[CREATE] open source node compositor

2009-10-08 Thread Est
Hi all!

I'm developing an open source node compositor.
It is in a very early stage, but development is
fast, and with some help it could be a complete
app in the future.

It is here, http://ramenhdr.sourceforge.net/

I'd like any feedback on things you like / dislike, future ideas and
possible ways of inter-operation between Ramen and other free apps.

Of course, contributions are welcome.

Sorry if off-topic.

Thank you!

Est.
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Re: [CREATE] open source node compositor

2009-10-08 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Thursday 08 October 2009, Est wrote:
 Hi all!
 
 I'm developing an open source node compositor.
 It is in a very early stage, but development is
 fast, and with some help it could be a complete
 app in the future.
 
 It is here, http://ramenhdr.sourceforge.net/
 
 I'd like any feedback on things you like / dislike, future ideas and
 possible ways of inter-operation between Ramen and other free apps.
 
 Of course, contributions are welcome.
 
 Sorry if off-topic.

Interesting! One possible issue is that ampasctl isn't license compatible with 
gpl -- you might want to investigate openctl instead: 
http://opengtl.org/CTL.html.

-- 
Boudewijn Rempt | http://www.valdyas.org
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Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-08 Thread Jon A. Cruz

On Oct 7, 2009, at 12:17 AM, Christoph Schäfer wrote:

 Since you are aware of of my (strictly personal) distaste for Gnome,  
 I won't
 comment any further, except that we seemed to agree at some point  
 that the
 Gnome/GTK+ file dialogs are a PITA ;P

Just a minor data point. With Inkscape on Win32 we are seeing about  
half the users who really want the Gnome/GTK+ file dialogs, and half  
who want the native Windows ones. I think this is one point where user  
preference is good, since different users have different needs and  
even different ways of mentally processing information.

I'd wager that the Qt dialogs are better for some people too, and that  
we might even see an even spread of user preference. Whereas  
overwhelming people with options is perhaps suboptimal, generally at  
least some choice is good.
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Re: [CREATE] SVG Import/Export (was Re: Create projects)

2009-10-08 Thread Christoph Schäfer
Am Freitag, 9. Oktober 2009 05:34:08 schrieb Yuval Levy:
 Danke fuer die Erklaerungen, Christoph.

Aber gerne doch :)


 Christoph Schäfer wrote:
  Scribus is primarily designed for creating print-ready PDF and PostScript
  files, which means, among others, that it doesn't have to support the
  whole SVG standard (e.g. the animation part).

 this explains to me why some of the features (e.g. animations) are not
 editable in Scribus.

 wouldn't it be possible to simply hide those parts of the document
 that can't be edited (e.g. for an animation, just show the first frame,
 or, better, show the one single frame specified by the animation program
 as being the master frame - may require some changes in the specs
 and/or in the animation program, but will result in better
 interoperability). But keep them in the file, i.e. load and save them
 along.

It isn't and probably never will be, as SVG data (just like any other imported 
vector data) are converted to the Scribus graphics model, which is the only 
way to make sure that we can export to PDF/PS reliably (and as of now there 
are still some corner cases that don't work 100% correctly).


 I understand the devil lies in the detail, and the difference of purpose
   of the different tools has consequences on the support of file formats
 and functionalities. And I am sure you thought of such strategies as
 graceful degradation in this context.

One thing one has to be aware of is that at least in terms of the creative 
process aimed at printed output, DTP is at the end of the creative food 
chain. In other words, a DTP program needs to be able to _import_ bitmap and 
vector files, as well as (formatted) text, including text styles. It also has 
to provide a wide set of typographical features. At the same time, a good DTP 
program must be able to hand over reliable _output_ to a printing company. 
This includes a more than robust font support (including quality checks) and 
also colour management.

I'm not sure if I was able to demonstrate the wide range of issues we're 
facing, but please believe me that full SVG support is not on top of the list 
of priorities, especially since SVG is everything but an established standard 
for vector files in common print workflows. Full support of advanced OpenType 
features, support for complex Asian scripts and many more requirements of 
professional typesetting are much more important, not to mention the next 
generation of colour managment and export to more PDF/X versions. And since 
Scribus is cross-platform, we also have to deal with legacy formats like PICT 
for Mac OS (done) or MET for OS/2 and eComStation (not yet done).


  Go ask Quark or Corel for specs of their file formats ;)

 or Canon, Nikon, SONY. Nobody's perfect, but we can try to strive to be
 slightly better than the pack.

Of course, and we have to be grateful to those who take the time to 
reverse-engineer the formats whose specs aren't available!


 Thanks again for the explanation and have a good weekend.

Same to you!

Christoph
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