[CREATE] LGM2010: Stuff that you liked and stuff not

[Marcos Diaz]

Things I liked:
-People helps you if you have problems.
-Free coffee!
-Wifi everywhere.
-A lot of energy plugs.
-OpenRaster and OpenDWG.

Things I disliked:
-Tiny badgets (was easy to ask people names than read it), I prefer neck
straps IDs.
-Uncentered projector.
-Small conference hall (I understand this year participation exceeded all
expectations).
-My talk!
-Brussels food.

I want to know yours!


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Re: [CREATE] [LGF] A name !

[Robert Martinez]

I can imagine there is a problem with "artists"; there are many that 
would consider themselves more as coders (even if coding is an art, too 
:P) I guess.



On 05/30/2010 09:20 PM, Marcos Diaz wrote:

Why not something short and concise like "Libre Artists"

In addition libreartists.org  (and .net .com 
.info) are available



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Re: [CREATE] [LGF] A name !

[Marcos Diaz]

I would expect an ORGanization of libre artists, but I understand the point
about a more official/corporative/governamental name, I agree.

But I think is better to keep it short and avoid names like:
"FreeAndOpenSoftwareToCreateGraphicsWithLibreToolsAndEnviromentsOrganization"
that nobody remember after 5 secons.


2010/5/30 Gregory Pittman 

> On 05/30/2010 09:20 PM, Marcos Diaz wrote:
>
>> Why not something short and concise like "Libre Artists"
>>
>> In addition libreartists.org  (and .net .com
>> .info) are available
>>
>
> Something to keep in mind, which was discussed at the meeting the other day
> is that there is a lot to the name. The idea was to have a name with
> suggests some official capacity, some resource for not only the various
> projects, but also users, individual users of course, but also collective
> commercial users like some corporation or maybe even governmental
> organization to look to for help in adopting FOSS in whatever graphics
> workflow(s) they may engage in. Finally, one must have a name which has some
> intuitive meaning for potential donation sources.
>
> Not necessarily an argument against libreartists, but what would someone
> expect from an organization with a website named libreartists.org?
>
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Re: [CREATE] [LGF] A name !

[Robert Martinez]

Depending on whether audio projects (or other things like fabbing) will 
be welcome the "graphics" may be a bad idea.


Is this going to be graphics only?

I do think "libre" & "foundation" sound and work well.



On 05/30/2010 11:39 AM, Camille Bissuel wrote:

Hi all,

"Libre graphics Foundation (LGF)" is our working name now...
here are the suggestions so far :
- Obvious and natural choice seem to be "Libre graphics" (to decline), 
but we don't have the .org domain. Louis may encounter the domain 
owner to ask him to give it to us.

- we have suggested "Create Fundation" during the BoF
- Alessandro suggested "Create Lab" too, a he have a .org domain to share.

we discussed too that "Libre graphics foundation" is a bit too long... 
and a shorter name would be better for an url.
we may have to decline the name too... : maybe one day there will be a 
"Libre graphics Network" or other similar declinaisons.


Please suggest and vote !
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Re: [CREATE] [LGF] A name !

[Gregory Pittman]

On 05/30/2010 09:20 PM, Marcos Diaz wrote:

Why not something short and concise like "Libre Artists"

In addition libreartists.org  (and .net .com
.info) are available


Something to keep in mind, which was discussed at the meeting the other 
day is that there is a lot to the name. The idea was to have a name with 
suggests some official capacity, some resource for not only the various 
projects, but also users, individual users of course, but also 
collective commercial users like some corporation or maybe even 
governmental organization to look to for help in adopting FOSS in 
whatever graphics workflow(s) they may engage in. Finally, one must have 
a name which has some intuitive meaning for potential donation sources.


Not necessarily an argument against libreartists, but what would someone 
expect from an organization with a website named libreartists.org?


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Re: [CREATE] [LGF] A name !

[Marcos Diaz]

...and libreart.org too

2010/5/30 Marcos Diaz 

> Why not something short and concise like "Libre Artists"
>
> In addition libreartists.org (and .net .com .info) are available
>


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Re: [CREATE] [LGF] A name !

