the various boot options for yaboot. I then booted from the rescue image and used mkofboot and ybin to install and configure yaboot manually, and my system is now bootable and seems functional. But I'm far away from X: It seems that the kernel doesn't even recognize the Radeon card, with both Mandrake kernels (2.4.18 from 8.2 and 2.4.19 from the cooker mirrors) and a bk 2.4.20 kernel from ppckernel.org. According to something I read on some yellowdog mailing list archive, dmesg should contain some lines starting with "radeonfb", which doesn't happen for me. -Christian
Re: Graphical Install on 1280x854 Powerbook?
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Christian Walther wrote: > > There is radeon support for the card/display in the first TiBooks that > > used radeon, that was the latest machine (& th eLCD iMac) at the time 8.2 > > was created. I have an Xconfig for the 1280x854 if you want it, but I > > don't think it will help you in terms of the install. > > Yes, there have also been reports by other people on the list who had got X > to work, so I'm confident that I'll get that far as well, sooner or later. > > As I said, it was just a short question out of curiosity - I don't mind > doing a text install. > > > The pending installer beta will be using XFree by default, rather than > > Xpmac, I'll add the 1280x854 config. If you could test it, that would be > > wonderful. > > Sure, just post a notice to the list when it's ready. > If you happen to be up and running, could you post the output of: cat /proc/cpuinfo Thx, Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2
Re: Graphical Install on 1280x854 Powerbook?
> There is radeon support for the card/display in the first TiBooks that > used radeon, that was the latest machine (& th eLCD iMac) at the time 8.2 > was created. I have an Xconfig for the 1280x854 if you want it, but I > don't think it will help you in terms of the install. Yes, there have also been reports by other people on the list who had got X to work, so I'm confident that I'll get that far as well, sooner or later. As I said, it was just a short question out of curiosity - I don't mind doing a text install. > The pending installer beta will be using XFree by default, rather than > Xpmac, I'll add the 1280x854 config. If you could test it, that would be > wonderful. Sure, just post a notice to the list when it's ready. -Christian
Re: Graphical Install on 1280x854 Powerbook?
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Christian Walther wrote: > Has by accident anyone managed to get a graphical install on a 1280x854 > Powerbook (867MHz, in my case)? I didn't try very hard yet, and I'm not > afraid of doing a text install either, but I thought a quick question > couldn't hurt. My experiences up to now are that with install-novideo I get > a freeze at an X startup screen in false colors (what should be black > appears blue, white appears black), and with various ATI modes (is radeon > the right one for the Radeon Mobility 9000 in this machine?) I get a > responsive display, but which is horizontally stretched by a factor 4 and > overimposed on itself (and the colors don't seem to be right as well). > > -Christian There is radeon support for the card/display in the first TiBooks that used radeon, that was the latest machine (& th eLCD iMac) at the time 8.2 was created. I have an Xconfig for the 1280x854 if you want it, but I don't think it will help you in terms of the install. install-novideo is generally most successful on old machines with the apple display drivers like "control" etc. The pending installer beta will be using XFree by default, rather than Xpmac, I'll add the 1280x854 config. If you could test it, that would be wonderful. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2
Re: Graphical Install on 1280x854 Powerbook?
Christian, This isn't going to answer your question, but you reminded me of my recent 8.2 install, and how the install-novideo didn't work on my PB G3 (Pismo). Instead of the stretched screen, I got a black screen (perhaps that is what novideo means ;-). I did a text install the first couple of times (I had other problems, mostly with the boot partition), and then got brave and did an install-atyr128 (or something like that), and it worked fine. So based on my experience, I wouldn't rely on no-video to "just work". The text install isn't that bad (just keep pressing the Tab button ;-) I hope this helps, Craig... Christian Walther wrote: Has by accident anyone managed to get a graphical install on a 1280x854 Powerbook (867MHz, in my case)? I didn't try very hard yet, and I'm not afraid of doing a text install either, but I thought a quick question couldn't hurt. My experiences up to now are that with install-novideo I get a freeze at an X startup screen in false colors (what should be black appears blue, white appears black), and with various ATI modes (is radeon the right one for the Radeon Mobility 9000 in this machine?) I get a responsive display, but which is horizontally stretched by a factor 4 and overimposed on itself (and the colors don't seem to be right as well). -Christian
Graphical Install on 1280x854 Powerbook?
Has by accident anyone managed to get a graphical install on a 1280x854 Powerbook (867MHz, in my case)? I didn't try very hard yet, and I'm not afraid of doing a text install either, but I thought a quick question couldn't hurt. My experiences up to now are that with install-novideo I get a freeze at an X startup screen in false colors (what should be black appears blue, white appears black), and with various ATI modes (is radeon the right one for the Radeon Mobility 9000 in this machine?) I get a responsive display, but which is horizontally stretched by a factor 4 and overimposed on itself (and the colors don't seem to be right as well). -Christian
