Re: Java-Time Clock Implementation Note

2017-05-16 Thread Stephen Colebourne
I'll let you log the issue, as you'll know what flags to set to get it
through the process!
Stephen

On 16 May 2017 at 15:39, Daniel Fuchs  wrote:
> Thanks Stephen,
>
> On 16/05/2017 15:32, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
>>
>> Its not terrible, but I think confusing enough it should be fixed.
>>
>> Maybe:
>> "The clock implementation provided here is based on the same
>> underlying clock as System.currentTimeMillis(), but may have a
>> precision finer
>> than milliseconds if available. However, little to no guarantee is
>> provided about the accuracy of the underlying clock. Applications
>> requiring a more accurate clock must implement this abstract class
>> themselves using a different external clock, such as an NTP server."
>
>
> I like this. Let's turn it into a docs-only bug for JDK 9: we can
> still fix those... I will log the issue - unless you prefer to do it?
>
> best regards,
>
> -- daniel
>
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16 May 2017 at 11:59, Daniel Fuchs  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>
>>> Thanks for pointing that out.
>>>
>>> On 16/05/2017 11:27, Stephen Colebourne wrote:


 In JDK 9, the implementation of Clock has been improved to be better
 than millisecond in most cases [1]. However, I've just noticed that
 the Javadoc of the "Implementation Note" is now wrong. It says:

 "The clock implementation provided here is based on
 System.currentTimeMillis(). That method provides little to no
 guarantee about the accuracy of the clock. Applications requiring a
 more accurate clock must implement this abstract class themselves
 using a different external clock, such as an NTP server."

 This needs to be updated to indicate that the implementation is no
 longer based on System.currentTimeMillis(). Since this is an
 "implementation note" I hope that this doesn't affect the
 specification, or need too much process.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Strictly speaking the implementation is based on the *same* clock
>>> than System.currentTimeMillis() is based on. This is very important
>>> as it means that times obtained by System.currentTimeMillis() and
>>> times obtained by the system clock are consistent with each other.
>>>
>>> So I am not sure the note [2] is actually wrong?
>>>
>>> Would the following be a better wording (syntax/grammar may need
>>> correction)?
>>>
>>> <<
>>> The clock implementation provided here is based on the same clock than
>>> System.currentTimeMillis() is based on, but may have a precision finer
>>> than milliseconds if provided by the underlying clock.
>>> However, little to no guarantee is provided about the accuracy of the
>>> underlying clock. Applications requiring a more accurate clock must
>>> implement this abstract class themselves using a different external
>>> clock,
>>> such as an NTP server.
>
>
>>>
>>> best regards,
>>>
>>> -- daniel
>>>
>>> [2] http://download.java.net/java/jdk9/docs/api/java/time/Clock.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

 Is anyone willing to take this up as a JDK 9 bug?

 thanks
 Stephen

 [1] https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8068730

>>>
>


Java-Time Clock Implementation Note

2017-05-16 Thread Stephen Colebourne
In JDK 9, the implementation of Clock has been improved to be better
than millisecond in most cases [1]. However, I've just noticed that
the Javadoc of the "Implementation Note" is now wrong. It says:

"The clock implementation provided here is based on
System.currentTimeMillis(). That method provides little to no
guarantee about the accuracy of the clock. Applications requiring a
more accurate clock must implement this abstract class themselves
using a different external clock, such as an NTP server."

This needs to be updated to indicate that the implementation is no
longer based on System.currentTimeMillis(). Since this is an
"implementation note" I hope that this doesn't affect the
specification, or need too much process.

Is anyone willing to take this up as a JDK 9 bug?

thanks
Stephen

[1] https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8068730