I see only two CPAN-Testers reports on the server from the many I have sent - what is wrong?

[O. STeffen BEYer]

Dear All,

I have recently installed CPAN::Reporter - after some difficulties, because
of wrong file permissions in this distribution, but that's a different story
(I already informed David Golden about it).

I am currently installing lots of modules under Perl 5.10.1 (native build
for Windows XP with MS VC++ 6.0), mostly through installing Bundles.

How come that the test reports sent by CPAN.pm from my machine never show up
in the "Perl/Platform Version Matrix" of the corresponding modules?

>From 9 reports sent according to "reports-sent.db" in a test run, only two
showed up on the server, namely for Inline-0.45 and YAML-Syck-1.07.

Or is it because test reports from module authors for their own modules are
filtered out? (Not according to my preferences, at least!)

Neither do I see any of these test reports on two separate email accounts
which I both subscribed to the cpan-testers mailing list.

Is that normally the case?

When I subscribed to the cpan-testers mailing list, I didn't get any
"welcome" email back after I sent the confirmation email.

Is that normal, or could that be the problem?

If so, why was my confirmation email disregarded? (Never got any error
message email either)

I am attaching the relevant config files from CPAN and CPAN::Reporter (as
well as my "perl -V" output).

Thank you very much in advance for any help!

Best regards,
-- 
Steffen Beyer 
http://www.engelschall.com/u/sb/whoami/ (Who am I)
http://www.engelschall.com/u/sb/gallery/ (Fotos Brasil, USA, ...)
http://www.engelschall.com/u/sb/download/ (Free Perl and C Software)


CPAN-Testers.tar.gz
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Re: I see only two CPAN-Testers reports on the server from the many I have sent - what is wrong?

[O. STeffen BEYer]

Hello David,

thank you very much for your immediate reply!

Ralf Engelschall (of "mod_rewrite" fame, among other famous projects) uses a
very strict spamfilter on his machine (on which I get my emails to
s...@engelschall.com),
in which even Google mail is blacklisted as a spammer (can you imagine)!
That's probably why your email was rejected.
For the same reason I have already changed the email address in all of my
modules and on CPAN from s...@engelschall.com to st...@cpan.org.
The latter forwards all emails to s...@engelschall.com, but this works because
cpan.org is not blacklisted as a spammer (yet?!).
And anyhow, in this way I can easily change the email address
st...@cpan.orgis forwarding to, in case of need, without the users
even needing to know.

The two reports from me which actually show on the server are the following:

http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2009/10/msg5520288.html
http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2009/10/msg5525770.html

My configuration (perl -V) was also in the attachment "CPAN-Testers.tar.gz"
in my previous email.
As is a list of test reports ("reports-sent.db" from CPAN::Reporter) which
were definitely sent.

BTW, I am aware of the time lag between sending a report and the moment it
is reflected on the server.
But my reports are now over a week old, and still nothing (I checked again
today)!

Interestingly, I found my name among the statistics on the server:

http://stats.cpantesters.org/mtesters.html (search for "kabelfoon" in the
table and you'll find me)

So it seems that the server does indeed know me (and the email address <
sbe...@kabelfoon.nl> I am sending my test reports from, which is from my
provider, which provides me with the SMTP-server necessary to send the
reports).

This apparent contradiction mystifies me!

But yes, maybe the black hole on www.perl.org caused my reports to be
dropped.
That would explain it.

Since this black hole is now supposedly fixed, I will try to re-run some
builds tonight, and we'll see what happens!

In any case, thanks a lot for your support!

Best regards,
Steffen


2009/10/15 David Golden 

> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:20 AM, O. STeffen BEYer 
> wrote:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I have recently installed CPAN::Reporter - after some difficulties,
> because
> > of wrong file permissions in this distribution, but that's a different
> story
> > (I already informed David Golden about it).
>
> See my other response.  :-)
>
> > I am currently installing lots of modules under Perl 5.10.1 (native build
> > for Windows XP with MS VC++ 6.0), mostly through installing Bundles.
> >
> > How come that the test reports sent by CPAN.pm from my machine never show
> up
> > in the "Perl/Platform Version Matrix" of the corresponding modules?
> >
> >
> > From 9 reports sent according to "reports-sent.db" in a test run, only
> two
> > showed up on the server, namely for Inline-0.45 and YAML-Syck-1.07.
>
> Can you send the report ID's for those 2 reports so we can see your
> configuration?  And what are some modules have you tested?  (Be aware
> there can be a multi-day delay before reports appear on the website.)
>
> > When I subscribed to the cpan-testers mailing list, I didn't get any
> > "welcome" email back after I sent the confirmation email.
> >
> > Is that normal, or could that be the problem?
> >
> > If so, why was my confirmation email disregarded? (Never got any error
> > message email either)
>
> It's possibly your emails are or were being flagged as spam for some
> reason.  There was a recent hiccup at the Perl NOC that flagged lots
> of things as spam unintentionally:
> http://log.perl.org/2009/10/blackholes.html
>
> That could be related.
>
> -- David
>

Re: I see only two CPAN-Testers reports on the server from the many I have sent - what is wrong?

