Re: [CREATE] Access to LGM website
Hi Louis, I just wake up, reading your mail not fully awake, and nothing personal, but honestly, I don't understand your reaction... You certainly have a lot of pressure to organize LGM2011, but please keep calm... a.l.e had work days and nights to make the actual website happen... Alex and I have help as far as we can, but with a lot of professional constraints getting us away. A website is not a 2 days job. usually a month is a very minimum. a.l.e had work during two years to make existing website what it is today. In the last months, we have struggle with disappearing text editor caused by a CSS mistake, feed spams, bugs in anwiki registration forbidding new users, a FreeBSD server with missing libraries (personally I never used FreeBSD before !), IE sort-of-compatibilty, and many other technical stuff. But maybe the hardest part was to listen every complain here, saying one and the opposite (new colors ! no foolish, no new colors !), and trying to make progress despite this. The last episode is your ask for a Drupal website, which is simply unrealistic. So, please help us build on existing tools instead of wasting time in complains and unrealistic alternatives. Maybe a.l.e could spend time finishing forms on the actual website instead of trying to redo everything in Drupal on your demand. Maybe I can add that for every urgent point, we have build simple solution in between to achieve complex ones ( did you notice the "Propose your talk" banner on the website for example ? ) What are you missing now ? only finished forms ? please simply list it, and we will have the job done. Can we have some help on the work, and kindness for the existing tool ? Thanks in advance, Camille Le 22/03/2011 03:59, Louis Desjardins a écrit : 2011/3/18 Louis Desjardins louis.desjard...@gmail.com Hi Guys, We need to improve the access to the LGM website. I have a limited access to the LGM website at the moment but this access is broken. I have currently no way to edit the text in the website. At 9 weeks before LGM, this is wrong. We need to be able to put stuff on the website at just about any time, or reset access when it's broken, or whatever ! :) As we get closer to the LGM, it becomes clearly critical that we need to let in at least one or two knowledgeable person(s) who could handle the code when one of us is not available. A few people have access to the server and they seem to be all in the same time zone or very busy elsewhere. We need more flexibility. Can we address this quickly — I mean now? Hi, It's been days now. It’s taking too long to solve simple issues. I have lost confidence in the actual web team for LGM. I now ask that they pull off and let the keys to others. We need things done and we need them done with no further delays. I am sorry for all the noise on this list but direct emails have had no effect so here we are now. I am ready to take over. All I need now is the full access to the server. Thanks ! Louis Thanks. Louis ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] Access to LGM website
On 03/21/2011 10:59 PM, Louis Desjardins wrote: It's been days now. It’s taking too long to solve simple issues. I have lost confidence in the actual web team for LGM. I now ask that they pull off and let the keys to others. We need things done and we need them done with no further delays. I am sorry for all the noise on this list but direct emails have had no effect so here we are now. I am ready to take over. All I need now is the full access to the server. As someone who has no intention of getting involved with working on the site, I would at least like to see comments/complaints clearly identify specific and hopefully named issues, perhaps in some numbered or bulleted list, as we might do if we were running this as some business operation (which it is, of course). Simply ping-ponging back and forth between everything's Ok to there are unsolved problems is not helpful on a practical level. Greg ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] Access to LGM website
Hi all, I'm certainly not an authority in this field, but willing to change our tools (SVN, mercurial, Drupal or whatever), a few weeks before the event is not really a bright idea in my point of view. We already spent weeks doing the actual LGM2011 website, and even if it's not prefect, it do the job. In the best scenario , trying to restart everything again now will only conduct to a beta quality website two weeks before the event. Furthermore, using a revision control system is not ideal because it increase complexity, and forbid quick testing in the production environment (it's easy to make a typo mistake in a _javascript_ file for example). Drupal is a good CMS, but we will need time to set it up fully, so it will be wiser to use it for next year. Said simply, as already said by a number fo people here, let's focus on next tasks instead of re-doing the same ones again and again. Cheers, Camille Le 20/03/2011 22:32, a.l.e a crit: ciao yuval, On March 18, 2011 07:57:25 pm a.l.e wrote: