Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Trying to aggregate source features using b3 aggregator editor

2013-05-23 Thread Sievers, Jan
opened https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=408786

As a workaround, you could disable binary feature inclusion using

plugin
  groupIdorg.eclipse.tycho.extras/groupId
  artifactIdtycho-source-feature-plugin/artifactId
  version${tycho-version}/version
  configuration
includeBinaryFeaturefalse/includeBinaryFeature  
  /configuration
/plugin

(since tycho 0.17.0 [1])

Regards
Jan

[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=401420 


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From: cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org 
[mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Johnston
Sent: Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2013 18:51
To: cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Trying to aggregate source features 
using b3 aggregator editor

Thanks David,

I think you nailed it.  We are using tycho-extras to generate the source 
features from the regular features.  It isn't propagating the filters.

Each generated source feature has an include of the regular feature in it.

-- Jeff J.

On 05/21/2013 09:37 PM, David M Williams wrote:
 Off hand, I'd guess related to filters. I've not looked in detail, but
 nothing obviously wrong with your file or repo. But ... for filters,
 it's complicated to get them right for everything ... and sure you'd
 want your source filtered, or might not display in all standalone
 info servers (not sure about that ... just saying, should be tested).
 But, back to filters ...

 Just to give an example,
 Let's say
  org.eclipse.linuxtools.callgraph.feature.feature.group
 installs in a aggregator just fine. That means it an all its bundles
 have a matching set of features, say to limit installation on to linux
 only platforms.

 Now, if when your source is added
  org.eclipse.linuxtools.callgraph.feature.source.feature.group

 It may report can not find
 org.eclipse.linuxtools.callgraph.feature.feature.group but what it may
 really mean (or, should say) is
 can not find [it] while trying to install [source.group] for windows.

 So, that's just a thought ... make sure your source features/bundles
 have all the same filters as your code (since ... your source requires
 your code ... which is a bit odd anyway, but  maybe a separate issues).

 HTH





 From: Jeff Johnston jjohn...@redhat.com
 To: Cross project issues cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org,
 Date: 05/21/2013 02:53 PM
 Subject: [cross-project-issues-dev] Trying to aggregate source features
 using b3 aggregator editor
 Sent by: cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org
 



 I am trying to add the Linux Tools source features (without categories)
 so end-users can install them if desired.

 When I add these features to the linuxtools.b3aggrcon file, I am getting
 an error trying to validate the aggregation.  The source features
 require the normal features and the b3 aggregator editor is saying that
 the feature is missing.

 The missing feature in question is also in the b3aggrcon file (with
 category) and is found when validating the repository.  If I remove the
 source features, the aggregation validates fine.

 Below is the actual message.  Is there something wrong with our repo or
 is it a known issue with the b3 aggregator editor trying to have new
 feature groups requiring other new feature groups?

 I have attached the b3aggrcon file for reference.

 -- Jeff J.

 ===

 Cannot complete the install because one or more required items could not
 be found.
 Missing requirement: C/C++ Call Graph Visualization Developer Resources
 1.1.0.201305211237
 (org.eclipse.linuxtools.callgraph.feature.source.feature.group
 1.1.0.201305211237) requires
 'org.eclipse.linuxtools.callgraph.feature.feature.group
 [1.1.0.201305211237]' but it could not be found

 InstallableUnit(org.eclipse.linuxtools.callgraph.feature.feature.group
 [1.1.0.201305211237,1.1.0.201305211237]) is required by:
ValidationSet(main)
  Contribution(Linux Tools)

 MappedRepository(http://download.eclipse.org/linuxtools/update-kepler-rc1)

 Feature(org.eclipse.linuxtools.callgraph.feature.source.feature.group
 1.1.0.201305211237)

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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Status and outlook for RC1 ... its going to be a late night!

2013-05-23 Thread Greg Watson

On May 22, 2013, at 11:43 PM, David M Williams david_willi...@us.ibm.com 
wrote:

 There's no change in policy. Projects choose to be in the (our) common repo. 
 Part of that is to provide valid input to the build. Normally the tools work 
 well to send out notifications for problems. Occasionally the contributed 
 input is so bad that the tool can't even read it well enough to find the 
 email addresses. You can wait until someone tells you that, if you'd like. 
 But, as tonight, sometimes that takes 3 or 4 hours (or longer) for someone 
 else to notice. As you said, you were waiting for a build ... how long 
 would you wait before you looked at 
 https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/view/Repository%20Aggregation/job/simrel.kepler.runaggregator/
  ? 

I looked at it and the error was exec returned: 13. How am I supposed to know 
that this is related to ptp? Is your expectation that I should dig into how it 
works to determine what is causing this problem? I don't think so.

