Re: OPT: UCITA & Cypherpunks - We got a plan...

2001-04-11 Thread Declan McCullagh

No, I'm not accusing Jim Choate of being an IRS undercover agent, just 
a twit. :)

I wrote articles. Cypherpunks write code. Jim Choate writes procmail
recipies to add CDR: to every Subject: line.

-Declan


On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 07:56:40AM -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
> Declan, all those cc:'s bounced. Did you enjoy it?
> 
> On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
> 
> > Old motto: "Cypherpunks write code"
> > New motto: "Cypherpunks lobby in state capitols, craft
> > 'appropriate' policy responses, and identify
> > 'key players' for 'maximum bang for the buck'"
> 
> We still write code and much more, look at the growing CDR for an example.
> We're just not silly enough to believe code alone will change the world.
> 
> > Old cypherpunk: Hacker, programmer, coder, sysadmin, engineer
> > New cypherpunk: IRS undercover agent, state lobbyist, Jim Choate
> 
> ROFLMAO...
> 
> He don't know me very well do he? If I'm an agent then I have a major
> complaint, all my checks are late. I quit.
> 
> Old cypherpunks: money hungry and predatory - Declan
> 
> 
> 
>To speak algebraically, Mr. M. is execrable, but Mr. G. is
>(x+1)-ecrable.
>  Edgar Allan Poe
> 
>The Armadillo Group   ,::;::-.  James Choate
>Austin, Tx   /:'/ ``::>/|/  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>www.ssz.com.',  `/( e\  512-451-7087
>-~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
> 




Re: OPT: UCITA & Cypherpunks - We got a plan...

2001-04-11 Thread Jim Choate


Declan, all those cc:'s bounced. Did you enjoy it?

On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:

> Old motto: "Cypherpunks write code"
> New motto: "Cypherpunks lobby in state capitols, craft
> 'appropriate' policy responses, and identify
> 'key players' for 'maximum bang for the buck'"

We still write code and much more, look at the growing CDR for an example.
We're just not silly enough to believe code alone will change the world.

> Old cypherpunk: Hacker, programmer, coder, sysadmin, engineer
> New cypherpunk: IRS undercover agent, state lobbyist, Jim Choate

ROFLMAO...

He don't know me very well do he? If I'm an agent then I have a major
complaint, all my checks are late. I quit.

Old cypherpunks: money hungry and predatory - Declan



   To speak algebraically, Mr. M. is execrable, but Mr. G. is
   (x+1)-ecrable.
 Edgar Allan Poe

   The Armadillo Group   ,::;::-.  James Choate
   Austin, Tx   /:'/ ``::>/|/  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   www.ssz.com.',  `/( e\  512-451-7087
   -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-






Re: OPT: UCITA & Cypherpunks - We got a plan...

2001-04-11 Thread Declan McCullagh

Old motto: "Cypherpunks write code"
New motto: "Cypherpunks lobby in state capitols, craft
'appropriate' policy responses, and identify
'key players' for 'maximum bang for the buck'"


Old cypherpunk: Hacker, programmer, coder, sysadmin, engineer
New cypherpunk: IRS undercover agent, state lobbyist, Jim Choate



On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 09:23:01PM -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
> Well, actually it's a plan to make a plan ;)
> 
> We intend the following:
> 
> - Identify the several bills (UCITA, UEITA, etc.) that are currently
>   in the Texas legislature for consideration. We believe this count
>   is currently at five (5).
> 
> - Identify pro and con sources of information.
> 
> - Identify pro and con members of the legislature.
> 
> - Compare and contrast the various 'positions' and develop an
>   appropriate 'cypherpunk' responce.
> 
> - Begin an information campaign that will hit both the traditional
>   and alternative media in Texas, in particular in the
>   major cities (ie Houston, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio,
>   and El Paso).
> 
>   We discussed letters to media as well as a potential video.
> 
> - Identify each of the steps that the bills will need to go
>   through in their consideration in the legislature. The
>   intent is to identify 'key players' who can be contacted
>   for maximum 'bang for the buck' so to speak.
> 
> - Develop a presentation and arrange appointments with legislators
>   to attempt an 'education campaign'.
> 
> - Pray for deliverance from the pestilence of God-$ (not that
>   Cypherpunks have any objection to making money, it's the now)
> 
> To help resolve these issues, in addition to the monthly Cypherpunk get
> together, we will institute a bi-weekly meeting to work further on these
> goals. I will be making the meeting location and time announcements on the
> Austin Cypherpunks and ucita-tx mailing lists only!
> 
> We also intend to 'beef up' the SSZ homepage. One idea was to create a
> 'bulletin board' (eg WWWBoard) so that interested parties could
> participate in a more long-lived manner than a simple mailing list.
> 
> We also intend to re-write the 'form letter' on the 'Fight UCITA in
> Texas!' webpage. The feeling was that it was too long and not as well
> worded as it needed to be.
> 
> Currently the mailing lists and resources are:
> 
> Austin Cypherpunks
> http://einstein.ssz.com/cdr
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (closed to outside submissions)
> 
> UCITA-TX Mailing List
> http://einstein.ssz.com/ucita
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (closed to outside submissions)
> Note that the mailing list itself is non-partisan. The same can't be
> said for the webpage and most certainly not the cpunks.
> 
> Ta ta.
> 
> 
> 
>To speak algebraically, Mr. M. is execrable, but Mr. G. is
>(x+1)-ecrable.
>  Edgar Allan Poe
> 
>The Armadillo Group   ,::;::-.  James Choate
>Austin, Tx   /:'/ ``::>/|/  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>www.ssz.com.',  `/( e\  512-451-7087
>-~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
>