the content is managed in a wiki form and is stored in a database. the source control architecture would not back up the database itself, only the code to generate it and access it. however you don't need SSH to access a wiki/database from the html front end? the access to the server is only need to modify the forms and the templates. for forms and templates it would work. i have set up recently a mercurial over https configuration. it boils down to adding users in the .htaccess file, no SSH access required (which I understand is what you are wary about?). personally, i haven't yet used mercurial yet (nor git; i still normally use svn, which is not ok to publish a website). Why do you state that SVN is not OK to publish a website? Hugin moved to Mercurial only a year ago. Prior to that it was in SVN. The website too. And it worked well. it's not really practical to put a svn check out on a webserver: it's polluted with .svn directories... let's see how we will manage the site next year... i think that we will give up with anwiki. mercurial could then be a way to manage it! I don't know the site's architecture. I do know that before giving up a tool I would want to have a comprehensive look at what works and what not, and make sure that the change of tool is not just for the sake of changing tool. we are changing now for drupal. the new site will be up as soon as possible. i hope we won't have to change again next year! not sure if it's worth to put a drupal instance in a revision system... we will see. ciao a.l.e ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] Access to LGM website
hi it's not really practical to put a svn check out on a webserver: it's polluted with .svn directories... Just make sure (e.g. via .htaccess) that the web server won't let people fetch the content of .svn directories. http://www.w3.org/ is done from CVS (since it predates svn) and we've had literally thousands of contributors. Running cvs commit results in the changes being visible. Seems perfectly feasible to me. Probably the same could be done with git fairly easily (I say that since git seems to be winning out in popularity over the others, which is not specifically about features and not an argument we need to have, I don't really care what's used as long as it's not so obscure than only 500 people in the world can use it) yes, this is feasible... still not very practical. other version control system don't put a hidden directory in each directory and are more practical for synchronizing a web project. ciao a.l.e ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] Access to LGM website
hi louis, The actual website with all its content *is incomplete as of today* and very late on schedule despite the fact that most of the info herein is the same as in 2009 for the venue and mostly the same as in 2010 for most of the rest of the information. as far i can tell, i've put most if not all the information i got into the website. the forms for signup and for submitting a talk were ready for weeks but you changed your mind on how they should work / what field had to be in there last week. the form for signing up *is* ready for testing but on hold because of the drupal transition (you want everything editable by everyboy, so we will have to port the form to drupal). the form for submitting talks is quite advanced and needs a couple of hours of work but we will start it over with drupal. I have asked during last fall that the site points to 2011 instead of 2010 but it took nonetheless months to get that. not true. we agreed that the default site should point to 2010 until the end of the year because this was what most people would want to see: an archive of the past edition. the change from the one site to the other was quite fast (even if i didn't find out at first how it was done... sorry.) In February — on schedule and in sync with all past years — we have come up with a draft Press Release and started to activate the Pledgie campaign. We targeted beginning of March and extended this towards a couple week-ends later, sometimes around March 10. not because of the website, afaict. On March 7 I have sent the logo of a new sponsor: it is still not on the website 14 days later. on march 7 i don't seem to have got any mail from you. never heard of a new sponsor, sorry. Meanwhile the website was still not easily updatable by the very few people who should be able to do this — including myself and rejon and a few others (very few people in fact). Access to edit simple links was not allowed or counterintuitive and parts of the pages were broken. So we thought, yes, that the tool we use for the site is not the right tool, no matter if it worked well or not last year. the site is not trivial to update: true. but as many people as they want can learn it and update the content. and the system is quite solid and has very good features, but you have to take the time to learn it. but that's history. now we have drupal and it will probably be easier to edit content and the rest, too. btw, the fact that you could