I vote YES, change.
The point is that S23 describes implicitly the simultaneous measurements
of the contributing parameters, typically two or three, necessary for a
position determination and the resulting position. The contributing
measurements may be specified explicitly as parts of it. But the
resulting position is that at the time of observation *as *the observed
values suggest, and *not any *calculation of a position of something at
a different time and place. If the resulting position is calculated at a
bit later time exclusively from the observed values, is not relevant.
Modern GIS systems do not give details, but also historical records
often do not.
E.g. "The position measured by Alexander von Humboldt for the Plaza
Mayor in Cumaná, Sucre, Venezuela 1799-1800AD (E53) place is defined by
10°27'52"N 66°30'02"W (Example for P168)." Humboldt refers to the
measurement only like that "in this night I could observe some stars to
determine the position of..." and the position. He mentions how he was
maintaining his clock, one of the best of his time.
Best,
Martin
On 3/4/2023 8:13 PM, Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig wrote:
Dear all,
Many thanks to those of you who voted for the CRMsci examples in the
last e-vote which will be added to the document.
In the process of discussing these examples with several of you, there
was a strong view that the current label of S23 Position Measurement
is confusing. I appreciate that the role of labels is to reminder us
of the scope note and in general we avoid arguing too much about them.
I would not normally call for an e-vote on a label, but this is the
first time that S23 is formalised in a stable CRMsci version so it is
worth getting it right so that we do not have to change it.
The proposal is to change the label,
from: S23 Position Measurement
to: S23 Position Determination
S23 is not a measurement in the sense of S21. Including the word
"measurement" in the label will confuse people referring to this class.
Please vote YES if you agree with this change. Please vote NO if you
disagree giving some rationale.
If we go ahead with this change, it will mean that some editorial
changes are necessary in other parts of the document for consistency
which Athina and I are happy to do.
Many thanks for your patience with this version of CRMsci. We are very
nearly there.
All the best,
Thanasis
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