[O. STeffen BEYer]

Hi Barbie,

with "[1]", did you mean this table?

StatusMANAGEABLE Time of oldest page request2009-10-10 14:11:09 Total page
requests33597 Total unique page requests11513
If so, then it is absolutely not self-evident from the name "Time of oldest
page request" that this is the NEWEST test report reflected in the tables on
the server, meaning that all test reports younger than that date are not
shown yet (if I understood it right that this is what you meant).

Concerning the 5 day delay; if I am not horribly mistaken, my test reports
are over a week old (from 7th October 2009)!

# Generated by CPAN::Reporter 1.1708
test PASS Inline-0.45 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS YAML-Syck-1.07 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Carp-Clan-6.00 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Bit-Vector-7.1 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Date-Calc-6.0 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Date-Pcalc-6.0 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Data-Locations-5.5 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Math-MatrixBool-5.8 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Set-IntRange-5.2 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1

Thank you very much for your help!

Best regards,
Steffen


2009/10/15 Barbie 

> Hi,
>
> > How come that the test reports sent by CPAN.pm from my machine never
> > show up in the "Perl/Platform Version Matrix" of the corresponding
> > modules?
>
> When did you submit the reports? If you look at the status grid on the
> home page of the CPAN Testers Reports website [1], it has a date which
> is the oldest request in the system that hasn't been processed.
>
> As the site can take over 5 days to do a complete rebuild, it isn't
> unusual for some pages to not appear for several days, particularly if
> it is for a distribution that is not as popular as others.
>
> If after 5 days you still haven't seen the reports listed, send me an
> email with the IDs and I'll investigate.
>
> [1] http://www.cpantesters.org
>
> > Or is it because test reports from module authors for their own
> > modules are filtered out?
>
> No module author has the ability to filter any reports from the system.
>
> > Neither do I see any of these test reports on two separate email
> > accounts which I both subscribed to the cpan-testers mailing list.
>
> The cpan-testers mailing is unattended, and you no longer need to
> subscribe to the list as everyone can post to the list. As such if you
> do not receive an error message, then you have been subscribe
> successfully. The mailing list is now just a post only interface to the
> NNTP list.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Cheers,
> Barbie.
> --
> Birmingham Perl Mongers 
> Memoirs Of A Roadie 
> CPAN Testers Blog 
> YAPC Conference Surveys 
>
>
>

Re: I see only two CPAN-Testers reports on the server from the many I have sent - what is wrong?

[O. STeffen BEYer]

2009/10/16 Barbie 

> Hi Steffen,
>
> > http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2009/10/msg5520288.html
> > http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2009/10/msg5525770.html
>
> The two above are the only ones in the system you've submit for the
> MSWin32 platform, but there are 157 others that are for FreeBSD. Would
> that be correct?
>
> If the others you've highlighted are also for MSWin32, they don't appear
> to have been listed within the NNTP listings. I guess the mails must
> have got blocked.
>
> The ones I've highlighted were indeed from the MSWin32 platform.

As an aside, it is true that I have also sent loads of reports from FreeBSD.

I have resent those from the MSWin32 platform yesterday evening:

# Generated by CPAN::Reporter 1.1708
test PASS Carp-Clan-6.00 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Bit-Vector-7.1 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Date-Calc-6.0 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Date-Pcalc-6.0 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Data-Locations-5.5 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Math-MatrixBool-5.8 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Set-IntRange-5.2 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Date-Calc-6.1 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1

Let's see what happens with them now.

Cheers,
> Barbie.
> --
> Birmingham Perl Mongers 
> Memoirs Of A Roadie 
> CPAN Testers Blog 
> YAPC Conference Surveys 
>
>
>

Re: I see only two CPAN-Testers reports on the server from the many I have sent - what is wrong?

[O. STeffen BEYer]

Just an intermediate update:

Some of the test reports I sent yesterday night are already visible, others
not (why?).