not correctly login anymore is still a mistery. The actual switch to Drupal is something that was very rapidly discussed on IRC and agreed upon as quickly. well, yes, we can say it that way... It is supposed to be done within a day or two, with a proven tool that the community knows perfectly. you suppose it to take one or two day... for the full content and template to been take over, i would say that two weeks is a minimal timeframe. as for now, the only proposal we got for porting the template (html + css) to drupal is two weeks for a first draft. i think it can be done a bit faster, but we still have to find somebody who can do it faster. we will see how many people can work on it and for how many hours... personally, i've committed most of my weekend to check the features we need in drupal 6 and 7 and i'm ready to upload a first test version of drupal 6 to the lgm server. as for now, we are still waiting for a database being created on the lgm server. have a nice day a.l.e ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] Access to LGM website
ciao a.l.e, On March 20, 2011 05:32:59 pm a.l.e wrote: it's not really practical to put a svn check out on a webserver: it's polluted with .svn directories... Bruno wrote the little script for Hugin when it was on SVN. It was a one liner check out + rsync to the actual web space, and the rsync command would filter out the .svn pollution. we are changing now for drupal. now? with LGM just around the corner? I don't think it is wise to make such deep changes so late in the cycle. Work with what you have now, and decide about those tools for 2012 and beyond. Doing changes *now* in the heat of the deadlines is a recipe for... i hope we won't have to change again next year! ... not getting it right and having to change again next year! not sure if it's worth to put a drupal instance in a revision system no, it is not. just backup the database and you're fine. On the other hand, a drupal powered site uses up more resources than a revision-managed static site. Just in case you get slashdotted... Yuv signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] Access to LGM website
On March 21, 2011 06:34:10 am Craig Bradney wrote: On 3/21/11 11:28 AM, Camille Bissuel wrote: Hi all, I'm certainly not an authority in this field, but willing to change our tools (SVN, mercurial, Drupal or whatever), a few weeks before the event is not really a bright idea in my point of view. agree. and please, send mails in TEXT format, not HTML format. I could not read your previous mail. We already spent weeks doing the actual LGM2011 website, and even if it's not prefect, it do the job. agree. don't change now. Furthermore, using a revision control system is not ideal because it increase complexity, and forbid quick testing in the production environment (it's easy to make a typo mistake in a javascript file for example). disagree. it reduces complexity (you don't need a MySQL database back end) and properly managed all the production environment is under revision control as well, so that you can do all sorts of quick testing with a checkout on a local machine or onto a staging instance on the produciton machine. I had set a site up so that it is all automated. contributors work on Mercurial. They push. When changes are pushed, they are published automatically to a staging site. When the staging site looks ok, you press a button and it is all moved instantly to the production site. Just a little bit of PHP/JavaScript/.htaccess. Still totally undocumented, but maybe one day I'll find the time to publish it. Said simply, as already said by a number fo people here, let's focus on next tasks instead of re-doing the same ones again and again. Well said.. don't change now.. develop what is there and make it right for 2011. You all liked it for 2010, 9 weeks is no time at all. agree. I was making suggestions for the long run, not for now. Having said that though, you should not be doing testing in production, you should have a test environment for that! absolutely agree! Using any revision control system could simply allow a checkout of a release version into prod. Adding a CMS on top complicates that, although a database dump from test to prod and a checkout should generally cover it. yes, that's it. question is: do you need CMS functionalities? pages are static, so just using some form of server side include for header and footer is faster and efficient. The editors of the static pages are savvy enough to do some basic HTML and catch errors in staging before going to production. You don't have the complexity of roles and accesses and the RCS let you undo things anyway. The only parts that would still require database are things like registration forms. The code in RCS and the database just dump it. Yuv Craig signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] Access to LGM website
