Re: [CREATE] Open Source Fashion Software Update
This is so cool! On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Susan Spencer wrote: > I would like to say thank you to the open source graphics community. > I received much support, direction and advice to get this project started at > this year's LGM. > Since then, I've begun to learn Python, Inkscape, and implement SVG specs. > I would not have attempted this if I hadn't been at LGM. > Update: > 1. The basic women's bodice pattern blocks have been written. Pics posted > at: http://www.sew-brilliant.org/2010/08/20/front-bodice-block-done/ > The Inkscape extension files are available from a link on this page. > Feedback welcome. > 2. The initial proof-of-concept that it can properly resize patterns to an > individual's measurements is a men's jacket from mid 19th century. Back > pattern piece is done. That leaves front & sleeve. Hopefully will it be sewn > up and worn at DragonCon by my stepson who asked me to do this. I will > definitely post pics. > 3. New name: TMTP project - (tau meta tau physica) > Further updates will not be posted on this list. > If interested, occasionally check out the blog/wiki > at http://www.sew-brilliant.org , and in a few weeks > on http://www.tmtp-project.org > Again, thanks to each of you in this extraordinary community. > - Susan I love to get these updates! Please continue! :) Your work is a major LGM success story! I hope that at the next LGM we could even have a fashion show! That would be amazing...and our own custom clothes, so cool! Jon -- Jon Phillips http://rejon.org/ http://fabricatorz.com/ http://status.net/ http://rejon.status.net + skype: kidproto +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) +86.187.1003.9974 (china) ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] consensus constitency persistence
On 08/19/2010 11:41 PM, Yuval Levy wrote: Hi Ricardo, On August 19, 2010 11:13:53 am ricardo lafuente wrote: I'd risk an answer now, but i'd love to know your thoughts before. I hope by "you" you mean all people/projects represented on this ML. I am reading/listening. I did mean you -- Yuval -- since you put forward a concrete motion to reach consensus. I think there's a tacit meaning in posting to mailing lists like this one that anyone's thoughts and comments are welcome. These exchanges are never simple dialogues. Anyhow, i think Louis summed up nicely how things can progress in the short term. I'm still not sure, however, about setting directives for a 5-year period, it does seem too long. Also, i second Robert Martinez's view on how the LGM 'brand' should progress. However, this also reminds me that we've been discussing a Libre Graphics brand that does not yet exist -- there's Create, LGM, Libre Graphics World et al, but not Libre Graphics per se. Maybe once the association/foundation comes forward, it can be discussed and defined there. Finally, i feel awkward by having chipped in in these threads and not having mentioned Camille's work; honest thanks for the effort, perseverance and all the good ideas that you put forward, Camille! :) I'm all for applying this style to the Create website. And it's great that wheels are already moving for LGM 2011. :r ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] Open Source Fashion Software Update
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Susan Spencer > wrote: > > I would like to say thank you to the open source > graphics community. > > I received much support, direction and advice to get > this project started at > > this year's LGM. > > Since then, I've begun to learn Python, Inkscape, and > implement SVG specs. > > I would not have attempted this if I hadn't been at > LGM. > > Update: > > 1. The basic women's bodice pattern blocks have been > written. Pics posted > > at: http://www.sew-brilliant.org/2010/08/20/front-bodice-block-done/ > > The Inkscape extension files are available from a link > on this page. > > Feedback welcome. > > 2. The initial proof-of-concept that it can properly > resize patterns to an > > individual's measurements is a men's jacket from mid > 19th century. Back > > pattern piece is done. That leaves front & > sleeve. Hopefully will it be sewn > > up and worn at DragonCon by my stepson who asked me to > do this. I will > > definitely post pics. > > 3. New name: TMTP project - (tau meta tau physica) > > Further updates will not be posted on this list. > > If interested, occasionally check out the blog/wiki > > at http://www.sew-brilliant.org , and in a > few weeks > > on http://www.tmtp-project.org > > Again, thanks to each of you in this extraordinary > community. > > - Susan Glad to hear. BTW, I wrote to Till CC'ed Steve and you can see about finding an interesting large format pen-plotter/printer to put that work into some practical use! Hin-Tak ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] Open Source Fashion Software Update
Thank you Alexandre for the news story on inkscape.org And Jon, a fashion show next LGM would be both excellent and goofy. 'goofy'= 'geeky' + ridiculous amounts of beer I'll develop some more men's designs, and and then jump ahead to create the website for user login, measurement input and storage, and listing of patterns for custom svg or pdf download with instructions. At some point I'll be able to handle special requests for patterns. And be available to answer any questions about construction. Eventually I'll have to develop the extensions, icons, toolbar, help files, and interface so that designs can be developed by other users, and they can post their designs on the website, too. It's the design that requires the 'old ways' and is not so well known. But anyone is welcome to download the current files. If they can read my clunky code, they can change the extensions to draw what they want. - Susan ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] consensus constitency persistence
On August 21, 2010 12:49:11 pm ricardo lafuente wrote: > On 08/19/2010 11:41 PM, Yuval Levy wrote: > > I hope by "you" you mean all people/projects represented on this ML. I > > am reading/listening. > > I did mean you -- Yuval -- since you put forward a concrete motion to > reach consensus. I think there's a tacit meaning in posting to mailing > lists like this one that anyone's thoughts and comments are welcome. > These exchanges are never simple dialogues. If you have followed the discussion about the 2010 visuals you know that I was strongly against them. For the same reason I now applaud Louis adoption of those same visuals for 2011 and I hope 2012 will be an evolution rather than the revolution we have seen every second year (i.e. every year when LGM was not managed by Louis). Bravo Louis! An intended, planned, managed process changing the visual appearance can be codified as part of an identity; or even as the centerpiece of it if you so desire. If this is your identity, so be it. This is not what I see now. What I see now is improvisation. I'd like to raise awareness to the full cost of such an identity: it's not just the dissipation of energy and the diversion from core issues. It's also a reset of the recognition value and affects critical tasks. No identity, corporate or otherwise, is set in stone. The process of changing it is so costly that even the more selfish of leaderships will first make sure it can afford the disruption. Not codifying the identity does not eliminate these cost. It just hides them. There is at least one good example of an orderly evolving identity in the FLOSS world: Ubuntu. Learn from it! Their visuals change every six month but the lineage is never broken. It is carefully crafted evolution, not revolution. The pace of visual change is adapted to the pace and dynamics of the project / organization. So, now that I wasted some more time/energy (yours and mine) that could have been used to: - fix a bug - support a user - write a tutorial - translate a few strings - just have fun with private creations - testing the waters for a repeat of http://www.uwivi.com/ in 2011 You will excuse me, Ricardo, if I am not inclined to deconstruct your arguments one by one. Let's just agree to disagree. Good luck to you with your projects. Yuv signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] Fwd: Re: [LGF-LGA] Ok, let's start with a website
On August 19, 2010 10:53:16 am Camille Bissuel wrote: > I assume that no proprietary software will be put in the > software directory Why not? As a creator I believe I have the right to mix and match proprietary and Free tools. I want the directory to help me make an informed choice. This includes information on all tools, not just Free ones. I prefer to find out earlier than later if there are interoperability issues and how standard compliant a software is if there are standards. Anti-competitive behavior that limits my freedom directly or indirectly should be exposed (e.g. NDA's that make it difficult or impossible for developers to support my need for interoperability). The difference between advertising and information is that advertising centers on strengths only, conveniently forgetting to mention the weaknesses. I would like to see an informative directory complete and honest, even if sometimes honesty is brutally hurting. Yuv signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
