Re: [Crm-sig] Associative relationship mapping

[Stephen Stead]

I would probably model these in one of two ways depending on the nature of
the general association.

A] As parts of a larger physical man made thing; so in your example the
telephone box and the exchange a part of a regional telecommunications
system which in turn is part of a national telecommunications system.

B] As both being present/participating in a period, event or activity; so
this Napoleonic sea fort and this Napoleonic military canal are constructed
as events that form part of the Napoleonic British Defence Period.

I suppose as a last resort you could create an Information Object which
refers to them all and name the Information Object as "A list of things
which I am interested in for X reason"; your essay of why could then be
attached via P3 has note. In this case what you are modelling is not the
relationship between the things but your/your organisation's believe that
there is a relationship (however tenuous!) between them.

HTH

SdS



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From: Crm-sig [mailto:crm-sig-boun...@ics.forth.gr] On Behalf Of Carlisle,
Philip
Sent: 15 September 2016 11:16
To: crm-sig (Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr) 
Subject: [Crm-sig] Associative relationship mapping



Hi all,



The Arches project moves on a pace and is in the process of modifying the
graphs for version 4.



In the original graphs we used a British Museum extension property
(PXX_is_related_to) as a work around to allow us to represent the general
association relationship we had in legacy datasets. eg. this telephone kiosk
has a general association with this telephone exchange.



We now want to continue to be able to model a general association but the
only property available P69 has association with (is associated with) is
restricted in its domain and range to E29 Design or Procedure.



How do we model the 'If you're interested in that you might be interested in
this' nature of the general association between two physical man made
things?



All thoughts appreciated.



Phil



Phil Carlisle

Knowledge Organization Specialist

Listing Group, Historic England

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[Crm-sig] Associative relationship mapping

[Carlisle, Philip]

Hi all,

The Arches project moves on a pace and is in the process of modifying the 
graphs for version 4.

In the original graphs we used a British Museum extension property 
(PXX_is_related_to) as a work around to allow us to represent the general 
association relationship we had in legacy datasets. eg. this telephone kiosk 
has a general association with this telephone exchange.

We now want to continue to be able to model a general association but the only 
property available P69 has association with (is associated with) is restricted 
in its domain and range to E29 Design or Procedure.

How do we model the 'If you're interested in that you might be interested in 
this' nature of the general association between two physical man made things?

All thoughts appreciated.

Phil

Phil Carlisle
Knowledge Organization Specialist
Listing Group, Historic England
Direct Dial: +44 (0)1793 414824

http://thesaurus.historicengland.org.uk/
http://www.heritagedata.org/blog/

Listing Information Services fosters an environment where colleagues are valued 
for their skills and knowledge, and where communication, customer focus and 
working in partnership are at the heart of everything we do.

[Crm-sig] Bibliography

[patrick . le-boeuf]

Dear all,
A new entry for the bibliography on CIDOC CRM:
< http://leo.cineca.it/index.php/jlis/article/view/11930 >
(I haven't read it yet)
Best wishes,
Patrick
Exposition : 
Chorégraphes américains à l'Opéra de Paris, de Balanchine à Forsythe  - 
jusqu'au 25 septembre 2016 - Bibliothèque-musée de l'Opéra  Avant d'imprimer, 
pensez à l'environnement.