topPost / Also, please do file any of these at the bug tracker: http://launchpad.net/create-project I set up the timeline on announcements there as milestones, so we can plot these things out better going ahead and avoid crunchtime problems. Jon -- Jon Phillips http://fabricatorz.com +1.415.830.3884 (global) ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] Access to LGM website
ciao a.l.e. On March 18, 2011 07:57:25 pm a.l.e wrote: the content is managed in a wiki form and is stored in a database. the source control architecture would not back up the database itself, only the code to generate it and access it. however you don't need SSH to access a wiki/database from the html front end? the access to the server is only need to modify the forms and the templates. for forms and templates it would work. i have set up recently a mercurial over https configuration. it boils down to adding users in the .htaccess file, no SSH access required (which I understand is what you are wary about?). personally, i haven't yet used mercurial yet (nor git; i still normally use svn, which is not ok to publish a website). Why do you state that SVN is not OK to publish a website? Hugin moved to Mercurial only a year ago. Prior to that it was in SVN. The website too. And it worked well. let's see how we will manage the site next year... i think that we will give up with anwiki. mercurial could then be a way to manage it! I don't know the site's architecture. I do know that before giving up a tool I would want to have a comprehensive look at what works and what not, and make sure that the change of tool is not just for the sake of changing tool. My understanding from this discussion is that there is a need for faster collaboration across time zones. I am not in the position to judge if a change of tool will fix this. I don't know enough. Just trying to help with a few ideas/pointers. If you want me to help, I can make some time available in April and I will first need to understand what's on the ground before starting to fiddle. Yuv ciao a.l.e ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] Access to LGM website
On 03/19/2011 08:56 AM, Craig Bradney wrote: I don't know the site's architecture. I do know that before giving up a tool I would want to have a comprehensive look at what works and what not, and make sure that the change of tool is not just for the sake of changing tool. My understanding from this discussion is that there is a need for faster collaboration across time zones. I am not in the position to judge if a change of tool will fix this. I don't know enough. Just trying to help with a few ideas/pointers. If you want me to help, I can make some time available in April and I will first need to understand what's on the ground before starting to fiddle. If anything, people should have sorted their required access months ago, not now. Its really ridiculous to watch people whine at this point that things are taking too long or they don't have access. Ale could have sorted this for those people ages ago. Maybe they could get it sorted earlier in time for next year? Well said, Craig. Greg ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] Access to LGM website
Have youbguya donated or blogged about the upcoming Conference? j...@fabricatorz.com http://fabricatorz.com On Mar 19, 2011 8:32 AM, Gregory Pittman gpitt...@iglou.com wrote: On 03/19/2011 08:56 AM, Craig Bradney wrote: I don't know the site's architecture. I do know that before giving up a tool I would want to have a comprehensive look at what works and what not, and make sure that the change of tool is not just for the sake of changing tool. My understanding from this discussion is that there is a need for faster collaboration across time zones. I am not in the position to judge if a change of tool will fix this. I don't know enough. Just trying to help with a few ideas/pointers. If you want me to help, I can make some time available in April and I will first need to understand what's on the ground before starting to fiddle. If anything, people should have sorted their required access months ago, not now. Its really ridiculous to watch people whine at this point that things are taking too long or they don't have access. Ale could have sorted this for those people ages ago. Maybe they could get it sorted earlier in time for next year? Well said, Craig. Greg ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] Access to LGM website
You guys... j...@fabricatorz.com http://fabricatorz.com On Mar 19, 2011 9:19 AM, j...@rejon.org j...@rejon.org wrote: Have youbguya donated or blogged about the upcoming Conference? j...@fabricatorz.com http://fabricatorz.com On Mar 19, 2011 8:32 AM, Gregory Pittman gpitt...@iglou.com wrote: On 03/19/2011 08:56 AM, Craig Bradney wrote: I don't know the site's architecture. I do know that before giving up a tool I would want to have a comprehensive look at what works and what not, and make sure that the change of tool is not just for the sake of changing tool. My understanding from this discussion is that there is a need for faster collaboration across time zones. I am not in the position to judge if a change of tool will fix this. I don't know enough. Just trying to help with a few ideas/pointers. If you want me to help, I can make some time available in April and I will first need to understand what's on the ground before starting to fiddle. If anything, people should have sorted their required access months ago, not now. Its really ridiculous to watch people whine at this point that things are taking too long or they don't have access. Ale could have sorted this for those people ages ago. Maybe they could get it sorted earlier in time for next year? Well said, Craig. Greg ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] Access to LGM website
