RE: iMac boot problem

2002-11-13 Thread Stew Benedict

On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Damon Garn wrote:

> I have had exactly the same problem. iMac 266 with a 40GB drive. I've got
> OSX on the first 7.5 GB then attempted a Mandrake 8.2PPC install on  the
> next partition. However, my install was CD-based. I too get to the
> bootloader and then pick Linux and receive the Unknown or corrupt filesystem
> error. I've also verified my OpenFirmware settings with the same line.
> Booting into OSX is still successful. I've tried this several times
> (reboots, not reinstalls).
> 
> Any thoughts on this?
> Thanks!
> Damon Garn
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:cooker-ppc-owner@;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf Of Curtis Kline
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:50 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: iMac boot problem
> 
> 
> I have an iMac 333Mhz with a 6 Gig drive and 96MB RAM. I did a netboot
> and an FTP install of Mandrake PPC 8.2, and the install process seemed
> to go well. When it said I needed to reboot to start Mandrake, I did so.
> I get a bootloader menu and choose "l" for linux. Then Yaboot comes up,
> and soon it attempts to load the kernel. It then fails:
> 
> "hd:5,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk: Unknown or corrupt filesystem"
> 
> I tried going into OpenFirmware and entering:
> 
> "setenv boot-device hd:5,\\:tbxi"
> 
> Rebooting after this produces exactly the same results.
> 
> 
> Any ideas on how to get my iMac to boot Mandrake would be hugely
> appreciated.
> 
> 

It's possible both of you made the mistake of configuring bootstrap as
/boot.  The one above of hd:5 seems odd for a couple of reasons.  One, a
machine with MacOS usually consumes 3 or 4 partitions for "drivers".
Secondly, since the syntax doesn't specify hd:5,/boot/vmlinuz., it
appears you are using a seperate /boot.  This is fine, but it should not
be the same partition as the bootstrap.  The bootstrap partition is only
to boot the machine and should not be part of Linux's (or MacOS's) mounted
filesystem.  A lot of people fall into this trap, I guess because one of
the distributions did treat bootstrap as /boot, but that is not how we
configure things.  It's only possible to make this happen, afaik, by
manually selecting the bootstrap and mounting it as /boot.  The default
configuration is only 1MB, so it doesn't leave much room for 1 kernel and
initrd, let alone multiple kernels and yaboot, etc.  Also, since the
bootstrap is normally an hfs partition, you lose any permissions, etc.
that a normal Linux filesystem maintains.

The people I've helped in the past on IRC were able to recover from this
setup by booting into rescue, mounting "/" and examining /boot to verify
their kernel etc. were there and then editing yaboot.conf to point to the
correct partition, with the /boot prefix for all the kernel and initrd
entries.

It's also possible you guys are hitting the hardware issue on the old
iMacs of needing the kernel fairly low in the partition table.  I keep
a seperate /boot on my machine for this very reason.

Stew Benedict


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RE: iMac boot problem

2002-11-12 Thread Stew Benedict

On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Curtis Kline wrote:

> Update:
> 
> The reason I went with a network install was that the CDROM in this iMac
> was fried. Since I couldn't get it to boot, I gave up on that iMac and
> selected another one with the same specs (we have them coming out our
> ears).  This one has a working CDROM, so I was able to do something I
> didn't do before: Initialize the hard drive by booting off a MacOS CD.
> Maybe that was my problem...
> 
> So this time I did a CD install, and it went flawlessly. After all was
> installed, it rebooted just fine. I logged in as an unprivileged user
> and typed "startx". The Mandrake first timer stuff came up, and I went
> through that. Now I have a new showstopper of a problem: While in KDE,
> the screen blanks out for about a second every 10 seconds or so. I
> cannot even imagine what could cause this!  Any ideas would be greatly
> appreciated.
> 

A couple of workarounds, one or the other should work:

1) Add

Option "composite_sync" "off"

To /etc/X11/XF86Config-4

Above:

BusID "PCI:0:17:0"

Would be a good place. (17 is my machine - yours may vary)

2) Disable X's i2c driver

mv /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libi2c.a  /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libi2c.a.bad

> Remember, this iMac worked fine in MacOS, and works fine in Mandrake as
> long as X isn't running.
> 

Sure it works in MacOS, Apple owns the hardware and OS :)

Stew Benedict

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RE: iMac boot problem

2002-11-12 Thread Curtis Kline

Quite nicely solved my problem. Thanks Ben (And Stew). I tried the
second solution first, and that didn't solve it. As soon as I edited the
XF86Config-4 file and restarted X, everything was fine. I love the easy
fixes!


