Re: [COOT] Failed to match the ligands' atom names

2014-09-14 Thread Paul Emsley

On 13/09/14 19:06, Oliver Smart wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2014, Shane Caldwell wrote:



Hi Helena,

I'm not sure if this is the same issue, but I've run into a problem 
where there is a mismatch between atom names and restraints
files where some programs use 'primes' and others use asterisks (I 
assume this is part of ongoing standardization?). The ribose
ring goofs it up. Keeping the restraints and coordinates from the 
same program (I have been using GRADE) through all refinement
has kept this from being an issue anymore for me. You just need to 
load your own .cif file when you open the coordinates as well.


Cheers,
Shane Caldwell
McGill University

> On Sep 12, 2014 8:36 AM, "Helena Taberman"  
wrote:

>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am using the coot 0.8-pre (revision 5201) version and having 
problems with my ligand cif files. My ligand is just a common
NADP and the atom names at the PDB file match the atom names at the 
cif file, but for some reason I am not able to do any real
space refinement ect. at coot for it since the coot fails to match 
(to the dictionary) the following model atom names and it
would cause exploding atoms. I have tried to change my NADP to 
different molecules downloaded form PDB or just searching with the
three letter code from the dictionary of coot, but having trouble 
with any molecule used. There’s also this persistent clash in
the middle of the NADP molecule on both sides of the phosphorous next 
to the ribose ring.

>>
>> I’m getting despered. Would you have any ideas?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Helena



Helena,

Shane is completely correct. You have almost certainly hit
a problem that your PDB file is using old v2 atom names whereas
you recent coot/ccp4 is using the "new" (5 years ago?) atom names.


I am unconvinced.  Helena says that her Coot is recent and therefore the 
dictionary against which Helena compared the atoms is recent too.  There 
haven't been asterisks in Coot for (as you say) about 5 years.


Helena, please try this:

File -> Get Monomer -> NAP
then
Regularize Zone on the imported NAP.

It should just work.

For the refinement to work on your NAP the atom names should match both 
the dictionary and the imported NAP.


p.s. you could try a grade dictionary from 
http://grade.globalphasing.org/

(thanks Shane) but I shouldn't abuse the coot list :-;


Grade-chat not unwelcome here :-)

Paul.


Re: [COOT] COOT Digest - 13 Sep 2014 to 14 Sep 2014 (#2014-117)

2014-09-14 Thread Mark Saper
A 10.8 standalone would be helpful for me. 

I can't remember 10.6.8 but I would probably agree.

Mark Saper
3040 & 3250 Chemistry Building
Dept of Biological Chemistry
sa...@umich.edu
734 764 3353 office   734 276 6505 mobile

> On Sep 14, 2014, at 7:01 PM, COOT automatic digest system 
>  wrote:
> 
> There is 1 message totaling 36 lines in this issue.
> 
> Topics of the day:
> 
>  1. Coot on OS X  10.6.X ?
> 
> --
> 
> Date:Sun, 14 Sep 2014 08:54:50 -0700
> From:"William G. Scott" 
> Subject: Coot on OS X  10.6.X ?
> 
> Hi folks:
> 
> Does anyone use my pre-compiled version of coot for OS X 10.6 anymore?  (This 
> would be either the 10.6 stand-alone or the fink debian distribution)?
> 
> Fink has discontinued support for 10.6, and I only have the one mac mini in 
> my lab running it, so at some point the end is inevitable.
> 
> (My personal, irrelevant opinion was that 10.6.8 was the best version of OS X 
> and it has been in decline ever since.)
> 
> Also, we made a lot of small changes recently in the 10.7-10.9 coot fink dist 
> and the 10.9 stand-alone packages, so please let me know if there is any 
> weirdness.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> 
> 
> William G. Scott
> 
> http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/~wgscott
> 
> --
> 
> End of COOT Digest - 13 Sep 2014 to 14 Sep 2014 (#2014-117)
> ***


[COOT] Coot on OS X 10.6.X ?

2014-09-14 Thread William G. Scott
Hi folks:

Does anyone use my pre-compiled version of coot for OS X 10.6 anymore?  (This 
would be either the 10.6 stand-alone or the fink debian distribution)?

Fink has discontinued support for 10.6, and I only have the one mac mini in my 
lab running it, so at some point the end is inevitable.

(My personal, irrelevant opinion was that 10.6.8 was the best version of OS X 
and it has been in decline ever since.)

Also, we made a lot of small changes recently in the 10.7-10.9 coot fink dist 
and the 10.9 stand-alone packages, so please let me know if there is any 
weirdness.

All the best,

Bill




William G. Scott

http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/~wgscott