Greg thanks for...im talking whole list. Jon j...@fabricatorz.com http://fabricatorz.com On Mar 19, 2011 9:20 AM, j...@rejon.org j...@rejon.org wrote: You guys... j...@fabricatorz.com http://fabricatorz.com On Mar 19, 2011 9:19 AM, j...@rejon.org j...@rejon.org wrote: Have youbguya donated or blogged about the upcoming Conference? j...@fabricatorz.com http://fabricatorz.com On Mar 19, 2011 8:32 AM, Gregory Pittman gpitt...@iglou.com wrote: On 03/19/2011 08:56 AM, Craig Bradney wrote: I don't know the site's architecture. I do know that before giving up a tool I would want to have a comprehensive look at what works and what not, and make sure that the change of tool is not just for the sake of changing tool. My understanding from this discussion is that there is a need for faster collaboration across time zones. I am not in the position to judge if a change of tool will fix this. I don't know enough. Just trying to help with a few ideas/pointers. If you want me to help, I can make some time available in April and I will first need to understand what's on the ground before starting to fiddle. If anything, people should have sorted their required access months ago, not now. Its really ridiculous to watch people whine at this point that things are taking too long or they don't have access. Ale could have sorted this for those people ages ago. Maybe they could get it sorted earlier in time for next year? Well said, Craig. Greg ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] Access to LGM website
On 03/19/2011 10:19 AM, j...@rejon.org wrote: Have youbguya donated or blogged about the upcoming Conference? One of the things I think we should address formally is the idea of paid advertising on the LGM site. I'm not talking about just any old ads regarding p3nis enlargement or the benefits of acai berries, but some graphics-related ads (example: Adobe). Or even various players in the computing realm, open source or not (Ubuntu, Dell, HP, IBM, RedHat, Google). We live currently (subject to change) in a time where it seems to be accepted in some form, at various sites where free information is provided, that some ads will be seen on the sidebars that pay the way for this free information. Have we extended a special invitation for those involved in Google Summer of Code to come see what LGM is all about, so we can generate some esteem on their part for our various projects? It doesn't matter if this year's GSoC is already decided by the time LGM2011 happens. Have we rolled out the red carpet (so to speak) for HP, with its heavy investment and involvement in graphics printing, to be an honored guest at LGM? (With the tacit backup of contacting Canon or Epson or Brother or Lexmark -- ok, we'll be happy with money, but we want you to come too) Have we talked to any of these people about linking to LGM from their sites? (we're really not threatening to them in any way -- we're pretty benign compared to their real competitors) Let's make LGM2011 viral. Greg ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] Access to LGM website
Hi, my account is rejon Would love to have access and help relieve pressure where possible. I agree, yes, we need more of a plan and try to stick to it. Jon On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 5:26 PM, a.l.e ale.comp...@xox.ch wrote: hi louis, We need to improve the access to the LGM website. I have a limited access to the LGM website at the moment but this access is broken. I have currently no way to edit the text in the website. At 9 weeks before LGM, this is wrong. you have access to the website just as you had before (i can't check since i don't know your password... but i'm sure that there was no change on that side!) i guess you have just to type correctly your username and password. you can create a new account if you prefer and tell me which one it is. ciao a.l.e ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create -- Jon Phillips http://rejon.org/ | http://fabricatorz.com/ chat/skype: kidproto | irc: rejon +1.415.830.3884 (global) | +1-510-499-0894 (sf) ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
[CREATE] Access to LGM website
