Re: [Coworking] Background Checks
... the signatures of three members who will vouch for them as good fits for membership. Just curious, should the new member mischieve, what would happen to the supporting members. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] Background Checks
I worded that poorly. The supporting members are saying that they trust this person to be a member, they are not guaranteeing it. If the new member violates that trust, I am sure the supporting members would feel badly, but nothing would happen to them. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Marius Amado-Alves amado.al...@gmail.com wrote: ... the signatures of three members who will vouch for them as good fits for membership. Just curious, should the new member mischieve, what would happen to the supporting members. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- twb member, Workantile http://workantile.com/ @twbrandt -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] Background Checks
It's a trust network, not a blame network :) More importantly, the signatures themselves aren't the point. They're an action that someone has to take to get to know people who already care enough to look after the things worth protecting. Even a background check company doesn't have that incentive: the best they can do is tell you about recorded red flags and legal infractions, not that somebody is going to be disrespectful or problematic (which is statistically more likely than having an actual criminal try to JOIN in a long-com operation). Worth noting: we've made tweaks to the signature model since we invented it, the most important being that we make sure that the new keyholder a) gets signatures from outside of their pre-existing circles. This means that for people who become new full time members as part of an existing team who works at Indy Hall, they need to get their sign off from people NOT on their team. We explain to them why the process is in place and everybody has understood and appreciated it b) they need to be able to say who signed their sheet after turning it over to us. Some people were just going around and getting signatures without actually getting to know people. If they can't even remember the name of who signed off on them, the signature doesn't count because they didn't hold up their end of the deal that makes the process work. There's a recent thread in the google group archives where I explained how little ACTUAL overnight/24 hour use happens, but I can't seem to copy the link to that thread form mobile :) if someone else can grab it before I do and post it here that'd be awesome. -- /ah indyhall.org On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Tom Brandt twbra...@gmail.com wrote: I worded that poorly. The supporting members are saying that they trust this person to be a member, they are not guaranteeing it. If the new member violates that trust, I am sure the supporting members would feel badly, but nothing would happen to them. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Marius Amado-Alves amado.al...@gmail.com wrote: ... the signatures of three members who will vouch for them as good fits for membership. Just curious, should the new member mischieve, what would happen to the supporting members. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- twb member, Workantile http://workantile.com/ @twbrandt -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] Background Checks
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: More importantly, the signatures themselves aren't the point. They're an action that someone has to take to get to know people who already care enough to look after the things worth protecting. Exactly! -- twb member, Workantile http://workantile.com/ @twbrandt -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] Background Checks
Back at my computer, here's that recent thread I mentioned: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/IHgBU9UpCDo/Maw_ilGMzqgJ Especially, this post about ACTUAL liability concerns: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/IHgBU9UpCDo/uCmegDpZhesJ -Alex -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[Coworking] Background Checks
We are exploring the possibility of giving members after-hours/keyholder access at Link Coworking. We would like to run a background check on new members looking for access during unstaffed hours. Does anyone have a vendor they recommend? Thanks, Lindsey -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] Background Checks
This seems awfully heavy-handed. Have you have had any issues with after-hours access? On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Lindsey Rima lindseyr...@gmail.com wrote: We are exploring the possibility of giving members after-hours/keyholder access at Link Coworking. We would like to run a background check on new members looking for access during unstaffed hours. Does anyone have a vendor they recommend? Thanks, Lindsey -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- twb member, Workantile http://workantile.com/ @twbrandt -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] Background Checks
Hi Lindsey, We've had key-holding members at Office Nomads ever since we opened in 2007, and have never had a security problem (*knocks on wood*). We've never run a security check in that time either. Why are you considering a security check? I'd point you to one of Alex's recent posts on security in a coworking space - there's way more you can do with building trust amongst the community instead of relying on some third-party to make you feel better: http://dangerouslyawesome.com/2014/07/the-neighborhood-watch-method-for-coworking-space-security/ Susan __ Office Nomads officenomads.com 206-323-6500(o) 206-484-5859(m) On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Lindsey Rima lindseyr...@gmail.com wrote: We are exploring the possibility of giving members after-hours/keyholder access at Link Coworking. We would like to run a background check on new members looking for access during unstaffed hours. Does anyone have a vendor they recommend? Thanks, Lindsey -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] Background Checks
I'm going to echo the sentiments of Tom and Susan. The HiVE has been going for years with 24/7 access for the majority of our members and we only ever had one issue with a tenant that was (unknown to us) technically homeless and was kind of living out of the space. We nipped that in the butt and everything was fine. Background checks sounds heavy-handed, not to mention expensive. Aaron Cruikshank Principal, CRUIKSHANK phone: 778.908.4560 e-mail: aa...@cruikshank.me web: cruikshank.me http://www.cruikshank.me twitter: @cruikshank https://twitter.com/cruikshank book a meeting: doodle.com/cruikshank http://www.doodle.com/cruikshank linkedin: in/cruikshank http://www.linkedin.com/in/cruikshank On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Lindsey Rima lindseyr...@gmail.com wrote: We are exploring the possibility of giving members after-hours/keyholder access at Link Coworking. We would like to run a background check on new members looking for access during unstaffed hours. Does anyone have a vendor they recommend? Thanks, Lindsey -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] Background Checks
At Workantile, all members have 24/7 access. We have electronic locks on the doors and all members have an rfid key that lets them in. When members join, they first do a trial membership during which they do not have keys. We ask them to get to know the community, and the community to get to know them, during that trial, and to get the signatures of three members who will vouch for them as good fits for membership. Assuming they do, they get an rfid key like everyone else. Since going to this method of onboarding members, we have had no problems with members using the space after hours. Typically, people who are not good fits will select themselves out, and very occasionally we have asked a trial member to not come back. The last time I did that was last year, when a trial member was watching hard-core porn on his laptop right in the middle of our big open area where everyone could see what he was watching (srsly dude, wtf?). So rather than doing expensive, intrusive, and frequently unreliable background checks, you might want to try other methods of building trust between your members. On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Aaron Cruikshank aa...@cruikshank.me wrote: I'm going to echo the sentiments of Tom and Susan. The HiVE has been going for years with 24/7 access for the majority of our members and we only ever had one issue with a tenant that was (unknown to us) technically homeless and was kind of living out of the space. We nipped that in the butt and everything was fine. Background checks sounds heavy-handed, not to mention expensive. Aaron Cruikshank Principal, CRUIKSHANK phone: 778.908.4560 e-mail: aa...@cruikshank.me web: cruikshank.me http://www.cruikshank.me twitter: @cruikshank https://twitter.com/cruikshank book a meeting: doodle.com/cruikshank http://www.doodle.com/cruikshank linkedin: in/cruikshank http://www.linkedin.com/in/cruikshank On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Lindsey Rima lindseyr...@gmail.com wrote: We are exploring the possibility of giving members after-hours/keyholder access at Link Coworking. We would like to run a background check on new members looking for access during unstaffed hours. Does anyone have a vendor they recommend? Thanks, Lindsey -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- twb member, Workantile http://workantile.com/ @twbrandt -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