[Marcos Diaz]

Why not something short and concise like "Libre Artists"

In addition libreartists.org (and .net .com .info) are available


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[CREATE] hello goodbye

[agnez]

hi LGMers,
I just subscribed to this list after 4 inspiring and energetic days.
I didn't have the chance to say goodbye to everyone i would have liked so
i send my greetings here. I already miss you people ..
I'm grateful that LGM tool place in BXL, thanks for organizing it here.
Hopefully I can get a little involved in the future.
cheers
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Re: [CREATE] [LGF] A name !

[Jon Phillips]

Yes, Create would be cool so we could encompass more than just graphics.

Jon

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Camille Bissuel  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> "Libre graphics Foundation (LGF)" is our working name now...
> here are the suggestions so far :
> - Obvious and natural choice seem to be "Libre graphics" (to decline), but
> we don't have the .org domain. Louis may encounter the domain owner to ask
> him to give it to us.
> - we have suggested "Create Fundation" during the BoF
> - Alessandro suggested "Create Lab" too, a he have a .org domain to share.
>
> we discussed too that "Libre graphics foundation" is a bit too long... and a
> shorter name would be better for an url.
> we may have to decline the name too... : maybe one day there will be a
> "Libre graphics Network" or other similar declinaisons.
>
> Please suggest and vote !
> -- yagraph
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[CREATE] Conference 2011

[P Papadeas]

We created the wiki page about the LGM 2011 [1]
Jump in and edit the pages :)

[1] http://create.freedesktop.org/wiki/Conference_2011

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Re: [CREATE] [LGF] A name !

[helen varley jamieson]

there is a "creative freedom foundation" 
(http://creativefreedom.org.nz/), "freedom to create" 
)http://www.freedomtocreate.com/) & i imagine there plenty of other 
similarly named organisations.


"libre graphics" is maybe more unique .. ?

h : )

On 30/05/10 11:51 AM, John Haltiwanger wrote:

I thought the following might be a nice way to go:

Free to Create (or Free2Create) Foundation
Create Freedom Foundation

Just a thought :)

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Camille Bissuel 
mailto:cbiss...@yagraph.org>> wrote:


Hi all,

"Libre graphics Foundation (LGF)" is our working name now...
here are the suggestions so far :
- Obvious and natural choice seem to be "Libre graphics" (to
decline), but we don't have the .org domain. Louis may encounter
the domain owner to ask him to give it to us.
- we have suggested "Create Fundation" during the BoF
- Alessandro suggested "Create Lab" too, a he have a .org domain
to share.

we discussed too that "Libre graphics foundation" is a bit too
long... and a shorter name would be better for an url.
we may have to decline the name too... : maybe one day there will
be a "Libre graphics Network" or other similar declinaisons.

Please suggest and vote !
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[CREATE] icc functionalty in ghostscript, guinea pigs wanted :-), and other LGM stuff

[Hin-Tak Leung]

Hi,

We do have a regression test system where we test evey commit against
about 11GB of ps/pdf/pcl/pcl x1/svg/xps data we collected over the years (I 
think the ghostscript people probably have one of the largest collection of 
strange and wonderful ps/pdf... files) for rendering issues, but since this is 
a fairly major change which took us 18 months to do, we'd really like somebody 
try to break it...

So the slides are on (which includes a fair bit of other info I didn't have 
time to go into), and a windows binary and a source snapshot: 

http://www.ghostscript.com/~hintak/LGM_Brussels2010_Ghostscript.pdf
http://www.ghostscript.com/~hintak/GS872W32-icc-r11301.exe
http://www.ghostscript.com/~hintak/gs-r11331-post-icc-r11306-merge+tt.tar.gz

Please feel free to throw any strange and winderful postscript/pdf files 
against it.

I'll possibly keep doing snapshots from time to time where time permits...
and of course people can go bleeding-edge with svn. 

It has been fun to be in LGM, and meeting some of the most interesting people 
(including tight-pants man Eric!).

I filed two bugs against a file I got yesterday from one of you:
http://bugs.ghostscript.com/show_bug.cgi?id=691352
http://bugs.ghostscript.com/show_bug.cgi?id=691353

The W3C guys asked about ghostsvg, which does exist - it is part of ghostpdl 
(which started its life as ghostpcl for pcl andpcl xl then due to +xps and 
+svg, got renamed) and you can get it from the the ghostscript web site.

