Re: Setup questions
Stew, Yes, I did and I appreciate your feedback., it's been very helpful. I did manage to get both my X and console running at 800x600. I left messages to cooker-ppc, but I don't see them yet. Jeff On Thursday 13 December 2001 08:23 am, Stew Benedict wrote: > Did you try what I sent before? If you're going to try to use fbset to > configure it, then you need to make sure X is using the fbdev driver and > remove all modelines from XF86config-4. See "man fbdev" for more details. > > Stew Benedict
Re: Setup questions
On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Jeff Elkins wrote: > I got fbset to work in console-mode: > > fbset 800x600-100 > > and some fbset -move commands have my iMac console running at 800x600 - yay! > > However, XFree86 (4.0.3) will still only display 1024x768 > > Can anyone assist? > > Thanks, > > Jeff Elkins > > > On Wednesday 12 December 2001 08:08 am, you wrote: > > 'm also investigating the fbset utility. I've been using Linux since > > Hector was a pup, but have never used frame buffers...pretty uncommon in > > the Intel world. > > > > Jeff > > > > > On my rev B I was able to get 800x600 by running at 24bpp and setting the > > > default to 800x600 in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4: > > > Did you try what I sent before? If you're going to try to use fbset to configure it, then you need to make sure X is using the fbdev driver and remove all modelines from XF86config-4. See "man fbdev" for more details. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/ PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: Setup questions
Solved for X and console: fbset 800x600-100 sets the console for 800x600 fbset -x gives timings that are plugged into XF86Config-4 Hope my adventure helps someone else! Jeff
Re: Setup questions
I got fbset to work in console-mode: fbset 800x600-100 and some fbset -move commands have my iMac console running at 800x600 - yay! However, XFree86 (4.0.3) will still only display 1024x768 Can anyone assist? Thanks, Jeff Elkins On Wednesday 12 December 2001 08:08 am, you wrote: > 'm also investigating the fbset utility. I've been using Linux since > Hector was a pup, but have never used frame buffers...pretty uncommon in > the Intel world. > > Jeff > > > On my rev B I was able to get 800x600 by running at 24bpp and setting the > > default to 800x600 in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4: > > > > > > Stew Benedict
Re: Setup questions
On Tuesday 11 December 2001 07:27 pm, you wrote: > Yes, adjusting resolution in Drakx and other such apps can be > troublesome even in the i586 version as well. If you know what you are > doing with editors I always recommend using them to "fix" your X config > files. But this is not very newbie friendly and is quite intimidating at > first. > It must be really bizarre for a Mac person. Getting hit with a command-line AND vi at the same time :) BTW, on the subject of editors, newbies should install/investigate pico and joe as alternatives to vi and emacs. Both are very beginner-friendly. Jeff
Re: Setup questions
'm also investigating the fbset utility. I've been using Linux since Hector was a pup, but have never used frame buffers...pretty uncommon in the Intel world. Jeff > On my rev B I was able to get 800x600 by running at 24bpp and setting the > default to 800x600 in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4: > > Stew Benedict
Re: Setup questions
On Tuesday, December 11, 2001, at 06:14 PM, Stew Benedict wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Jeff Elkins wrote: > >> Thank you! That worked perfectly. >> >> X is up, running at 1024x768. That's way too much for an iMac's tiny >> screen, >> so I'm still looking for a way to drop the rez to 800x600. >> >> Jeff >> >> >>> During install? A workaround: >>> >>> Switch to the console on VT2 (Command-Control-F2) >>> pdisk -l /deb/hda - note the Apple Bootstrap Partition >>> hformat /dev/hdx (x=above noted partition) >> > > On my rev B I was able to get 800x600 by running at 24bpp and setting > the > default to 800x600 in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4: > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "screen1" > Device "ATI Mach64" > Monitor "Apple|iMac/PowerBook 1024x768" > DefaultColorDepth 24 > Subsection "Display" > Depth 8 > Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > ViewPort0 0 > EndSubsection > Subsection "Display" > Depth 15 > Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > ViewPort0 0 > EndSubsection > Subsection "Display" > Depth 16 > Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > ViewPort0 0 > EndSubsection > Subsection "Display" > Depth 24 > Modes "800x600" "640x480" > ViewPort0 0 > EndSubsection > > I tried initiall with Drakx and the machine froze at test =( > YMMV > > Stew Benedict > > -- > MandrakeSoft OH/TN, USA http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/ > PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/ > Yes, adjusting resolution in Drakx and other such apps can be troublesome even in the i586 version as well. If you know what you are doing with editors I always recommend using them to "fix" your X config files. But this is not very newbie friendly and is quite intimidating at first.