In particular, I sent:

# Generated by CPAN::Reporter 1.1708
test PASS Carp-Clan-6.00 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Bit-Vector-7.1 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Date-Calc-6.0 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Date-Pcalc-6.0 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Data-Locations-5.5 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Math-MatrixBool-5.8 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Set-IntRange-5.2 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Date-Calc-6.1 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Date-Pcalc-6.1 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1

Of these, the following are visible:

http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2009/10/msg5607338.html(Date::Calc
6.0) - also in
[ Perl/Platform Version
Matrix ]

http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2009/10/msg5607375.html(Date::Calc
6.1)

Note that these are THE ONLY ONES AT ALL I could find. The ones from more
than a week ago have never appeared!

Something is eating our data!

Certainly, if the software was able to extract the Perl version from the two
reports above, then it should have been able to do so also on the others -
presuming that the other reports would not be any different in that respect,
coming from exactly the same Perl, the same CPAN::Reporter, and the very
same CPAN.pm session!

Regards & have a nice weekend!
Steffen


2009/10/16 Slaven Rezic 

> Barbie  writes:
>
> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 06:32:57PM -0400, M W487 wrote:
> >> Basically at random, I decided to track some reports I have sent and
> >> see how they turn up.  Most look good.  Here is a possible problem:
> >>
> >>
> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2009/10/msg5477314.html
> >>
> >> tested a cygwin platform for perl 5.8.8 on Oct 3 which does not show
> >> in the cygwin column of the chart at
> >>
> >> http://matrix.cpantesters.org/?dist=DBIx-Class+0.08112
> >
> > Note that the matrix and the main reports site are two different
> > systems. Although Slaven uses the feeds from the reports site. However,
> > the report you mention is on the reports site and is in the DB. The only
> > oddity, which might cause it to not appear in the matrix listing, is
> > that it has a perl version of 0.
>
> Yes, this is very probably the case. I filter out every record with a
> zero perl version or os name.
>
> > This is due to the automated process
> > not being able to extract the perl version from the report itself.
>
> Regards,
>Slaven
>
> --
> Slaven Rezic - slaven  rezic  de
>
>tkrevdiff - graphical display of diffs between revisions (RCS, CVS or
> SVN)
>http://ptktools.sourceforge.net/#tkrevdiff
>

Re: I see only two CPAN-Testers reports on the server from the many I have sent - what is wrong?

[O. STeffen BEYer]

So this means that truncation cannot explain why almost all of my test
reports from last week disappeared:
I installed Test::Reporter and CPAN::Reporter only days before sending, so
they should be up to date.
But maybe perl.org's blackhole really was the cause.

> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Barbie  wrote:
> > > Not necessarily. If the report exceeds the byte limit it gets
> truncated.
> > > All the perl -V data is at the end, which is the primary source of
> > > discovery for the perl version. Note this is a limit of the NNTP mail
> > > server, and one reason why we want to move to a HTTP submission based
> > > system.
>


> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:48:49AM -0400, David Golden wrote:
> > That shouldn't be an issue with CPAN::Reporter based submissions, as
> > long as it and Test::Reporter are up to date.  CPAN::Reporter
> > truncates test output (*not* Perl -V) to fit within the perl.org size
> > cutoff and it now properly encodes/wraps long lines to avoid exceeding
> > SMTP line length limits that were causing truncations and other
> > problems.
> > Do you have any recent examples?
>

2009/10/16 Barbie 

> Yes, but I didn't want to name names, hence my other post :)
> However, I also note that I don't have the latest version of
> CPAN-Testers-Common-Article on the server, github or CPAN :( I shall fix
> that over the weekend, as that does do some additional detection work if
> perl -V isn't found.
> Cheers,
> Barbie.
>

Re: Update Request

[O. STeffen BEYer]

2009/10/16 David Golden 

> Current minimum targets:
>
>  'Test::Reporter'  => 1.54,
>  'CPAN::Reporter'  => 1.1708,
>  'CPANPLUS'=> 0.8601,
>

That's precisely what I have:

 'Test::Reporter'  => 1.54,
 'CPAN::Reporter'  => 1.1708,
 'CPAN' => 1.9402

CPAN ftp servers down?

[O. STeffen BEYer]

Hi all,

I am having troubles running CPAN today with only Net::FTP (no LWP
installed).

When I try to ftp ftp.funet.fi or ftp ftp.perl.org on the commandline, I get
a confirmation that it connected, then "connection reset by peer" after some
60 seconds or so.

C:\Temp>ftp ftp.funet.fi
Verbindung mit ftp.funet.fi wurde hergestellt.
Verbindung beendet durch Remotehost.