Thanks again,
Curtis
 

+ -Original Message-
+ From: Ben McGruer [mailto:ben@;mcgruer.net] 
+ Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:53 PM
+ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+ Subject: Re: iMac boot problem
+ 
+ 
+ I had the same video problem, and I believe it's far from 
+ unique, I fixed it
+ by following the info on this page:
+ http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&m=10336916
+ 4309193&w=2
+ 
+ Hope that helps,
+ Ben
+ 
+ > Update:
+ > 
+ > The reason I went with a network install was that the CDROM 
+ in this iMac
+ > was fried. Since I couldn't get it to boot, I gave up on 
+ that iMac and
+ > selected another one with the same specs (we have them 
+ coming out our
+ > ears).  This one has a working CDROM, so I was able to do 
+ something I
+ > didn't do before: Initialize the hard drive by booting off 
+ a MacOS CD.
+ > Maybe that was my problem...
+ > 
+ > So this time I did a CD install, and it went flawlessly. 
+ After all was
+ > installed, it rebooted just fine. I logged in as an 
+ unprivileged user
+ > and typed "startx". The Mandrake first timer stuff came up, 
+ and I went
+ > through that. Now I have a new showstopper of a problem: 
+ While in KDE,
+ > the screen blanks out for about a second every 10 seconds or so. I
+ > cannot even imagine what could cause this!  Any ideas would 
+ be greatly
+ > appreciated.
+ > 
+ > Remember, this iMac worked fine in MacOS, and works fine in 
+ Mandrake as
+ > long as X isn't running.
+ > 
+ > I really want to have a Mandrake PPC graphical workstation 
+ on my desk,
+ > and I can't just keep switching iMacs.. I will eventually run out of
+ > options.
+ > 
+ > 
+ > Thanks,
+ > Curtis
+ > 
+ > 
+ > + -Original Message-
+ > + From: Curtis Kline
+ > + Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:50 PM
+ > + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+ > + Subject: iMac boot problem
+ > + 
+ > + 
+ > + I have an iMac 333Mhz with a 6 Gig drive and 96MB RAM. I 
+ did a netboot
+ > + and an FTP install of Mandrake PPC 8.2, and the install 
+ process seemed
+ > + to go well. When it said I needed to reboot to start
+ > + Mandrake, I did so.
+ > + I get a bootloader menu and choose "l" for linux. Then Yaboot
+ > + comes up,
+ > + and soon it attempts to load the kernel. It then fails:
+ > + 
+ > + "hd:5,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk: Unknown or corrupt filesystem"
+ > + 
+ > + I tried going into OpenFirmware and entering:
+ > + 
+ > + "setenv boot-device hd:5,\\:tbxi"
+ > + 
+ > + Rebooting after this produces exactly the same results.
+ > + 
+ > + 
+ > + Any ideas on how to get my iMac to boot Mandrake would be hugely
+ > + appreciated.
+ > + 
+ > + 
+ > + Thanks,
+ > + Curtis
+ > + 
+ > + 
+ > + __
+ > + Curtis Kline
+ > + Residential Network Coordinator
+ > + University of California Santa Barbara
+ > + 805.893.4016 Voice
+ > + 805.893.4766 FAX
+ > + 
+ > + GnuPG Key Fingerprint
+ > + 0E9B 4BAB B64D 9CB9 022C AB36 0CF6 E1D4 CCA5 F3AE
+ > + Public key here: http://gollum.resnet.ucsb.edu/ckkey.txt
+ > +  
+ > + 
+ > + 
+ > 
+ > 
+ 
+ 
+ 




Re: iMac boot problem

2002-11-12 Thread Ben McGruer
I had the same video problem, and I believe it's far from unique, I fixed it
by following the info on this page:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&m=103369164309193&w=2

Hope that helps,
Ben

> Update:
> 
> The reason I went with a network install was that the CDROM in this iMac
> was fried. Since I couldn't get it to boot, I gave up on that iMac and
> selected another one with the same specs (we have them coming out our
> ears).  This one has a working CDROM, so I was able to do something I
> didn't do before: Initialize the hard drive by booting off a MacOS CD.
> Maybe that was my problem...
> 
> So this time I did a CD install, and it went flawlessly. After all was
> installed, it rebooted just fine. I logged in as an unprivileged user
> and typed "startx". The Mandrake first timer stuff came up, and I went
> through that. Now I have a new showstopper of a problem: While in KDE,
> the screen blanks out for about a second every 10 seconds or so. I
> cannot even imagine what could cause this!  Any ideas would be greatly
> appreciated.
> 
> Remember, this iMac worked fine in MacOS, and works fine in Mandrake as
> long as X isn't running.
> 
> I really want to have a Mandrake PPC graphical workstation on my desk,
> and I can't just keep switching iMacs.. I will eventually run out of
> options.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Curtis
> 
> 
> + -----Original Message-
> + From: Curtis Kline
> + Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:50 PM
> + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> + Subject: iMac boot problem
> + 
> + 
> + I have an iMac 333Mhz with a 6 Gig drive and 96MB RAM. I did a netboot
> + and an FTP install of Mandrake PPC 8.2, and the install process seemed
> + to go well. When it said I needed to reboot to start
> + Mandrake, I did so.
> + I get a bootloader menu and choose "l" for linux. Then Yaboot
> + comes up,
> + and soon it attempts to load the kernel. It then fails:
> + 
> + "hd:5,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk: Unknown or corrupt filesystem"
> + 
> + I tried going into OpenFirmware and entering:
> + 
> + "setenv boot-device hd:5,\\:tbxi"
> + 
> + Rebooting after this produces exactly the same results.
> + 
> + 
> + Any ideas on how to get my iMac to boot Mandrake would be hugely
> + appreciated.
> + 
> + 
> + Thanks,
> + Curtis
> + 
> + 
> + __
> + Curtis Kline
> + Residential Network Coordinator
> + University of California Santa Barbara
> + 805.893.4016 Voice
> + 805.893.4766 FAX
> + 
> + GnuPG Key Fingerprint
> + 0E9B 4BAB B64D 9CB9 022C AB36 0CF6 E1D4 CCA5 F3AE
> + Public key here: http://gollum.resnet.ucsb.edu/ckkey.txt
> +  
> + 
> + 
> 
> 





