Re: [CREATE] LGM-organiser meet in Madrid, today 18:00

2013-04-14 Thread Femke Snelting

Dear Greg and Lila and all concerned by the future of LGM,

Thank you both for your constructive comments!
In the organisers-meeting there has been some steps made towards clarifying the 
decision making process, and updating the requirements list. A decision on the 
next venue should be reached by 15 May. We also established a 'global' 
organising team with different tasks including infrastructure, a content team 
and a sponsor team. A report of the meeting can be found here: 
http://lgm2013.titanpad.com/4

If you are interested in following the discussion, or want to contribute to 
organising LGM, please sign up to the LGM-organisers list; we would like to 
continue the discussion there: 
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libre-graphics-meeting

The CREATE list is for anything Libre Graphics related; your ideas, reports, 
specific projects etc. Keep them coming!


Femke

On 15/04/13 03:43, Gregory Pittman wrote:

Some generic comments about LGM site selection.

I'm concerned that the decision-making about the most imminent LGM can become 
such a wide-open process.
For 2014, the only sites under discussion should be places where there is a 
proposal of a specific site, with a clear organizer or group, who hopefully 
have some track record of being able to organize events. Obviously, previous 
sites and organizers have a leg up on this, but we can't afford last minute 
surprises. I would hate to see a bad or poorly attended LGM. This year we had 
the strength and knowledge of Femke, but even so the internet connection was 
quite inadequate for a technology-oriented group.

For two years into the future, then some proposals can be more tenuous, but 
even so there should be some champion who can flesh out some details about who 
will organize the event, know  that there is local support of services and 
maybe even money, and some concrete details about what the community has to 
offer specifically regarding LGM.

I enjoy traveling, and certainly have ideas about what places I would like to 
visit some day, but LGM isn't some travelogue that always must seek out new 
places to go. I think what we want is that each meeting is a success and each 
in some way better than the last.

Perhaps one thing which might help would be the creation of a manual of sorts 
which details the particular needs which LGM has, so that anyone proposing to 
host LGM knows what they need to put together.

Greg


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Re: [CREATE] LGM-organiser meet in Madrid, today 18:00

2013-04-14 Thread Gregory Pittman

Some generic comments about LGM site selection.

I'm concerned that the decision-making about the most imminent LGM can 
become such a wide-open process.
For 2014, the only sites under discussion should be places where there 
is a proposal of a specific site, with a clear organizer or group, who 
hopefully have some track record of being able to organize events. 
Obviously, previous sites and organizers have a leg up on this, but we 
can't afford last minute surprises. I would hate to see a bad or poorly 
attended LGM. This year we had the strength and knowledge of Femke, but 
even so the internet connection was quite inadequate for a 
technology-oriented group.


For two years into the future, then some proposals can be more tenuous, 
but even so there should be some champion who can flesh out some details 
about who will organize the event, know  that there is local support of 
services and maybe even money, and some concrete details about what the 
community has to offer specifically regarding LGM.


I enjoy traveling, and certainly have ideas about what places I would 
like to visit some day, but LGM isn't some travelogue that always must 
seek out new places to go. I think what we want is that each meeting is 
a success and each in some way better than the last.


Perhaps one thing which might help would be the creation of a manual of 
sorts which details the particular needs which LGM has, so that anyone 
proposing to host LGM knows what they need to put together.


Greg


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Re: [CREATE] LGM-organiser meet in Madrid, today 18:00

2013-04-14 Thread Lila Pagola
Hi everybody,

First of all I want to apologize because I couldn't be present yesterday in
this meeting, and I was very tired at the closing session for sharing some
ideas.

So, a little of context, regarding the effects of the idea of hosting the
next LGM in some country of Latin America, which emerged several times in
the closing session.
I live in Argentina, and I'm a member of several organizations of free
culture of the country: Creative Commons Argentina, Wikimedia Argentina,
Fundaciòn Vía Libre, and of course, of the community of gràfica libre
http://www.graficalibre.org/, where actually is a kind of "discussion"
around this nice possibility of hosting LGM in the future.

Beyond I would love the LGM 2014 or 2015 be in Argentina, I want to share
some previous experiences, since I think could be useful to this and next
similar processes of deciding the next LGMs.

This is my second LGM, and it was an absolutely a great one. My first one
was 2010, in Brussels, also a great one, and I want to thank organizers for
these experiences.

>From the closing session, I have a strong sensation of "deja vu", regarding
the problems and expectations that emerged, and specially about this way of
trying of deciding the next place for LGM "on the fly", during the closing
session.

I would like to share some ideas and experiences of other free culture
organizations I participate in, and again, I'm sorry I could'nt do it
yesterday "alive".

First case: Wikimania, the annual international meeting of wikipedian
people of the world, an event gathering more than 700 people. The hosting
country of the next Wikimania is decided trough a "bid" ot the different
teams interested, on a basis of support and funding granted by Wikimedia
Foundation. Argentina for instance, hosted Wikimania in 2009.

Here more info: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2014_bids

Second case: the Creative Commons Summit. Also the annual meeting of CC
chapters of the world, this year will be hosted also in Buenos Aires, in
next August. The procedure for deciding the hosting country is similar to
Wikimania, through bids also, and with a basis of funding granted for any
hosting country, through the Creative Commons NGO.

So, I closely know how much work implies organizing such an event, and I
consider it's not a good idea to offer your country while the emotion of a
great LGM is still on the body :)

I can give more details on this procedures if somebody wants to know more,
or even we can ask for a formal advice of Wikimedia Foundation or Creative
Commons people, in order to learn from their experiences.

So, my opinion is LGM have grown a lot and should evolutionate to a new
stage, with a formal organization such as a Foundation or similar, for
getting and managing funding in a transparent and formal way, and then
"move" this funds where we think is more strategic to be present, as could
be the case of many countries of Latin America or Asia.

Sorry for the long email, and I look for your comments.
Saludos,
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[CREATE] LGM-organiser meet in Madrid, today 18:00

2013-04-13 Thread Femke Snelting

If you want to help organise LGM in the future, please meet us in front of 
Medialab Prado at 18:00

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