Re: [Crm-sig] Location of a Group

[Franco Niccolucci]

I would go for

P74 has current or former residence E53 place

which has domain E39 Actor, the superclass of your E74 and is thus
inherited by E74.

Its scope note states:
"This property describes the current or former E53 Place of residence of an
E39 Actor. The residence may be either the Place where the Actor resides,
or a legally registered address of any kind."
which seems to be what you are looking for.
At first sight, no way to state the time span of such residence,
untortunately.
Best,
Franco


Il martedì 6 settembre 2016, Jean-Baptiste Pressac <
jean-baptiste.pres...@univ-brest.fr> ha scritto:

> Hello,
>
> This should not be the place for user questions, sorry for that. However,
> I am wondering how to declare with the CIDOC-CRM that a E74 Group (a
> company, a University, a craftman and his employees, a religious community,
> a books editor) occupied one or many locations (in a broader meaning :
> cities, buidings, states). I could declare that the E74 Group *P52 is
> current owner of* one or more buildings (E22 Man-Made Object ?) which *P53
> has former or current location* E53 Place. But some groups do not own the
> buildings they occupy. What is more, are E22 Man-Made Object the only way
> to link E74 Group to E53 Place ?
> Thank you,
>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Pressac
>
> Traitement et analyse de bases de données
> Production et diffusion de corpus numériques
>
> Centre de Recherche Bretonne et Celtique
> Unité mixte de service (UMS) 3554
> 20 rue Duquesne
> CS 93837
> 29238 Brest cedex 3
>
> tel : +33 (0)2 98 01 68 95
> fax : +33 (0)2 98 01 63 93
>
>

Re: [Crm-sig] #cidocCRM & #UIMA type system harmony & where to discuss#PRESSoo

[Jim Salmons]

Patrick, Clement, Martin and the #FRBRoo ‘subSIG’,

 

This is indeed an encouraging development for the #PRESSoo model as the IFLA
has shown a long-standing interest and support for the
intersection/harmonization of the #cidocCRM and #FRBR models
(http://www.ifla.org/node/928).

 

For my part (and after the “dust settles” from our impending move of our
home from Iowa to Colorado, USA), as mentioned in my prior post I am working
on an example dataset for the Softalk magazine collection that will show how
the #PRESSoo Issuing Rule and Issuing Rule Change classes can be used for a
fine-grained magazine-design pattern language that can used to shift the
focus for layout- and text-recognition from the bottom-up/within-page
strategy to a top-down/whole-issue strategy. My dataset is focused on the
evolving design patterns for Softalk’s TOC (Table of Contents), masthead,
and Ad Index sections (dataset on GitHub: https://goo.gl/5NVI12).

 

I especially want this example to show the potential need for (or to find a
recommended work-around for) an Issuing Rule Exception class to enable the
use of #PRESSoo’s Issuing Rule components as a means to bring accumulated
design pattern knowledge into the bulk digitization workflow. For example,
the Softalk Issuing Rule dataset will become the foundation for a
“commercial magazine design pattern book” to be developed as a Special
Research Collection at the Internet Archive.

 

It sounds like the newly-forming IFLA-based #PRESSoo Review Group will be
the place for such discussion or at least occasional updates on my
progress/interests.

 

Thank you again, Patrick, for the information and link,

 

-: Jim :-

 

From: Crm-sig [mailto:crm-sig-boun...@ics.forth.gr] On Behalf Of
patrick.le-bo...@bnf.fr
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To: crm-sig@ics.forth.gr
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Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] #cidocCRM & #UIMA type system harmony & where to
discuss#PRESSoo

 

Hi Jim,
PRESSoo is no longer an ISSN.org model, it has been endorsed by the IFLA
Cataloguing Section and is currently in the process of being validated by
the IFLA Committee on Standards. If everything goes well, it should be
released under an IFLA cover by the end of this year. You will find more
(although not enough) info from: <  
http://www.ifla.org/node/10410>. In order to communicate with the PRESSoo
Review Group, which has no dedicated discussion list (so far), the best
thing is to contact directly its chair, Clément Oury, to whom I cc this
email.
Best wishes,
Patrick Le Boeuf


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SIG folk,

In quick follow-up to my inquiry soliciting insights and kindred spirits
regarding my applied research interest in harmonizing the type system models
such that #UIMA frameworks and tools can be grounded in the #cidocCRM, I am
happy to report the following two topical updates along with a quick
#PRESSoo-related question (most likely best answered by SIG member Patrick
Le Boeuf):

 *  I had a helpful and encouraging direct message from SIG member Doug
Tudhope who served as Andreas Vlachidis' dissertation supervisor providing
additional details of their research interests, projects, and an offer to
answer questions related to Andreas' "Semantic Indexing via Knowledge
Organization Systems: Applying the CIDOC-CRM to Archaeological Grey
Literature" (  http://goo.gl/s7hxyq).) 
 
 *  I surfaced a VERY INTERESTING article, "Abstracting the types away from
a UIMA type system" (via: ReseardchGate.net at  
https://goo.gl/kLs3Vw). This
paper is from a group of research computer scientists at the Colorado
Computational Pharmacology research center at the U. of Colorado Denver
( 
http://compbio.ucdenver.edu/Hunter_lab/). This brilliant paper describes
the CCP's proposal for the implementation of a #UIMA type system that is a
lightweight metamodel with flexibility/interoperability (harmonious
ontological mapping) achieved by referencing an external object model
containing the full semantic complexity desired for the #UIMA application
(or more typically, the compositional pipeline of #UIMA workflow
frameworks/components that 

[Crm-sig] Location of a Group

[Jean-Baptiste Pressac]

Hello,

This should not be the place for user questions, sorry for that. 
However, I am wondering how to declare with the CIDOC-CRM that a E74 
Group (a company, a University, a craftman and his employees, a 
religious community, a books editor) occupied one or many locations (in 
a broader meaning : cities, buidings, states). I could declare that the 
E74 Group /P52 is current owner of/ one or more buildings (E22 Man-Made 
Object ?) which /P53 has former or current location/ E53 Place. But some 
groups do not own the buildings they occupy. What is more, are E22 
Man-Made Object the only way to link E74 Group to E53 Place ?


Thank you,

--
Jean-Baptiste Pressac

Traitement et analyse de bases de données
Production et diffusion de corpus numériques

Centre de Recherche Bretonne et Celtique
Unité mixte de service (UMS) 3554
20 rue Duquesne
CS 93837
29238 Brest cedex 3

tel : +33 (0)2 98 01 68 95
fax : +33 (0)2 98 01 63 93

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