Re: TiBook w/Radeon Sleep???
On Wed, 1 May 2002, Sean Schertell wrote: There's a whole slew of posts below about people having trouble with sleep on the latest Radeon Mobility equipped TiBooks (550 and 667 MHz models). Did anyone find any solutions? I have a TiBook 550, with Mandrake 8.2 and the radeon kernel. Problem: Can't wake from sleep (crashes) and video not accelerated. Any 2001 TiBook success stories out there? Kernel recommendations? I'm a newbie so please don't hesitate to offer answers that seem obvious. Cheers... There is no radeon kernel. Sleep is an ongoing problem in these machines. I can try to make another pass at the power management if you folks want to test another kernel. As far as acceleration, when I had a TiBook in house, the installer correctly setup accelerated video on it. The only thing lacking was glx, I believe. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: TiBook w/Radeon Sleep???
If I understand the postings correctly, the Radeon TiBooks do recover from sleep, it's just X that is messed up? (That is, if you are in console mode, you can sleep/recover?). Thanks, Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: TiBook w/Radeon Sleep???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 01 May 2002 04:54, Sean Schertell wrote: There's a whole slew of posts below about people having trouble with sleep on the latest Radeon Mobility equipped TiBooks (550 and 667 MHz models). Did anyone find any solutions? I have a TiBook 550, with Mandrake 8.2 and the radeon kernel. Problem: Can't wake from sleep (crashes) and video not accelerated. Any 2001 TiBook success stories out there? Kernel recommendations? I'm a newbie so please don't hesitate to offer answers that seem obvious. Cheers... Just as a note: The Radeon Sleep bug is due to the Radeon chip, which does not respond correctly to the current kernel PMU calls. Kernel hackers such as BenH are working on it, but the bug has not been fully resolved yet. So for now, the best recommendation is to disable pmud and not use sleep features on Radeon based machines until a kernel with a solution to fix it is available. Greetings, Olivier Reisch - -- Olivier Reisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] TuxPPC Site Director http://www.tuxppc.org The number one user resource for Linux on PPC. For safe mail, get my PGP Key: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/olivier.reisch/oreisch_public_key.gpg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8z9HttYcLvEeHIXURAmQ/AKCYZm9XPmSZMbQHnHh2/fXb1TjqcgCgwJSb 6QOhAOa+/iQ9yK8QVDT/vso= =ZWY+ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: TiBook w/Radeon Sleep???
Hi If I understand the postings correctly, the Radeon TiBooks do recover from sleep, it's just X that is messed up? (That is, if you are in console mode, you can sleep/recover?). Thanks, Stew Benedict No, my PB dosen't weake up in any case.I always try those things at consolemode first. No chance, frezzes completely. Testing another kernel? Sure, would check out anything that might help. Testing is no problem in that case, only the fsck while rebooting sucks a bit :-) But hey, if you have any ideas, i'm in the business. Strange is, it works correctly as it should with ydl on my machine, with redeon based x too. cu
Re: TiBook w/Radeon Sleep???
On Wed, 1 May 2002, James Hunter wrote: Hi If I understand the postings correctly, the Radeon TiBooks do recover from sleep, it's just X that is messed up? (That is, if you are in console mode, you can sleep/recover?). Thanks, Stew Benedict No, my PB dosen't weake up in any case.I always try those things at consolemode first. No chance, frezzes completely. Testing another kernel? Sure, would check out anything that might help. Testing is no problem in that case, only the fsck while rebooting sucks a bit :-) But hey, if you have any ideas, i'm in the business. Strange is, it works correctly as it should with ydl on my machine, with redeon based x too. YDL uses a pure BenH kernel, whereas we have a kernel.org+mdk patches kernel, with PPC patches on top of that. My task is to find out what is lacking in our kernel, vs. BenH. I did one build, pulling in more of BenH's power management code, but I'm not sure any of the Radeon TiBook folks tested the kernel I posted. I rebuild and post it again, for a start. It's always good when testing things like this to unmount any partitions you don't need, and do: sync sync before your sleep test (or use a journalled filesystem - I'd still do the sync though) Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: TiBook w/Radeon Sleep???
On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, at 07:24 PM, Stew Benedict wrote: On Wed, 1 May 2002, Sean Schertell wrote: There's a whole slew of posts below about people having trouble with sleep on the latest Radeon Mobility equipped TiBooks (550 and 667 MHz models). Did anyone find any solutions? I have a TiBook 550, with Mandrake 8.2 and the radeon kernel. Problem: Can't wake from sleep (crashes) and video not accelerated. Any 2001 TiBook success stories out there? Kernel recommendations? I'm a newbie so please don't hesitate to offer answers that seem obvious. Cheers... There is no radeon kernel. Sleep is an ongoing problem in these machines. I can try to make another pass at the power management if you folks want to test another kernel. As far as acceleration, when I had a TiBook in house, the installer correctly setup accelerated video on it. The only thing lacking was glx, I believe. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/ Please clarify for me, what does the installer do differently when I use the install-radeon method? Sean Schertell
RE: TiBook w/Radeon Sleep???