RE: iMac boot problem

2002-11-12 Thread Curtis Kline
Update:

The reason I went with a network install was that the CDROM in this iMac
was fried. Since I couldn't get it to boot, I gave up on that iMac and
selected another one with the same specs (we have them coming out our
ears).  This one has a working CDROM, so I was able to do something I
didn't do before: Initialize the hard drive by booting off a MacOS CD.
Maybe that was my problem...

So this time I did a CD install, and it went flawlessly. After all was
installed, it rebooted just fine. I logged in as an unprivileged user
and typed "startx". The Mandrake first timer stuff came up, and I went
through that. Now I have a new showstopper of a problem: While in KDE,
the screen blanks out for about a second every 10 seconds or so. I
cannot even imagine what could cause this!  Any ideas would be greatly
appreciated.

Remember, this iMac worked fine in MacOS, and works fine in Mandrake as
long as X isn't running.

I really want to have a Mandrake PPC graphical workstation on my desk,
and I can't just keep switching iMacs.. I will eventually run out of
options.


Thanks,
Curtis
 

+ -Original Message-
+ From: Curtis Kline 
+ Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:50 PM
+ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+ Subject: iMac boot problem
+ 
+ 
+ I have an iMac 333Mhz with a 6 Gig drive and 96MB RAM. I did a netboot
+ and an FTP install of Mandrake PPC 8.2, and the install process seemed
+ to go well. When it said I needed to reboot to start 
+ Mandrake, I did so.
+ I get a bootloader menu and choose "l" for linux. Then Yaboot 
+ comes up,
+ and soon it attempts to load the kernel. It then fails:
+ 
+ "hd:5,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk: Unknown or corrupt filesystem"
+ 
+ I tried going into OpenFirmware and entering:
+ 
+ "setenv boot-device hd:5,\\:tbxi"
+ 
+ Rebooting after this produces exactly the same results.
+ 
+ 
+ Any ideas on how to get my iMac to boot Mandrake would be hugely
+ appreciated.
+ 
+ 
+ Thanks,
+ Curtis
+ 
+ 
+ __
+ Curtis Kline
+ Residential Network Coordinator
+ University of California Santa Barbara
+ 805.893.4016 Voice
+ 805.893.4766 FAX
+ 
+ GnuPG Key Fingerprint 
+ 0E9B 4BAB B64D 9CB9 022C AB36 0CF6 E1D4 CCA5 F3AE
+ Public key here: http://gollum.resnet.ucsb.edu/ckkey.txt
+  
+ 
+ 




iMac boot problem

2002-11-12 Thread Curtis Kline
I have an iMac 333Mhz with a 6 Gig drive and 96MB RAM. I did a netboot
and an FTP install of Mandrake PPC 8.2, and the install process seemed
to go well. When it said I needed to reboot to start Mandrake, I did so.
I get a bootloader menu and choose "l" for linux. Then Yaboot comes up,
and soon it attempts to load the kernel. It then fails:

"hd:5,/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6.1mdk: Unknown or corrupt filesystem"

I tried going into OpenFirmware and entering:

"setenv boot-device hd:5,\\:tbxi"

Rebooting after this produces exactly the same results.


Any ideas on how to get my iMac to boot Mandrake would be hugely
appreciated.


Thanks,
Curtis


__
Curtis Kline
Residential Network Coordinator
University of California Santa Barbara
805.893.4016 Voice
805.893.4766 FAX

GnuPG Key Fingerprint 
0E9B 4BAB B64D 9CB9 022C AB36 0CF6 E1D4 CCA5 F3AE
Public key here: http://gollum.resnet.ucsb.edu/ckkey.txt