[Courier-imap] shared folders - let users create folder

2008-04-03 Thread thoralf
hi there,

trying to set up shared folders in a way that access rights to them are 
determined based on the users' primary group memberships, i'm currently 
hitting a wall regarding the creation of new folders by said users. i 
just cannot figure out a way to automagically grant access to a folder 
created by user a in a shared folder to user b, which has the same gid 
as user a.

here's what i tried:

- file-based permissions via /etc/courier/maildirshared: no user can 
create any dirs - did i overlook something obvious here?
- virtual shared folders: access rights need to be set explicitly via 
maildiracl. that's awkward ... thunderbird is the mua of choice here, 
and i guess it is not an option to switch to another one which might 
handle imap-acls better. it was hard enough to convince the users here 
to use thunderbird.

i would greatly appreciate any help on how i might solve this issue ...

many thanks,
thoralf.

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Re: [Courier-imap] shared folders - let users create folder

2008-04-03 Thread thoralf
hi again,

having re-read my message, i realised that i didn't wrote that i was 
referring to subfolders of existing shared folders. something like this:

- shared-folder  <-- with r/w access to group foo
   - folder "bar", created by user a

user b, who is a member of the group foo as well, should have full 
access to folder "bar" as well ...

hope this makes my previous message a bit more understandable :-)

with kind regards,
thoralf.

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Re: [Courier-imap] shared folders - let users create folder

2008-04-03 Thread Sam Varshavchik

thoralf writes:


hi there,

trying to set up shared folders in a way that access rights to them are 
determined based on the users' primary group memberships, i'm currently 
hitting a wall regarding the creation of new folders by said users. i 
just cannot figure out a way to automagically grant access to a folder 
created by user a in a shared folder to user b, which has the same gid 
as user a.


here's what i tried:

- file-based permissions via /etc/courier/maildirshared: no user can 
create any dirs - did i overlook something obvious here?


Yes, with file-based permissions folders, you must always use the 
maildirmake command to create any shared folders. You cannot create 
filesystem permissions-based shared folders in any other way.




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Re: [Courier-imap] shared folders - let users create folder

2008-04-04 Thread thoralf
hi Sam,

Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Yes, with file-based permissions folders, you must always use the 
> maildirmake command to create any shared folders. You cannot create 
> filesystem permissions-based shared folders in any other way.
thank you for your answer.

so, file system-based folders are not an option ...

is there a way to set default permissions on virtually shared folders? 
i.e., is it possible to define a default acl for a shared folder that 
will be handed down to all user-created sub-folders underneath this 
shared folder?


if this is not the case, the only thing left i can image to accomplish 
the desired setup would be the following:
- create a specific account for each group that need their own shared 
folder, say shared-group1, shared-group2 etc.
- create a maildir for each of these accounts that will be a container 
holding all the shared dirs for the respective group
- set acl to anyone:aceilrstwx for these folders and finally
- revoke access rights for users not belonging to the group via the file 
system, ie. chown -R :group1 shared-group1/ and chmod -R 770 shared-group1/

now, that would be nasty, wouldn't it?

with kind regards,
thoralf.

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Re: [Courier-imap] shared folders - let users create folder

2008-04-04 Thread Sam Varshavchik

thoralf writes:


hi Sam,

Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Yes, with file-based permissions folders, you must always use the 
maildirmake command to create any shared folders. You cannot create 
filesystem permissions-based shared folders in any other way.

thank you for your answer.

so, file system-based folders are not an option ...

is there a way to set default permissions on virtually shared folders? 
i.e., is it possible to define a default acl for a shared folder that 
will be handed down to all user-created sub-folders underneath this 
shared folder?


A newly-created folder inherits whatever ACLs are set on its parent folder.



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Re: [Courier-imap] shared folders - let users create folder

2008-04-05 Thread thoralf
hi Sam,


Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> A newly-created folder inherits whatever ACLs are set on its parent 
> folder.
these are great news. thank you!

with kind regards,
thoralf.


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