Hin-Tak


  
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Re: [CREATE] [LGF]Libre Graphics Whatever - charter prototype - about the name

[Gregory Pittman]

On 05/29/2010 06:27 PM, Andreas Vox wrote:

Hi!

After the discussion we had today at LGM about creating an Libre
Graphics Foundation or similar, I'd like to make a proposal for the
charter. I've concentrated on aims and membership, not procedures. As an
umbrella organization, it should concentrate on connecting people and
organizing partnerships between its members. The member organizations
would actually carry out the projects. This would also keep costs and
membership fees to a minimum.

Ok, I'm expecting comments!

/Andreas




0 Libre Graphics

Libre Graphics is a term that describes the idea that people use floss
tools to create and distribute free content. (needs expanding)

1 Name
The name of the organization is Libre Graphics Network (TBD)
Network seems a bit bland and ambiguous to me. I think it's worth trying 
to generate a number of possibilities, some admittedly not very good, 
yet sometimes bad ideas lead to unexpected better ideas.
So if we begin to think of possible words which might fit into a 
framework like 'Libre Graphics X', here are some of my idease for X:


Affiliation; Amalgamation; Assembly (or Assemblage - a legitimate 
English word); Association; Cartel; Chamber; Coalition; Commission; 
Committee; Confederation; Confluence; Congress; Consortium; Convergence; 
Cooperative; Council; Ensemble; Enterprise; Family; Fellowship; Forum; 
Foundation; Fraternity; Gang; Group; Guild; Harmony; Institute; League; 
Legion; Mob; Nexus; Partnership; Posse; Service; Society; Squad; 
Syndicate; Tribe; Troupe; Union; Unity


Again, these are just ideas to toss around coming from a thesaurus search.

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Re: [CREATE] [LGF] A name !

[John Haltiwanger]

I thought the following might be a nice way to go:

Free to Create (or Free2Create) Foundation
Create Freedom Foundation

Just a thought :)

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Camille Bissuel wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> "Libre graphics Foundation (LGF)" is our working name now...
> here are the suggestions so far :
> - Obvious and natural choice seem to be "Libre graphics" (to decline), but
> we don't have the .org domain. Louis may encounter the domain owner to ask
> him to give it to us.
> - we have suggested "Create Fundation" during the BoF
> - Alessandro suggested "Create Lab" too, a he have a .org domain to share.
>
> we discussed too that "Libre graphics foundation" is a bit too long... and
> a shorter name would be better for an url.
> we may have to decline the name too... : maybe one day there will be a
> "Libre graphics Network" or other similar declinaisons.
>
> Please suggest and vote !
> -- yagraph
>
>
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[CREATE] [LGF] A name !

[Camille Bissuel]

Hi all,

"Libre graphics Foundation (LGF)" is our working name now...
here are the suggestions so far :
- Obvious and natural choice seem to be "Libre graphics" (to decline), but
we don't have the .org domain. Louis may encounter the domain owner to ask
him to give it to us.
- we have suggested "Create Fundation" during the BoF
- Alessandro suggested "Create Lab" too, a he have a .org domain to share.

we discussed too that "Libre graphics foundation" is a bit too long... and a
shorter name would be better for an url.
we may have to decline the name too... : maybe one day there will be a
"Libre graphics Network" or other similar declinaisons.

Please suggest and vote !
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[CREATE] Diffusion Curves

[Jasper van de Gronde]

For those interested in Diffusion Curves, more information can be gotten 
at the Inkscape wiki:


http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Diffusion_Curves

This includes some early thoughts on syntax and a link to a very (very) 
basic implementation (purely raster based). (Feel free to add your own 
ideas and suggestions.)

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[CREATE] UpStage web site back : )

[helen varley jamieson]

hi everyone,
the UpStage web site is now all as it should be again, on our new server 
: )  phew!


http://www.upstage.org.nz

there is information about the project, the festival that we have coming 
up in october (101010), & also showreels from past festivals with 
excertps of the performances that give a bit of an idea about what 
artists are doing with UpStage.


we have open sessions every couple of months where we show people the 
tools & how it works - this is all online so you can join from wherever 
you are. if you're interested in that you should join the announcements 
list to get notification of when the sessions are happening. (it's a 
pretty low-traffic list).


thanks to everyone who's shown interest in UpStage, & it's been great to 
meet you all; & thanks very much to femke & all the organisers of lgm, 
you have done a great job : )


h : )



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