[COOT] how to optimise the geometry in the coot

2009-02-26 Thread Jhon Thomas
Hello paul

I am completley naive with coot.I am using the coot present with the
ccp4-6.0.2, which is an older version of coot. I am facing very difficulty
in optimising the geometry of the model in coot.I follow the tutorial for
optimisation of the geometry. i go like this.

1)
a) real space refinement of particular zone and then regularization the
zone.real space refinement puts the selected model parts in the density
and regularization again optimizes the model part. but, its very hard to
maintain the perfect geometry for the model this way..

b) Rotate-translate zone followed by real space refinement and then
regularaization.

but, this i am facing very difficulty in regularization..
I always set the coot real matrix weight around 20.


Is this is the correct protocol or there is another way to control the
refinement and regularization in coot.

thnaks in advance

Regards
jhon


Re: [COOT] how to optimise the geometry in the coot

2009-02-26 Thread Paul Emsley

Jhon Thomas wrote:

Hello paul

I am completley naive with coot.I am using the coot present with the 
ccp4-6.0.2, which is an older version of coot. I am facing very 
difficulty in optimising the geometry of the model in coot.I follow 
the tutorial for optimisation of the geometry. i go like this.


1)
a) real space refinement of particular zone and then regularization 
the zone.


I doubt that that's what it says in the tutorial.


real space refinement puts the selected model parts in the density and 
regularization again optimizes the model part. but, its very hard to 
maintain the perfect geometry for the model this way..


What is wrong with the geometry?


b) Rotate-translate zone followed by real space refinement and then 
regularaization.


You need RTZ? Urgh.



but, this i am facing very difficulty in regularization..
I always set the coot real matrix weight around 20.


Is this is the correct protocol


No.

or there is another way to control the refinement and regularization 
in coot.




A rule of thumb:  don't use regularization when you have electron density.

Go to a good area of the model.  Triple refine.  Are the traffic lights 
all green?  Good.  If not change the weight until they are.


Now work on the problematic region...

HTH,

Paul.