 
 The automatic notifications may be deceptive, because they say they are from 
 me  but  its all automated. I do not send them. I do not even see 
 most of them ... at least, usually, until after the contributors have already 
 fixed their problem. If it fails so badly that it can not find email 
 addresses, I get an RSS notification that the Hudson failed. But, you may be 
 surprised to hear, I am not on-line monitoring that queue 24 hours a day! 

Come on David, you said that it was ptp breaking the builds... and you 
...spent an extra hour of my time fixing that. So you obviously knew there 
was a problem, but chose not to inform anyone about it.

 
 And, I'll be blunt, I'm sensitive to this for the PTP project, because 
 similar things have happened several times before, most recently in M7... 
 also last minute. (I know, I know, you were on vacation then :) 
 
 But, I somehow how get the impression your project has not yet learned the 
 convenience of using the b3 aggregator editor, a requirement that is well 
 documented in 
 http://wiki.eclipse.org/Simrel/Contributing_to_Simrel_Aggregation_Build 
 Maybe it should be named the b3 repository interactive compiler and you'd 
 have a different impression of it :)  But seriously, you say you have no 
 idea how the aggregation works. Well, if you want to know, here it is: it 
 works just like p2 installing software ... and does a few extra quality 
 checks.  And, if it can read the addresses, it sends email if it can not 
 install someone's contribution. That's about it. 
 
 If I may, I'll quote another contributor who recently learned to use it ... 
 that is, after I suggested him to use the validate and validate aggregation 
 functions ... 
  Sure enough I am impressed :-) That was easy and it does stuff :-)  

Actually the change was made using the b3 aggregation editor. I was going to 
make the change by hand because the editor doesn't appear to work for me in 
kepler, but Beth insisted on using it. So whatever went wrong was caused by 
your own tools.

 
 I hope a few of my comments are constructive and encouraging, I don't mean to 
 argue about it. 
 
 But, I am pretty firm about schedules. And you've not answered any of my 
 original questions (except to provide a bug number), so if you'd like an 
 exception, I'll ask you go through the full Planning Council exception 
 process: 
 http://wiki.eclipse.org/SimRel/Simultaneous_Release_Requirements#Planning_Council_Exception_Process
  
 (And, BTW, I'm not blind to the fact that is it a very bad bug ... but ... at 
 the time of this writing, it doesn't say very much, such as what the fix is, 
 if there are workarounds, etc. 

Although the fix has zero chance of affecting anyone, I don't think it's worth 
the chance that there will be build problems at this late stage.

 
 Seriously, thanks for your comments and and thanks for your contributions to 
 Eclipse. 
   
 
 
 
 
 From:Greg Watson g.wat...@computer.org 
 To:Cross project issues cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org, 
 Date:05/22/2013 10:28 PM 
 Subject:Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Status and outlook for RC1 
...itsgoing to be a late night! 
 Sent by:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org 
 
 
 
 David, 
 
 Somewhat late at night to be arguing, but I find this statement perplexing: 
 
 All projects are responsible for making sure the build works, notified or 
 not.   
 
 I have no idea how the aggregation works, nor have I seen any policy that 
 indicates that I need to. I'm happy to take responsibility for our repo, but 
 I think those responsible for the aggregation are also responsible for 
 contacting projects if there are any problems. Isn't this is why we are 
 listed as contacts in the simrel.b3aggr file, after all?  As far as I'm 
 aware, this is how it has worked in the past. Are you proposing a change to 
 the process? 
 
 Greg 
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[cross-project-issues-dev] SSH down on Build.eclipse.org?

2013-05-23 Thread Mark Russell
I can't get to build.eclipse.org via ssh.  But I can get there via http (
http://build.eclipse.org).  anyone else having issues or is it just
something local?

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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] SSH down on Build.eclipse.org?

2013-05-23 Thread Bob Brodt
I'm able to ssh to this server - it must be you ;) 

Bob 

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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] SSH down on Build.eclipse.org?

2013-05-23 Thread Campo, Christian
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] SSH down on Build.eclipse.org?

2013-05-23 Thread Beth Tibbitts

Works for me. Are you coming in from a new IP addr where it sends you email
to confirm it's really you?

...Beth

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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Status and outlook for RC1 ... its going to be a late night!

2013-05-23 Thread Sven.Rottstock
Hi Greg,

[1] shows that the build was triggered by only one SCM change with the comment: 
For ptp, add org.eclipse.ptp.debug.sdm feature. Before of this change the 
build was working. So IMO it suggests itself that this commit was breaking the 
build.

BTW: This is exactly the way how I was checking that my change for Kepler RC1 
was not breaking the build (because it was my first commit into the simrel 
repo), that was obviously not that case [2] ;)

In general I would vote to use Gerrit and CI a little bit closer together how 
it is mentioned in [3]. But IMO this is not acceptable for such a build 
sprint.

