Re: [CREATE] getting feedback from the projects @ lgm 2012
hi greg, so we need two forms: - one per project to collect rapports - one person to collect feedback on the lgm fine to me! i'll prepare a draft and submit it for review later today. ciao a.l.e > I worry about having an excessively open-ended survey. > I think it's worth the time to try to come up with a list of > questions which people would be likely to want to answer and that > also give some useful information. > > So perhaps some categories might be considered, and perhaps it should > be said that one can choose to respond to any or all they might > select: > > (after shown a list of the talks as a reminder)... > which talks stand out as the most interesting to you? Why? > Which speakers gave talks which were > entertaining/informative/mentally stimulating? Add details as you > like. What have you learned at LGM 2012 that you did not know about > or understand before you attended? > Was the number of talks too many? not enough? > Was there anything you were hoping to be presented that didn't happen? > Did you have productive meetings outside of the scheduled talks? How > were they productive? > Did you attend any workshops that were interesting/helpful/useful? > Do you feel that the attendance (numbers and the particular > individuals) made for a good audience and discussions? > > It's also useful for those responding to identify themselves as to > developer, user, professional user, enthusiast, etc. (I suppose some > could be all of these) > > I only mean this as an initial framework to add to, subtract from, or > refine as others see fit. > > Greg > ___ > CREATE mailing list > CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] getting feedback from the projects @ lgm 2012
I worry about having an excessively open-ended survey. I think it's worth the time to try to come up with a list of questions which people would be likely to want to answer and that also give some useful information. So perhaps some categories might be considered, and perhaps it should be said that one can choose to respond to any or all they might select: (after shown a list of the talks as a reminder)... which talks stand out as the most interesting to you? Why? Which speakers gave talks which were entertaining/informative/mentally stimulating? Add details as you like. What have you learned at LGM 2012 that you did not know about or understand before you attended? Was the number of talks too many? not enough? Was there anything you were hoping to be presented that didn't happen? Did you have productive meetings outside of the scheduled talks? How were they productive? Did you attend any workshops that were interesting/helpful/useful? Do you feel that the attendance (numbers and the particular individuals) made for a good audience and discussions? It's also useful for those responding to identify themselves as to developer, user, professional user, enthusiast, etc. (I suppose some could be all of these) I only mean this as an initial framework to add to, subtract from, or refine as others see fit. Greg ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] LGM 2012 - Reimbursement form online
2012/5/10 Simon Budig > Hi al. > > Louis Desjardins (louis.desjard...@gmail.com) wrote: > > For those who are entitled to a reimbursement for their travel expenses, > > please go to page: > > Note that this does not apply for the people funded by the Gimp > Project. We'll handle this separately, Michael Schumacher (schumaml) is > collecting the information on that. > I hope this helps, > Yes, Simon! Thanks for the precisions! Louis > Simon > > -- > si...@budig.de http://simon.budig.de/ ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] LGM 2012 - Reimbursement form online
Hi al. Louis Desjardins (louis.desjard...@gmail.com) wrote: > For those who are entitled to a reimbursement for their travel expenses, > please go to page: Note that this does not apply for the people funded by the Gimp Project. We'll handle this separately, Michael Schumacher (schumaml) is collecting the information on that. I hope this helps, Simon -- si...@budig.de http://simon.budig.de/ ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
[CREATE] LGM 2012 - Reimbursement form online
Hi LGMers ! For those who are entitled to a reimbursement for their travel expenses, please go to page: http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2012/reimbursements/ You will get a confirmation email once you hit the submit button. Deadline for submitting your receipts is May 31, 2012. Thanks again for making LGM happen! Louis ...for the whole LGM team ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] LGM 2012 Travel Expenses