It loads a different x server for the graphical install. the x server is for use with a radeon video card. Andy -Original Message- From: Sean Schertell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TiBook w/Radeon Sleep??? On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, at 07:24 PM, Stew Benedict wrote: On Wed, 1 May 2002, Sean Schertell wrote: There's a whole slew of posts below about people having trouble with sleep on the latest Radeon Mobility equipped TiBooks (550 and 667 MHz models). Did anyone find any solutions? I have a TiBook 550, with Mandrake 8.2 and the radeon kernel. Problem: Can't wake from sleep (crashes) and video not accelerated. Any 2001 TiBook success stories out there? Kernel recommendations? I'm a newbie so please don't hesitate to offer answers that seem obvious. Cheers... There is no radeon kernel. Sleep is an ongoing problem in these machines. I can try to make another pass at the power management if you folks want to test another kernel. As far as acceleration, when I had a TiBook in house, the installer correctly setup accelerated video on it. The only thing lacking was glx, I believe. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/ Please clarify for me, what does the installer do differently when I use the install-radeon method? Sean Schertell
RE: TiBook w/Radeon Sleep???
well, module that is. andy -Original Message- From: Kener, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 11:13 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: TiBook w/Radeon Sleep??? It loads a different x server for the graphical install. the x server is for use with a radeon video card. Andy -Original Message- From: Sean Schertell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TiBook w/Radeon Sleep??? On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, at 07:24 PM, Stew Benedict wrote: On Wed, 1 May 2002, Sean Schertell wrote: There's a whole slew of posts below about people having trouble with sleep on the latest Radeon Mobility equipped TiBooks (550 and 667 MHz models). Did anyone find any solutions? I have a TiBook 550, with Mandrake 8.2 and the radeon kernel. Problem: Can't wake from sleep (crashes) and video not accelerated. Any 2001 TiBook success stories out there? Kernel recommendations? I'm a newbie so please don't hesitate to offer answers that seem obvious. Cheers... There is no radeon kernel. Sleep is an ongoing problem in these machines. I can try to make another pass at the power management if you folks want to test another kernel. As far as acceleration, when I had a TiBook in house, the installer correctly setup accelerated video on it. The only thing lacking was glx, I believe. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/ Please clarify for me, what does the installer do differently when I use the install-radeon method? Sean Schertell
Re: TiBook w/Radeon Sleep???
since sleep dosen't work even if your NOT in x, does this mean that the bug has nothing to do w/ radeon? does the video= options only come into play for X? mike _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
Re: TiBook w/Radeon Sleep???
On Wed, 1 May 2002, Michael Marcucio wrote: since sleep dosen't work even if your NOT in x, does this mean that the bug has nothing to do w/ radeon? does the video= options only come into play for X? mike I talked to Olivier in IRC and he caught BenH on another channel. According to Ben, working sleep for Radeon TiBooks is pretty much the luck of the draw. Some kernels may work. Another build of the same kernel may not, and a kernel binary that worked for a while may mysteriously stop working. Ben is waiting for information from ATI, according to what Olivier told me, so I think the best course of action at this point, for me, is to wait until Ben has a proper fix in place. If sleep is critical for you, and you can give up the features of the Mandrake kernel, then using the YDL kernel that is supposed to be working is probably the best option, right now. PS - You folks shouldn't feel that PPC is the only platform that gets a raw deal. I just setup a new AMD Compaq notebook (yeah, yeah I know - Apple, Apple Apple!) and I have no sleep, network, nor modem, and xmms won't play CD's. (luckily there was tulip driver I could add for the network). Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: TiBook w/Radeon Sleep???
PS - You folks shouldn't feel that PPC is the only platform that gets a raw deal. I just setup a new AMD Compaq notebook (yeah, yeah I know - Apple, Apple Apple!) and I have no sleep, network, nor modem, and xmms won't play CD's. (luckily there was tulip driver I could add for the network). while playing around with mandrake on my pc(w/ no exotic hardware) i realized how stable the ppc version really is in comparsion to the pc version! my powerbook is just more stable, which is really hard to believe because of the ratio of pc to ppc testers/developers out there.. we are all talking about sleep on the Ti because there really isn't anything else that dosent work perfectly on (my) powerbook(i ment that as a complament)! mike Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/ _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
