Re: [COOT] Unmodeled blobs behaviour
The placement in the centre of mass of a cluster of peaks would explain the behaviour in many cases. There are some cases though when Coot puts me "in the middle of nowhere" as for occurrence of unexplained density peaks. .. Not critical - just a bit hindering in the process of validation. Jan On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Paul Emsley wrote: > Paul Emsley wrote: >> >> Jan Dohnalek wrote: >> >>> >>> I have noticed that Coot puts me in irrelevant places when I use the >>> Unmodeled blobs validation. It does its job but then the list of blobs sends >>> me to perfectly interpreted places and I cannot see any uninterpreted >>> blobs... >>> >> >> I don't know why this should be, I have not seen it before. >> > > Ingo K. reminds me that he and I corresponded about this issue some time > ago. > > One problem could be that the symmetry and cell of the map does not match > the symmetry and cell of the related protein. > > Or perhaps it's because Coot does not use the "viewing" contour level to > generate blob map point clusters, i.e. it could be using a contour level > much below what you are looking at. Coot positions the view at the centre > of a blob. If the blob consists of an "arc" of points (as is often the case) > the centre of the blob will not be *in* the blob. > > Paul. > -- Jan Dohnalek, Ph.D Institute of Macromolecular Chemistry Academy of Sciences of the Czech Republic Heyrovskeho nam. 2 16206 Praha 6 Czech Republic Tel: +420 296 809 390 Fax: +420 296 809 410
Re: [COOT] Unmodeled blobs behaviour
Paul Emsley wrote: Jan Dohnalek wrote: I have noticed that Coot puts me in irrelevant places when I use the Unmodeled blobs validation. It does its job but then the list of blobs sends me to perfectly interpreted places and I cannot see any uninterpreted blobs... I don't know why this should be, I have not seen it before. Ingo K. reminds me that he and I corresponded about this issue some time ago. One problem could be that the symmetry and cell of the map does not match the symmetry and cell of the related protein. Or perhaps it's because Coot does not use the "viewing" contour level to generate blob map point clusters, i.e. it could be using a contour level much below what you are looking at. Coot positions the view at the centre of a blob. If the blob consists of an "arc" of points (as is often the case) the centre of the blob will not be *in* the blob. Paul.
Re: [COOT] Unmodeled blobs behaviour
Yes, I have this problem, too. - Original Message - From: "Paul Emsley" To: Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 12:36 PM Subject: Re: Unmodeled blobs behaviour Jan Dohnalek wrote: I have noticed that Coot puts me in irrelevant places when I use the Unmodeled blobs validation. It does its job but then the list of blobs sends me to perfectly interpreted places and I cannot see any uninterpreted blobs... I don't know why this should be, I have not seen it before. Paul.
Re: [COOT] Unmodeled blobs behaviour
Jan Dohnalek wrote: I have noticed that Coot puts me in irrelevant places when I use the Unmodeled blobs validation. It does its job but then the list of blobs sends me to perfectly interpreted places and I cannot see any uninterpreted blobs... I don't know why this should be, I have not seen it before. Paul.
[COOT] Unmodeled blobs behaviour
Dear all, I have noticed that Coot puts me in irrelevant places when I use the Unmodeled blobs validation. It does its job but then the list of blobs sends me to perfectly interpreted places and I cannot see any uninterpreted blobs... Jan -- Jan Dohnalek, Ph.D Institute of Macromolecular Chemistry Academy of Sciences of the Czech Republic Heyrovskeho nam. 2 16206 Praha 6 Czech Republic Tel: +420 296 809 390 Fax: +420 296 809 410