On 5/10/12 6:01 PM, Andreas Vox wrote: > >> From: Louis Desjardins >> Subject: Re: [CREATE] LGM 2012 Travel Expenses >> To: "a.l.e" >> Cc: Create ML >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >> >> 2012/5/10 a.l.e >> >>> i also have a remark. our policy is to reimburse the travel expenses at >>> the prorata of the money we could collect. >>> >>> while in the past we could always reimburse all the people asking for it, >>> for the first time this year it's likely that we won't be able to full >>> refund the costs (it all depends on who will be asking, so we don't know >>> yet for sure; last year we also thought that the finances were too >>> tight...). >>> >>> personally, i'd like to make a change in that policy and first full >>> reimburse the people that had travel costs which are a multiple of their >>> monthly income (i think that we only have one such case), then reimburse >>> those who had costs that correpsond to a big part of their monthly income >>> (probably 2 or 3 such cases) and finally distribute the rest among the >>> other people asking for a refund. >>> >>> we don't need to ask for income details, we should be able to guess it >>> ourselves for some people and other can tell (and have already told) us >>> that it's important for them to get refundend. > >> ... > >> While I think there is a great heart and a very good intention behind that >> proposal, I would be more encline to stick with what has always been the >> rule. Otherwise it opens the door to arbitrary calls and knowing the >> situation of one or a few people doen?t make the exercice more fair as some >> people might be in a difficult situation as well and won?t tell about it. >> >> Let?s first determine what the needs are. Ony then will we know the height >> of the percentage of the reimbursements for each person asking of it. >> Meanwhile, money is still coming in, slowly but... >> >> It is always up to anyone to ask for a reimbursement. We?ll give until end >> of this month period to fill the form and then we?ll know. > > I have another proposal: ask the applicants in the form for a priority: > > Prio 1: I really need the money, please reimburse me fully if possible. (This > would be the default) > Prio 2: I could use the money, but I understand that people from prio 1 have > greater need and so I want them reimbursed fully before I get any money > Prio 3: I don't need the money, but before it stays sitting in the bank, > please reimburse me > > Then it would be a matter of courtesy for people to pick prio 2 or 3 for > themselves and we don't have to decide or discuss. > > /Andreas As Louis has said, we are now after the fact. If its going to change, it should change for the following year(s), not the one just past. Craig ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] LGM 2012 Travel Expenses
> From: Louis Desjardins > Subject: Re: [CREATE] LGM 2012 Travel Expenses > To: "a.l.e" > Cc: Create ML > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > 2012/5/10 a.l.e > >> i also have a remark. our policy is to reimburse the travel expenses at >> the prorata of the money we could collect. >> >> while in the past we could always reimburse all the people asking for it, >> for the first time this year it's likely that we won't be able to full >> refund the costs (it all depends on who will be asking, so we don't know >> yet for sure; last year we also thought that the finances were too >> tight...). >> >> personally, i'd like to make a change in that policy and first full >> reimburse the people that had travel costs which are a multiple of their >> monthly income (i think that we only have one such case), then reimburse >> those who had costs that correpsond to a big part of their monthly income >> (probably 2 or 3 such cases) and finally distribute the rest among the >> other people asking for a refund. >> >> we don't need to ask for income details, we should be able to guess it >> ourselves for some people and other can tell (and have already told) us >> that it's important for them to get refundend. > ... > While I think there is a great heart and a very good intention behind that > proposal, I would be more encline to stick with what has always been the > rule. Otherwise it opens the door to arbitrary calls and knowing the > situation of one or a few people doen?t make the exercice more fair as some > people might be in a difficult situation as well and won?t tell about it. > > Let?s first determine what the needs are. Ony then will we know the height > of the percentage of the reimbursements for each person asking of it. > Meanwhile, money is still coming in, slowly but... > > It is always up to anyone to ask for a reimbursement. We?ll give until end > of this month period to fill the form and then we?ll know. I have another proposal: ask the applicants in the form for a priority: Prio 1: I really need the money, please reimburse me fully if possible. (This would be the default) Prio 2: I could use the money, but I understand that people from prio 1 have greater need and so I want them reimbursed fully before I get any money Prio 3: I don't need the money, but before it stays sitting in the bank, please reimburse me Then it would be a matter of courtesy for people to pick prio 2 or 3 for themselves and we don't have to decide or discuss. /Andreas ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
[CREATE] getting feedback from the projects @ lgm 2012
hi we would like to get a feedback from each project having participated at the LGM. on the one side this will help us prepare a final press release. on the other side we will use the information to figure out what the participants did at the LGM and use those facts to promote our meeting in the future. does anybody have time to help us collecting and process the information? currently the following tasks are planned: - writing an mail to be sent to each participant of the LGM 2012 (a draft is to be found at the end of this mail) - preparing a form where people can submit the information. the following fields are already planned: - Name of the project - List of people at the LGM - Author(s) of the rapport - A Catch Phrase / Title - Description of your LGM (achievements, how it is important for you, ...) - Remarks to the organizers - Up to 3 pictures can be uploaded. Any comments? - sending