Re: [CREATE] Last round of comments: LGM Code of Conduct

[Susan Spencer]

This additional document is awesome.
Great work.
If in the future someone finds a link to an online article which discusses
non-gender-related incidents, it can be added to this document at that time.

On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Femke Snelting wrote:
>
>
> OK, so we seem to agree on the overall text but many would like the link
> to the external page at geekfeminism wiki replaced by a LGM-editable list
> of references.
> Also, this page would be more useful if it referred to a wider spectrum of
> concrete harassment-cases than to gender-related incidents only.
>
> Here's a start: http://piratepad.net/lgm-coc-examples
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Re: [CREATE] Last round of comments: LGM Code of Conduct

[Femke Snelting]

> - I agree that the reference to examples was awkwardly phrased and simple 
is better:
> "Some examples: http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_incidents";

While I do believe that it is useful to have something in the CoC that
counters the "doesn't happen in our circles" attitude I really wonder if
it is wise to reference something that is "out of our control". We would me
more flexible about what to reference when we'd point to a URL under the
libregraphicsmeeting.org  domain, where we 
can have a collection of
ressources that even can be expanded/changed if new good ressources pop
up or other ressources go bad.


+1


Count me as another +1 on that suggestion. I agree fully that having control 
over the page we're linking to is important. I'd even suggest that we could 
come up with a pretty thorough resource, documenting both things like the Geek 
Feminism Timeline of Incidents (which is one important type of resource), as 
well as documents of the kind suggested by Louis (which are regulatory, rather 
than descriptive). I do think, though, that it's important to include any 
public lists of incidents we can find, and attempt to expand our list beyond 
the currently-included one from Geek Feminism.


OK, so we seem to agree on the overall text but many would like the link to the 
external page at geekfeminism wiki replaced by a LGM-editable list of 
references.
Also, this page would be more useful if it referred to a wider spectrum of 
concrete harassment-cases than to gender-related incidents only.

Here's a start: http://piratepad.net/lgm-coc-examples

Your help/comments are much appreciated; let's publish the CoC this weekend 
latest?

thanks again,


Femke
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Re: [CREATE] Last round of comments: LGM Code of Conduct

[Susan Spencer]

Thanks Femke for the reminder of why the link was included:

On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Femke Snelting wrote:

>
> The reason to have examples included, is that experience learns (from many
> other groups that have done CoCs and/or that have dealt with harassment),
> that concrete cases are necessary in order for a CoC to work.
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