C:\Temp>ftp ftp.perl.org
Verbindung mit ftp.cpan.ddns.develooper.com wurde hergestellt.
Verbindung beendet durch Remotehost.

Also ftp://ftp.perl.org/pub/CPAN/modules/02packages.details.txt.gz and
ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/02packages.details.txt.gzin
FIREFOX
seem to hang as well.

Are these two servers down for everybody, or is it just me?

Thanks! :-)

Best regards,
Steffen

Re: CPAN ftp servers down?

[O. STeffen BEYer]

Hi Barbie,

I was able to solve the problem in the meantime (after spending 45 minutes
waiting on my provider's hotline - only to discover the solution myself at
the very moment I was being attended to!):

I had stopped and disabled the service "Windows Firewall / Internet
Connection Sharing (ICS)", as had been suggested to me by F-Secure earlier
for an unrelated problem (F-Secure's ORSP service is crashing all the time),
but for a reason unknown to me it sprang out of its "grave" and was active
again.
After I stopped and disabled it again, everything worked fine.
I only hope it does not become active again every time I boot the computer!
:-(

In any case, thank you all very much for your kind support!

Best regards,
Steffen Beyer


2009/10/23 Barbie 

> Hi Steffen,
>
> > Also ftp://ftp.perl.org/pub/CPAN/modules/02packages.details.txt.gz and
> >
> ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/02packages.details.txt.gzin
> > FIREFOX
> > seem to hang as well.
> >
> > Are these two servers down for everybody, or is it just me?
>
> Both are working for me :)
>
> Cheers,
> Barbie.
> --
> Birmingham Perl Mongers 
> Memoirs Of A Roadie 
> CPAN Testers Blog 
> YAPC Conference Surveys 
>
>
>

Re: C library installation request

[O. STeffen BEYer]

Dear Craig,

for what it's worth, I have just installed "mm" on "my" machine (actually
one of Ralf Engelschall's machines, by happenstance - Ralf is the author of
"mm"!) running FreeBSD 7.2-stable and installed IPC::MMA successfully with
CPAN.pm (passed all tests). You should see the CPAN::Reporter report on
CPAN::Testers soon.

Hope this helps. :-)

Best regards,
Steffen Beyer


2009/11/4 

> Hello CPAN testers,
>
> About a month ago I asked on the CPAN authors list why my module IPC::MMA
> wasn't getting more test reports, despite the fact that I had reworked its
> Makefile.PL to output a message about the need for a required C library that
> I don't have the right to include with IPC::MMA.  David Golden sent a nice
> response:
>
>  Most automated smoke testing will just quietly exit and continue. The
>> testers will never see the prompt.  This is generally how automated testers
>> like it (though there are exceptions).  Stopping at every Nth module to
>> figure out how to resolve someone's custom dependency takes extra time that
>> donating some CPU cycles to the testing effort does not.
>>
>> NOTE --> "exit 0" means that *no* report is sent.  Not even an UNKNOWN.
>>  This is just like what happens with Perl prerequisites.  If a prerequisite
>> can't be satisfied, then no report is sent.
>>
>> I think the most effective thing that will lead to more test reports is
>> asking people to install libmm.  That's best done via personal appeal on the
>> cpan-testers-discuss or on #cpantesters-discuss on irc.perl.org.  That
>> means work for someone who maintains multiple virtual machines, so ask
>> nicely.  ;-)
>>
>
>
> Asking nicely is something I don't have much experience with, but this is
> my attempt.
>
> The mm library, which is a non-CPAN prerequisite for IPC::MMA, is quite
> easy to download and install from http://www.ossp.org/pkg/lib/mm/
>
> Almost certainly, none of you will have any problem with downloading and
> installing mm.  mm only applies to Unix/Linux systems, so Windows-based
> testers should ignore this message.
>
> A few days from now I will upload a new IPC::MMA 0.58001, that will be
> available to your test systems in the near future.  The main change is that
> it uses /dev/urandom rather than /dev/random for testing, so that it should
> run its tests faster than previous versions.
>
> So, might it be possible that you could please find time sometime in your
> busy schedule to install the mm library on your test system(s)?
> Historically only two testers have had mm on their systems, now 3 including
> David Golden.
>
> One or two residual problems remain with the current 0.58, that may or not
> be the fault of my module.
> If you could please install mm, the test results would be very helpful to
> provide additional data on these.
>
> Thank you very much,
> Craig MacKenna
> Los Gatos, CA
>
>