the email to each participant (i have a list of people having registered) - make sure that at least the most relevant projects submit a rapport. - evaluate the rapports and write a final press release. - prepare a rapport to be sent to our sponsors and to be shown to the next year's LGM potential sponsors. so, does anybody want to volunteer for any of those tasks? any other comments on those tasks? have a nice evening a.l.e --- 8< --- Hi all, We need to put together a final report that will help us in all our communications with sponsoring organisations, whether they are corporate, non-profit or public. From each team present at LGM 2012 we need a short text telling in a lively manner, including a good quote to summarize, what was accomplished at LGM this year and how important LGM is in the development cycle of your project. Get to the point. It doesn’t have to be long. It only has to say the important things! Of course, your very welcome to publish the summary also in your Blog or Website. Please write and send before Friday, May 18. Thanks again for participating! --- >8 ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] LGM 2012 Travel Expenses
2012/5/10 a.l.e > hi > > since somody is against changing the rule after the lgm has taken place, i > retract my proposition. > > we should stick to the pro-rata rule we had until now. > > > but i'd like make the process of reimbursement faster: no need to wait a > 20 days for sending in the requests. > end of next week should be enough. > > i can activate the form for the reimbursement this evening. > Hi, As I said, I am the one in charge of this. End of May will be the deadline to submit a request for reimbursement. The info will be on the website later today and the form available. The rules are simple : 1. We reimburse within budget limit in percentage of the needs against the money available. 2. People entitled to a reimbursement are a) developers members of a team present at LGM (it is up to each team to determine who is member and who is not. LGM organisation don’t make assumptions on that) and b) speakers at LGM. 3. A sponsored person must not be sponsorerd by other means. 4. We need all the requested fields to be filled in order to process a reimbursement, and the relevant receipts and proofs of travel. Footnote: by past experience, the easiest, quickest and sheapest way is Paypal. This comment is only to let you know. Transfert costs can be lowered and that way we can reimburse more. Less money in the pockets of the banks. Thanks! Louis > > ciao > a.l.e > > 2012/5/10 a.l.e > > hi > > hi! > > > A practical question regarding this year's LGM: > to whom should we submit our travel expenses? > > > does anybody want to take the task on him / her? > > > Hi, > > This is my responsibility. > > I will put the reimbursement file online later today. > > More below on Ale's proposal. > > > > > i also have a remark. our policy is to reimburse the travel expenses at > the prorata of the money we could collect. > > while in the past we could always reimburse all the people asking for it, > for the first time this year it's likely that we won't be able to full > refund the costs (it all depends on who will be asking, so we don't know > yet for sure; last year we also thought that the finances were too > tight...). > > personally, i'd like to make a change in that policy and first full > reimburse the people that had travel costs which are a multiple of their > monthly income (i think that we only have one such case), then reimburse > those who had costs that correpsond to a big part of their monthly income > (probably 2 or 3 such cases) and finally distribute the rest among the > other people asking for a refund. > > we don't need to ask for income details, we should be able to guess it > ourselves for some people and other can tell (and have already told) us > that it's important for them to get refundend. > > > so: > > a/ any volonteer? > > > Yes, me > > > b/ is the policy proposed ok? > > > While I think there is a great heart and a very good intention behind > that proposal, I would be more encline to stick with what has always been > the rule. Otherwise it opens the door to arbitrary calls and knowing the > situation of one or a few people doen’t make the exercice more fair as some > people might be in a difficult situation as well and won’t tell about it. > > Let’s first determine what the needs are. Ony then will we know the > height of the percentage of the reimbursements for each person asking of > it. Meanwhile, money is still coming in, slowly but... > > It is always up to anyone to ask for a reimbursement. We’ll give until > end of this month period to fill the form and then we’ll know. > > Louis > > > > ciao > a.l.e > > ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] LGM 2012 Travel Expenses
