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2010-06-11 Thread Marcos Diaz
I prefer RSS feeds than mailing lists, if someone too, this is the link:
http://www.nathive.org/create.rss

Is updated every 10 minutes. Enjoy it!

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Re: [CREATE] LGM 2012

2010-06-11 Thread Cyrille Berger
On Friday 11 June 2010, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:
> No need to augment the facts in there -- while I also favor starting
> the discussion for 2012 as soon as possible,
All depends of what you mean about that. I would think that yes it is a good 
idea if local team starts to gather and prepare a proposal for 2012. It is 
also an excellent idea if they invest some time on helping with 2011 (like 
finding sponsor) so they get experience for when the time comes for them to 
organise the event. But I do not think that the actual location should be 
choosen before LGM2011 (or not too much before is the date is set for August 
2011...), so that the energy of the community is focused on LGM2011.

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Re: [CREATE] LGM 2012

2010-06-11 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Gregory Pittman  wrote:
, especially in view of what we see going on currently as the LGM 2011
> site is being vetted, I think that LGM has matured enough that future
> meetings need to become something more than an ad hoc process.


No need to augment the facts in there -- while I also favor starting
the discussion for 2012 as soon as possible,
the person who raised the subject (Tor) about human rights in Vietnan
made it  quite clear that one thing is being aware and concerned, the
other is avoiding the place for LGM.

So far, I think I only had seen one e-mail clearly expressing an
opinion against holding it in Vietnan for political reasons, while all
the others, while increasingly aware of the issue seen to agree that
events like the LGM do far more good than harm in places under this
kind of political restrictions.


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[CREATE] LGM 2012

2010-06-11 Thread Gregory Pittman
This may seem a disoriented subject, but what I would like to bring up 
is that, especially in view of what we see going on currently as the LGM 
2011 site is being vetted, I think that LGM has matured enough that 
future meetings need to become something more than an ad hoc process.


I routinely find it bothersome and annoying whenever I have some meeting 
in which some major decision needs to be made, yet am given no 
preliminary information about the decision, perhaps some preliminary 
ideas that someone might have, and so on. One frequently has the 
suspicion that there have been secret meetings or discussions, in which 
decisions have more or less already been made, and then the meeting 
becomes an effort to try to get some rubberstamp approval without much 
discussion.


Worse is when there really is no sense of what decision is to be made, 
yet there is pressure to come to some decision rapidly.


It's clear to me that the idea the we can come together at one LGM with 
a more or less blank slate for where the next LGM will be and believe 
that some good ideas will come about, and that some consensus or 
agreement might come about at the LGM meeting is at best wishful thinking.


I would propose that while we are grinding away at the discussion for 
2011 that either now or very soon discussion begin about the LGM 2012 
location. Many things can happen in 2 years, of course, but 
realistically, many things can happen in a year or less, so if nothing 
else, the proposed site for 2 years from now can stand as a backup for 
one year from now should some initial planning fall through. The other 
advantage is that when LGM 2011 rolls around, the discussion at the end 
becomes a more practical, detail-oriented discussion about 2012, and the 
nebulous proposals begin about 2013. Finally, I can imagine that having 
an extra year of planning for some locations might also be a good idea.


Greg
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