Re: Setup questions
On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Jeff Elkins wrote: > Thank you! That worked perfectly. > > X is up, running at 1024x768. That's way too much for an iMac's tiny screen, > so I'm still looking for a way to drop the rez to 800x600. > > Jeff > > > > During install? A workaround: > > > > Switch to the console on VT2 (Command-Control-F2) > > pdisk -l /deb/hda - note the Apple Bootstrap Partition > > hformat /dev/hdx (x=above noted partition) > On my rev B I was able to get 800x600 by running at 24bpp and setting the default to 800x600 in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4: Section "Screen" Identifier "screen1" Device "ATI Mach64" Monitor "Apple|iMac/PowerBook 1024x768" DefaultColorDepth 24 Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection I tried initiall with Drakx and the machine froze at test =( YMMV Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/ PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: Setup questions
Thank you! That worked perfectly. X is up, running at 1024x768. That's way too much for an iMac's tiny screen, so I'm still looking for a way to drop the rez to 800x600. Jeff > During install? A workaround: > > Switch to the console on VT2 (Command-Control-F2) > pdisk -l /deb/hda - note the Apple Bootstrap Partition > hformat /dev/hdx (x=above noted partition)
Re: Setup questions
On Sun, 9 Dec 2001, Jeff Elkins wrote: > Howdy List, > > I've been attempting to install Mandrake 8.0 PPC on a 350Mhz iMac with mixed > results. > > 1. If the OS9 partition is over 500Mb or so, the yaboot boot loader refuses > to install, complaining that it's partition isn't HFS... > During install? A workaround: Switch to the console on VT2 (Command-Control-F2) pdisk -l /deb/hda - note the Apple Bootstrap Partition hformat /dev/hdx (x=above noted partition) Installer is supposed to do this for you. > 2. X and/or KDE won't start. I've tried both the frame buffer device and > regular Xfree86. I've gotten as far as the KDE splash screen (once) with > frame buffer, but never as far as the KDE desktop itself. > If you get to the KDE splashscreen, then X is functioning. Not sure why KDE might be hanging - sound driver? Is this a Rage128? You might check /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and see "Driver" is set to fbdev. For instance mine: Section "Device" Identifier "ATI Mach64" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" Driver "ati" # Clock lines > If these are FAQs or are answered in a list archive, apologies and I'd > appreciate a link to the proper document. > > Thanks! > > Jeff Elkins > Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/ PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: Setup questions
Gee that is a real pain. I hope that some one will chime in soon and tell you how to force a lower resolution. I don't mind the higher res but I can see your side completely. I'm soory I can't help you more:-( - Original Message - From: "Jeff Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 12:07 AM Subject: Re: Setup questions > Thanks for the reply. > > I pretty much did that from the console, using setup to call the config > utilities, but I did try it again using the X front-end Mandrake provides. > > No go. 1024x768 is all I've been able to make this iMac display, although a > wide range of resolutions are listed. > > Jeff > > > On Monday 10 December 2001 12:07 am, you wrote: > > I don't think you have to "force" a 800x600 resolution. What I would do > > first is take a look at your XFree86 configuration first and see if you > > have a range of resolutions that your monitor will work at. If 800x600 is > > there with the, what is it 768x1024, resolution then you should be able to > > go to the Mandrake Control Centre and adjust your resolution down to > > 800x600. You could just try that anyway right off, if doesn't work then you > > will have to come here again and find out how to force the lower resolution > > because that is out of my limited knowledge range. >
Re: Setup questions
Thanks for the reply. I pretty much did that from the console, using setup to call the config utilities, but I did try it again using the X front-end Mandrake provides. No go. 1024x768 is all I've been able to make this iMac display, although a wide range of resolutions are listed. Jeff On Monday 10 December 2001 12:07 am, you wrote: > I don't think you have to "force" a 800x600 resolution. What I would do > first is take a look at your XFree86 configuration first and see if you > have a range of resolutions that your monitor will work at. If 800x600 is > there with the, what is it 768x1024, resolution then you should be able to > go to the Mandrake Control Centre and adjust your resolution down to > 800x600. You could just try that anyway right off, if doesn't work then you > will have to come here again and find out how to force the lower resolution > because that is out of my limited knowledge range.
Re: Setup questions
I don't think you have to "force" a 800x600 resolution. What I would do first is take a look at your XFree86 configuration first and see if you have a range of resolutions that your monitor will work at. If 800x600 is there with the, what is it 768x1024, resolution then you should be able to go to the Mandrake Control Centre and adjust your resolution down to 800x600. You could just try that anyway right off, if doesn't work then you will have to come here again and find out how to force the lower resolution because that is out of my limited knowledge range. - Original Message - From: "Jeff Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 10:01 PM Subject: Re: Setup questions > FYI, I got X working at 1024x768...which is way too tiny for my vision and an > iMac screen. > > Any way to force 800x600? > > Jeff > > > > On Sunday 09 December 2001 06:14 pm, you wrote: > > Howdy List, > > > > I've been attempting to install Mandrake 8.0 PPC on a 350Mhz iMac with > > mixed results. > > > > 1. If the OS9 partition is over 500Mb or so, the yaboot boot loader refuses > > to install, complaining that it's partition isn't HFS... > > > > 2. X and/or KDE won't start. I've tried both the frame buffer device and > > regular Xfree86. I've gotten as far as the KDE splash screen (once) with > > frame buffer, but never as far as the KDE desktop itself. > > > > If these are FAQs or are answered in a list archive, apologies and I'd > > appreciate a link to the proper document. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Jeff Elkins > >
Re: Setup questions
FYI, I got X working at 1024x768...which is way too tiny for my vision and an iMac screen. Any way to force 800x600? Jeff On Sunday 09 December 2001 06:14 pm, you wrote: > Howdy List, > > I've been attempting to install Mandrake 8.0 PPC on a 350Mhz iMac with > mixed results. > > 1. If the OS9 partition is over 500Mb or so, the yaboot boot loader refuses > to install, complaining that it's partition isn't HFS... > > 2. X and/or KDE won't start. I've tried both the frame buffer device and > regular Xfree86. I've gotten as far as the KDE splash screen (once) with > frame buffer, but never as far as the KDE desktop itself. > > If these are FAQs or are answered in a list archive, apologies and I'd > appreciate a link to the proper document. > > Thanks! > > Jeff Elkins