[1] https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/job/simrel.kepler.runaggregator/476/
[2] https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/job/simrel.kepler.runaggregator/472/
[3] 
http://blogs.collab.net/teamforge/teamforge-git-gerrit-integration-with-jenkins-ci

Cheers,
Sven

Von: cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org 
[mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] Im Auftrag von Greg Watson
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Mai 2013 13:38
An: Cross project issues
Betreff: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Status and outlook for RC1 ... its 
going to be a late night!


On May 22, 2013, at 11:43 PM, David M Williams 
david_willi...@us.ibm.commailto:david_willi...@us.ibm.com wrote:


There's no change in policy. Projects choose to be in the (our) common repo. 
Part of that is to provide valid input to the build. Normally the tools work 
well to send out notifications for problems. Occasionally the contributed input 
is so bad that the tool can't even read it well enough to find the email 
addresses. You can wait until someone tells you that, if you'd like. But, as 
tonight, sometimes that takes 3 or 4 hours (or longer) for someone else to 
notice. As you said, you were waiting for a build ... how long would you wait 
before you looked at
https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/view/Repository%20Aggregation/job/simrel.kepler.runaggregator/
 ?

I looked at it and the error was exec returned: 13. How am I supposed to know 
that this is related to ptp? Is your expectation that I should dig into how it 
works to determine what is causing this problem? I don't think so.



The automatic notifications may be deceptive, because they say they are from 
me  but  its all automated. I do not send them. I do not even see 
most of them ... at least, usually, until after the contributors have already 
fixed their problem. If it fails so badly that it can not find email addresses, 
I get an RSS notification that the Hudson failed. But, you may be surprised to 
hear, I am not on-line monitoring that queue 24 hours a day!

Come on David, you said that it was ptp breaking the builds... and you 
...spent an extra hour of my time fixing that. So you obviously knew there 
was a problem, but chose not to inform anyone about it.



And, I'll be blunt, I'm sensitive to this for the PTP project, because similar 
things have happened several times before, most recently in M7... also last 
minute. (I know, I know, you were on vacation then :)

But, I somehow how get the impression your project has not yet learned the 
convenience of using the b3 aggregator editor, a requirement that is well 
documented in
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Simrel/Contributing_to_Simrel_Aggregation_Build
Maybe it should be named the b3 repository interactive compiler and you'd 
have a different impression of it :)  But seriously, you say you have no idea 
how the aggregation works. Well, if you want to know, here it is: it works 
just like p2 installing software ... and does a few extra quality checks.  And, 
if it can read the addresses, it sends email if it can not install someone's 
contribution. That's about it.

If I may, I'll quote another contributor who recently learned to use it ... 
that is, after I suggested him to use the validate and validate aggregation 
functions ...
 Sure enough I am impressed :-) That was easy and it does stuff :-) 

Actually the change was made using the b3 aggregation editor. I was going to 
make the change by hand because the editor doesn't appear to work for me in 
kepler, but Beth insisted on using it. So whatever went wrong was caused by 
your own tools.



I hope a few of my comments are constructive and encouraging, I don't mean to 
argue about it.

But, I am pretty firm about schedules. And you've not answered any of my 
original questions (except to provide a bug number), so if you'd like an 
exception, I'll ask you go through the full Planning Council exception process:
http://wiki.eclipse.org/SimRel/Simultaneous_Release_Requirements#Planning_Council_Exception_Process
(And, BTW, I'm not blind to the fact that is it a very bad bug ... but ... at 
the time of this writing, it doesn't say very much, such as what the fix is, if 
there are workarounds, etc.

Although the fix has zero chance of affecting anyone, I don't think it's worth 
the chance that there will be build problems at this late stage.



Seriously, thanks for your 

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] SSH down on Build.eclipse.org?

2013-05-23 Thread Webmaster(Matt Ward)

I've just checked and the service is responding.

Most likely it's one of 2 things:

1) You've been blocked due to multiple 'bad' logins (from you, or 
someone else on your subnet)
2) If this is the first time you've connected from your current IP, a 
block was created and an 'unblock' email was sent to the address we have 
on file for you(unless another committer on your subnet did it first)


If you send your IP to Webmaster I'll go digging.

-Matt.

On 05/23/2013 09:32 AM, Mark Russell wrote:
I can't get to build.eclipse.org http://build.eclipse.org via ssh. 
 But I can get there via http (http://build.eclipse.org).  anyone else 
having issues or is it just something local?


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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Status and outlook for RC1 ... its going to be a late night!

2013-05-23 Thread Campo, Christian
Hi,

maybe I can step up here, since comments from me :-) are already in this 
thread. I have to admit that Riena had problems with the aggregation too in the 
past.

