Re: democratizing some of my dists

[Olivier Mengué]

2015-11-14 1:59 GMT+01:00 Ricardo Signes :

> * Kent Fredric  [2015-11-13T19:00:36]
> > On 14 November 2015 at 12:50, James E Keenan  wrote:
> > > doesn't that mean that its ownership is already democratized?
> >
> > Not fully until he gives somebody else publish bits.
>
> In democracies, not every citizen can send the army to war.
>
>
Well, in the current times, some are tempted to call a few "citizens" of a
pseudo country an army bringing a war.


Olivier Mengué, from Paris.

Re: democratizing some of my dists

[Alberto Simoes]

On 13/11/15 16:16, Ricardo Signes wrote:

I have a number of distributions that are in use by other people where either:

1) I don't use it anymore or
2) I am mostly uninterested in proposed changes

I've quietly put some of these libraries up for adoption.  Some, though, I want
to keep an eye on, at least until I feel totally confident in just letting go.
One of these is Software-License.  It has a number of pull requests and issues,
and honestly I look at the list and feel mostly nothing.  Alternately:  I am
happy to collaborate on this project, and to try to keep it moving, but I am
not happy to by the only point of contact.

I would like to run the distribution a bit more democratically.   I'm not sure
how I want to do this in general, so I am going to screw around with how things
work, but will do so as little as I feel comfortable with, at least after a
turbulent start.

Here's what I'm thinking:  get around some people who are interested, who will
*at least* read issues/PRs and give them +1 or -1 or ±0.  We'll go from there.
I will remain tyrant until I feel good about letting go, which I hope will
happen soon, and then I'll move on to replicating the setup.

Let me know if you are interested in helping with this work.  Thanks!


Where is the list? :)

Thans

Re: democratizing some of my dists

[Ricardo Signes]

* Alberto Simoes  [2015-11-13T11:19:13]
> Where is the list? :)

https://github.com/Perl-Toolchain-Gang/Software-License

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Re: democratizing some of my dists

[Ricardo Signes]

* Ricardo Signes  [2015-11-13T11:16:14]
> I would like to run the distribution a bit more democratically.   I'm not
> sure how I want to do this in general, so I am going to screw around with how
> things work, but will do so as little as I feel comfortable with, at least
> after a turbulent start.
> 
> Here's what I'm thinking:  get around some people who are interested, who
> will *at least* read issues/PRs and give them +1 or -1 or ±0.  We'll go from
> there.  I will remain tyrant until I feel good about letting go, which I hope
> will happen soon, and then I'll move on to replicating the setup.

I've been asked to post a clarification:

My real goal is not to clear out the issue list for Software-License.  That is
incidental.  My main goal here is to establish a precedent for migrating some
of my code into group governance.

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Re: democratizing some of my dists

[Ricardo Signes]

* "David E. Wheeler"  [2015-11-13T14:41:55]
> Can you do that for some of my modules, too? :-)

When I end up with something that I think works, you can have a copy of the
charter. ;)

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Re: democratizing some of my dists

[Ricardo Signes]

* Kent Fredric  [2015-11-13T19:00:36]
> On 14 November 2015 at 12:50, James E Keenan  wrote:
> > doesn't that mean that its ownership is already democratized?
> 
> Not fully until he gives somebody else publish bits.

In democracies, not every citizen can send the army to war.

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Re: democratizing some of my dists

[Ricardo Signes]

* James E Keenan  [2015-11-13T18:50:37]
> On 11/13/2015 12:38 PM, Ricardo Signes wrote:
> >* Alberto Simoes  [2015-11-13T11:19:13]
> >>Where is the list? :)
> >
> >https://github.com/Perl-Toolchain-Gang/Software-License
> 
> If this library is already under Perl-Toolchain-Gang, doesn't that mean that
> its ownership is already democratized?

No, see the recent thread about EUMM.  P-T-G is a repository of convenience,
not a governance board.

( http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.workers/2015/11/msg1327.html )

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Re: democratizing some of my dists

[Kent Fredric]

On 14 November 2015 at 12:50, James E Keenan  wrote:
> doesn't that mean that its ownership is already democratized?


Not fully until he gives somebody else publish bits.

Software::License,RJBS,f
Software::License::AGPL_3,RJBS,f
Software::License::AGPL_3::or_later,VDB,f
Software::License::Apache_1_1,RJBS,f
Software::License::Apache_2_0,RJBS,f
...

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Kent

KENTNL - https://metacpan.org/author/KENTNL