Hi Guys, We need to improve the access to the LGM website. I have a limited access to the LGM website at the moment but this access is broken. I have currently no way to edit the text in the website. At 9 weeks before LGM, this is wrong. We need to be able to put stuff on the website at just about any time, or reset access when it's broken, or whatever ! :) As we get closer to the LGM, it becomes clearly critical that we need to let in at least one or two knowledgeable person(s) who could handle the code when one of us is not available. A few people have access to the server and they seem to be all in the same time zone or very busy elsewhere. We need more flexibility. Can we address this quickly — I mean now? Thanks. Louis -- Louis Desjardins libregraphicsmeeting.org +1 514 994 9351 (Cell) +1 514 934 1353 ext. 121 ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] Access to LGM website
hi A few people have access to the server and they seem to be all in the same time zone or very busy elsewhere. We need more flexibility. Can we address this quickly — I mean now? we have a web team and if somebody want to join he or she is welcome. but i'd prefer not to have angry people who only see their short time -- missed -- deadline screwing up everything. basicaplly, in my eyes, people who just want to do small edits on the site should access it through the web and not through ssh. ciao a.l.e ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] Access to LGM website
2011/3/18 a.l.e ale.comp...@xox.ch hi louis, We need to improve the access to the LGM website. I have a limited access to the LGM website at the moment but this access is broken. I have currently no way to edit the text in the website. At 9 weeks before LGM, this is wrong. you have access to the website just as you had before (i can't check since i don't know your password... but i'm sure that there was no change on that side!) i guess you have just to type correctly your username and password. The fact is I can get in as I mentionned, but I cannot edit. Something is wrong. you can create a new account if you prefer and tell me which one it is. So, please delete the account you have for me so there will be no confusion and once I have the go, I will create a new user. Louis ciao a.l.e ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create -- Louis Desjardins libregraphicsmeeting.org +1 514 994 9351 (Cell) +1 514 934 1353 ext. 121 ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] Access to LGM website
hi yuval. On March 18, 2011 06:39:01 pm a.l.e wrote: in my eyes, people who just want to do small edits on the site should access it through the web and not through ssh. I don't know the exact architecture of the site and I may be suggesting something that is not feasible: why not having the code in a mercurial repository with a cron job (or better: a hook) that updates it automatically from the repository? every project member can access [0], whether occasional small edits or major redesign. That's going to be a lot less headache for you (or whoever is managing the site), and with revision control you can easily undo if somebody screwed up. You can also branch out development of the next year and test it and turn it on only when it is ready... interesting concept. the content is managed in a wiki form and is stored in a database. the access to the server is only need to modify the forms and the templates. personally, i haven't yet used mercurial yet (nor git; i still normally use svn, which is not ok to publish a website). let's see how we will manage the site next year... i think that we will give up with anwiki. mercurial could then be a way to manage it! ciao a.l.e ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
Re: [CREATE] Access to LGM website
we can't change things now? we all just want to help make things better... On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 6:57 PM, a.l.e ale.comp...@xox.ch wrote: hi yuval. On March 18, 2011 06:39:01 pm a.l.e wrote: in my eyes, people who just want to do small edits on the site should access it through the web and not through ssh. I don't know the exact architecture of the site and I may be suggesting something that is not feasible: why not having the code in a mercurial repository with a cron job (or better: a hook) that updates it automatically from the repository? every project member can access [0], whether occasional small edits or major redesign. That's going to be a lot less headache for you (or whoever is managing the site), and with revision control you can easily undo if somebody screwed up. You can also branch out development of the next year and test it and turn it on only when it is ready... interesting concept. the content is managed in a wiki form and is stored in a database. the access to the server is only need to modify the forms and the templates. personally, i haven't yet used mercurial yet (nor git; i still normally use svn, which is not ok to publish a website). let's see how we will manage the site next year... i think that we will give up with anwiki. mercurial could then be a way to manage it! ciao a.l.e ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create -- Jon Phillips http://rejon.org/ | http://fabricatorz.com/ chat/skype: kidproto | irc: rejon +1.415.830.3884 (global) | +1-510-499-0894 (sf) ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
