Re: Nightmare installation on G3 beige

2003-03-17 Thread Stew Benedict

On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Alex Horvath wrote:

> Stew,
> 
> how difficult would it be to add hfs or FAT32 support to the installer so
> you could install off a hard disk in the machine ?
> 

OK - vfat was already in there.  Traded it for hfs, as it seems a bit more
appropriate on Macs.  New stage1's should hit the mirrors soon.

> I currently use FTP install, but it would be a lot faster to d/l the ISO,
> mount it, copy the files to the local drive and install from there.
> 
> Just a though.  BTW, thanks for the info on URPMI
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "cooker-ppc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 8:49 AM
> Subject: Re: Nightmare installation on G3 beige
> 
> 
> Stew Benedict ha scritto:
> 
> >On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >There is no seperate installer for Old World machines.  don't use the
> >kernel, nor all.gz in the .sit file, use the ones in /boot. I had not yet
> >updated the .sit file in RC1 (notice everything reference 8.2?).
> >
> >
> Ok. Lost time, so :-(
> 
> >
> >
> >>- No other kernel in the disk can recognize my cd drive (only the old
> kernel)
> >>- no other kernel recognize the hfs partition to install directly from HD
> after
> >>a copy of the distribution
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Never has been able to install from hfs, afaik.
> >
> 
> Yes, you're right: this option was possible with YDL kernel
> 
> >I was able to CD install
> >on a 7600, after loading mesh.
> 
> Loading? Uh, oh, have you loaded something? During the process install,
> the only loaded thing is: "INSMOD FAILED, retry?"
> Oh yeah, retry, retry...
> None modules can be loaded with the default kernel and his ramdisk :-(
> Anyway, my Cd drive is IDE...
> 
> Ok, thanks for your answer, Stew.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Stew Benedict

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Re: Nightmare installation on G3 beige

2003-03-16 Thread Stew Benedict

On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Alex Horvath wrote:

> Stew,
> 
> how difficult would it be to add hfs or FAT32 support to the installer so
> you could install off a hard disk in the machine ?
> 
> I currently use FTP install, but it would be a lot faster to d/l the ISO,
> mount it, copy the files to the local drive and install from there.
> 

Fat32 - there are a lot of Macs with Fat32 partitions?

It's a little late at this point to start tinkering with the installer,
I'm about ready to release the final.  Perhaps the next time around.  I
guess if you've already got the ISO, why not just burn it to CD?  It's not
a bad idea though, just adds a bit more to the stage1 installer.


Stew Benedict

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Re: Nightmare installation on G3 beige

2003-03-16 Thread Alex Horvath
Stew,

how difficult would it be to add hfs or FAT32 support to the installer so
you could install off a hard disk in the machine ?

I currently use FTP install, but it would be a lot faster to d/l the ISO,
mount it, copy the files to the local drive and install from there.

Just a though.  BTW, thanks for the info on URPMI
- Original Message -
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To: "cooker-ppc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: Nightmare installation on G3 beige


Stew Benedict ha scritto:

>On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
>
>There is no seperate installer for Old World machines.  don't use the
>kernel, nor all.gz in the .sit file, use the ones in /boot. I had not yet
>updated the .sit file in RC1 (notice everything reference 8.2?).
>
>
Ok. Lost time, so :-(

>
>
>>- No other kernel in the disk can recognize my cd drive (only the old
kernel)
>>- no other kernel recognize the hfs partition to install directly from HD
after
>>a copy of the distribution
>>
>>
>
>Never has been able to install from hfs, afaik.
>

Yes, you're right: this option was possible with YDL kernel

>I was able to CD install
>on a 7600, after loading mesh.

Loading? Uh, oh, have you loaded something? During the process install,
the only loaded thing is: "INSMOD FAILED, retry?"
Oh yeah, retry, retry...
None modules can be loaded with the default kernel and his ramdisk :-(
Anyway, my Cd drive is IDE...

Ok, thanks for your answer, Stew.







Re: Nightmare installation on G3 beige

2003-03-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stew Benedict ha scritto:

>On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
>
>There is no seperate installer for Old World machines.  don't use the
>kernel, nor all.gz in the .sit file, use the ones in /boot. I had not yet
>updated the .sit file in RC1 (notice everything reference 8.2?).
>  
>
Ok. Lost time, so :-(

>  
>
>>- No other kernel in the disk can recognize my cd drive (only the old kernel)
>>- no other kernel recognize the hfs partition to install directly from HD after
>>a copy of the distribution
>>
>>
>
>Never has been able to install from hfs, afaik. 
>

Yes, you're right: this option was possible with YDL kernel

>I was able to CD install
>on a 7600, after loading mesh.

Loading? Uh, oh, have you loaded something? During the process install, 
the only loaded thing is: "INSMOD FAILED, retry?"
Oh yeah, retry, retry...
None modules can be loaded with the default kernel and his ramdisk :-(
Anyway, my Cd drive is IDE...

Ok, thanks for your answer, Stew.





Re: Nightmare installation on G3 beige

2003-03-16 Thread Stew Benedict

On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi, folks
> 
> No way to install (or upgrade) to Mdk 9,1 RC1 on my box G3 beige MT 266 (OldWorl).
> All the problem that I found:
> 
> - The installer for OldWorld is out of date: still only for Mdk 8,2.
> - The kernel for OldWorld machines is 2,4,18, so if you can arrive to boot the
> installer, after no way to continue: the installer doesn't find the appropriate
> modules on /lib

There is no seperate installer for Old World machines.  don't use the
kernel, nor all.gz in the .sit file, use the ones in /boot. I had not yet
updated the .sit file in RC1 (notice everything reference 8.2?).

> - No other kernel in the disk can recognize my cd drive (only the old kernel)
> - no other kernel recognize the hfs partition to install directly from HD after
> a copy of the distribution

Never has been able to install from hfs, afaik. I was able to CD install
on a 7600, after loading mesh.

> - no kernel recognize the ext3 partition for the same purpose
>

Correct, stage1 only has ext2 support.
 
Stew Benedict

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Nightmare installation on G3 beige

2003-03-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi, folks

No way to install (or upgrade) to Mdk 9,1 RC1 on my box G3 beige MT 266 (OldWorl).
All the problem that I found:

- The installer for OldWorld is out of date: still only for Mdk 8,2.
- The kernel for OldWorld machines is 2,4,18, so if you can arrive to boot the
installer, after no way to continue: the installer doesn't find the appropriate
modules on /lib
- No other kernel in the disk can recognize my cd drive (only the old kernel)
- no other kernel recognize the hfs partition to install directly from HD after
a copy of the distribution
- no kernel recognize the ext3 partition for the same purpose

I have experimented all that I can: no result. After a night of nightmare: stop,
basta.

Happy sunday ;-)

Salvatore Comito