Re: Jim Bell Trial: Fourth Day (fwd)
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Ken Brown wrote: > >> Leen told Tanner that all of Bell's discovery notes were at Seatac; that >> Seatac would not release the notes without a court order, and that the counsellor >> who would release the notes doesn't work on the weekend. Leen asked for >> an opportunity to recover the notes. Tanner refused. > >Is this normal in US courts? Is it as biased and unfair as it sounds on >the face of it? This was not normal in US courts a few years ago. It's been downhill, basically, since RICO was passed by the Reagan administration. Fear has come to dominate law in US courts, and I am extremely unhappy about that. Bear
Re: CDR: Re: Jim Bell Trial: Fourth Day (fwd)
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Ken Brown wrote: > > Leen told Tanner that all of Bell's discovery notes were at Seatac; that > > Seatac would not release the notes without a court order, and that the counsellor > > who would release the notes doesn't work on the weekend. Leen asked for > > an opportunity to recover the notes. Tanner refused. > > Is this normal in US courts? Totally normal. > Is it as biased and unfair as it sounds on > the face of it? Yes. This is one of the reasons the Fedz are so terrified of AP... -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: Jim Bell Trial: Fourth Day (fwd)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Fourth Day: Jim Bell Trial > [...] > London asked Gordon if he carried a gun. Gordon replied that he did. London: > "Why are you afraid of this guy? You're carrying a gun and he isn't." > "He's strongly advocated the assassination of IRS agents." Gordon also > cited Bell's chemistry background, the fact that he went to MIT Having been to MIT is evidence that someone is a threat? Knowing about science is reason to suspect someone of crime? All over the world geeks & nerds and stereotyped sad men in short-sleeved shirts with pens in their top pockets are trembling with glee. Hey, we're *dangerous* ! Someone takes us seriously! Federal agents are scared of us! All those long evenings of staying up late playing D&D and listening to "Bat out of Hell" and watching Arnie videos and finally someone realises that we are seriously scary! Hey, I was at the Durham University Botany department in the mid-1970s. *And* I'm doing a course in microbiology right now. Look on my lab reports ye mighty, and despair! Oh, and Mr. Agent, you wouldn't believe what I know about degenerating gradient gel electrophoresis that you don't. I've got an Eppendorf and I know how to use it! [...] > Leen told Tanner that all of Bell's discovery notes were at Seatac; that > Seatac would not release the notes without a court order, and that the counsellor > who would release the notes doesn't work on the weekend. Leen asked for > an opportunity to recover the notes. Tanner refused. Is this normal in US courts? Is it as biased and unfair as it sounds on the face of it? [...] Ken Brown