hi since somody is against changing the rule after the lgm has taken place, i retract my proposition. we should stick to the pro-rata rule we had until now. but i'd like make the process of reimbursement faster: no need to wait a 20 days for sending in the requests. end of next week should be enough. i can activate the form for the reimbursement this evening. ciao a.l.e 2012/5/10 a.l.e mailto:ale.comp...@xox.ch>> hi hi! A practical question regarding this year's LGM: to whom should we submit our travel expenses? does anybody want to take the task on him / her? Hi, This is my responsibility. I will put the reimbursement file online later today. More below on Ale's proposal. i also have a remark. our policy is to reimburse the travel expenses at the prorata of the money we could collect. while in the past we could always reimburse all the people asking for it, for the first time this year it's likely that we won't be able to full refund the costs (it all depends on who will be asking, so we don't know yet for sure; last year we also thought that the finances were too tight...). personally, i'd like to make a change in that policy and first full reimburse the people that had travel costs which are a multiple of their monthly income (i think that we only have one such case), then reimburse those who had costs that correpsond to a big part of their monthly income (probably 2 or 3 such cases) and finally distribute the rest among the other people asking for a refund. we don't need to ask for income details, we should be able to guess it ourselves for some people and other can tell (and have already told) us that it's important for them to get refundend. so: a/ any volonteer? Yes, me b/ is the policy proposed ok? While I think there is a great heart and a very good intention behind that proposal, I would be more encline to stick with what has always been the rule. Otherwise it opens the door to arbitrary calls and knowing the situation of one or a few people doen’t make the exercice more fair as some people might be in a difficult situation as well and won’t tell about it. Let’s first determine what the needs are. Ony then will we know the height of the percentage of the reimbursements for each person asking of it. Meanwhile, money is still coming in, slowly but... It is always up to anyone to ask for a reimbursement. We’ll give until end of this month period to fill the form and then we’ll know. Louis ciao a.l.e ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] LGM 2012 Travel Expenses
2012/5/10 a.l.e > hi > > hi! >> >> >> A practical question regarding this year's LGM: >> to whom should we submit our travel expenses? >> >> > does anybody want to take the task on him / her? > Hi, This is my responsibility. I will put the reimbursement file online later today. More below on Ale's proposal. > > > > i also have a remark. our policy is to reimburse the travel expenses at > the prorata of the money we could collect. > > while in the past we could always reimburse all the people asking for it, > for the first time this year it's likely that we won't be able to full > refund the costs (it all depends on who will be asking, so we don't know > yet for sure; last year we also thought that the finances were too > tight...). > > personally, i'd like to make a change in that policy and first full > reimburse the people that had travel costs which are a multiple of their > monthly income (i think that we only have one such case), then reimburse > those who had costs that correpsond to a big part of their monthly income > (probably 2 or 3 such cases) and finally distribute the rest among the > other people asking for a refund. > > we don't need to ask for income details, we should be able to guess it > ourselves for some people and other can tell (and have already told) us > that it's important for them to get refundend. > > > so: > > a/ any volonteer? > Yes, me > > b/ is the policy proposed ok? > While I think there is a great heart and a very good intention behind that proposal, I would be more encline to stick with what has always been the rule. Otherwise it opens the door to arbitrary calls and knowing the situation of one or a few people doen’t make the exercice more fair as some people might be in a difficult situation as well and won’t tell about it. Let’s first determine what the needs are. Ony then will we know the height of the percentage of the reimbursements for each person asking of it. Meanwhile, money is still coming in, slowly but... It is always up to anyone to ask for a reimbursement. We’ll give until end of this month period to fill the form and then we’ll know. Louis > > > ciao > a.l.e ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] LGM 2012 Travel Expenses
hi hi! A practical question regarding this year's LGM: to whom should we submit our travel expenses? does anybody want to take the task on him / her? i also have a remark. our policy is to reimburse the travel expenses at the prorata of the money we could collect. while in the past we could always reimburse all the people asking for it, for the first time this year it's likely that we won't be able to full refund the costs (it all depends on who will be asking, so we don't know yet for sure; last year we also thought that the finances were too tight...). personally, i'd like to make a change in that policy and first full reimburse the people that had travel costs which are a multiple of their monthly income (i think that we only have one such case), then reimburse those who had costs that correpsond to a big part of their monthly income (probably 2 or 3 such cases) and finally distribute the rest among the other people asking for a refund. we don't need to ask for income details, we should be able to guess it ourselves for some people and other can tell (and have already told) us that it's important for them to get refundend. so: a/ any volonteer? b/ is the policy proposed ok? ciao a.l.e ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
[CREATE] LGM 2012 Travel Expenses
hi! A practical question regarding this year's LGM: to whom should we submit our travel expenses? Thanks! Ana I. Carvalho ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