I also thought for a long time (actually years) that the only way to try a 
new contribution is to build, sign, upload, change b3aggrcon,commit,push wait 
for the aggregation to kick off and pray that there is a reasonable result 
while I am still awake. (because of the time difference sometimes). Try a new 
run while its actually already after bed-time in my country.

Now yesterday I found that all you need to do is run Eclipse, with 
org.eclipse.simrel.build checked out in your workspace and the b3 aggregator 
editor installed (i.e. 
http://download.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/b3/updates-4.2/)

Now I can try to add a new version of Riena, build, sign, upload, change 
b3aggrcon but now instead of committing,pushing, praying (you remember from 
above) you can in the aggregation editor right click and say Validate 
Aggregation. It takes under 5 minutes and you get exactly the same message 
that you have to search and find in the aggregation build  console.
Of course you can also locally disable other projects that get in the way of 
validating your project.

Really really EASY and I wish I had tried that years ago

Christian campo

Von: cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org 
[mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] Im Auftrag von 
sven.rottst...@sungard.com
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Mai 2013 15:44
An: cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org
Betreff: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Status and outlook for RC1 ... its 
going to be a late night!

Hi Greg,

[1] shows that the build was triggered by only one SCM change with the comment: 
For ptp, add org.eclipse.ptp.debug.sdm feature. Before of this change the 
build was working. So IMO it suggests itself that this commit was breaking the 
build.

BTW: This is exactly the way how I was checking that my change for Kepler RC1 
was not breaking the build (because it was my first commit into the simrel 
repo), that was obviously not that case [2] ;)

In general I would vote to use Gerrit and CI a little bit closer together how 
it is mentioned in [3]. But IMO this is not acceptable for such a build 
sprint.

[1] https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/job/simrel.kepler.runaggregator/476/
[2] https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/job/simrel.kepler.runaggregator/472/
[3] 
http://blogs.collab.net/teamforge/teamforge-git-gerrit-integration-with-jenkins-ci

Cheers,
Sven

Von: 
cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.orgmailto:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org
 [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] Im Auftrag von Greg 
Watson
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Mai 2013 13:38
An: Cross project issues
Betreff: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Status and outlook for RC1 ... its 
going to be a late night!


On May 22, 2013, at 11:43 PM, David M Williams 
david_willi...@us.ibm.commailto:david_willi...@us.ibm.com wrote:

There's no change in policy. Projects choose to be in the (our) common repo. 
Part of that is to provide valid input to the build. Normally the tools work 
well to send out notifications for problems. Occasionally the contributed input 
is so bad that the tool can't even read it well enough to find the email 
addresses. You can wait until someone tells you that, if you'd like. But, as 
tonight, sometimes that takes 3 or 4 hours (or longer) for someone else to 
notice. As you said, you were waiting for a build ... how long would you wait 
before you looked at
https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/view/Repository%20Aggregation/job/simrel.kepler.runaggregator/
 ?

I looked at it and the error was exec returned: 13. How am I supposed to know 
that this is related to ptp? Is your expectation that I should dig into how it 
works to determine what is causing this problem? I don't think so.


The automatic notifications may be deceptive, because they say they are from 
me  but  its all automated. I do not send them. I do not even see 
most of them ... at least, usually, until after the contributors have already 
fixed their problem. If it fails so badly that it can not find email addresses, 
I get an RSS notification that the Hudson failed. But, you may be surprised to 
hear, I am not on-line monitoring that queue 24 hours a day!

Come on David, you said that it was ptp breaking the builds... and you 
...spent an extra hour of my time fixing that. So you obviously knew there 
was a problem, but chose not to inform anyone about it.


And, I'll be blunt, I'm sensitive to this for the PTP project, because similar 
things have happened several times before, most recently in M7... also last 
minute. (I know, I know, you were on vacation then :)

But, I somehow how get the impression your project has not yet learned the 
convenience of using the b3 aggregator editor, a requirement that is well 
documented in
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Simrel/Contributing_to_Simrel_Aggregation_Build

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Status and outlook for RC1 ... its going to be a late night!

2013-05-23 Thread Greg Watson
David,

BTW, I do appreciate all the work you do to ensure the releases are successful. 
It can be a bit frustrating when things don't go quite right, so we need to all 
work together to ensure that everything goes as smoothly as possible.

Cheers,
Greg


On May 23, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Greg Watson g.wat...@computer.org wrote:

 
 On May 22, 2013, at 11:43 PM, David M Williams david_willi...@us.ibm.com 
 wrote:
 
 There's no change in policy. Projects choose to be in the (our) common repo. 
 Part of that is to provide valid input to the build. Normally the tools work 
 well to send out notifications for problems. Occasionally the contributed 
 input is so bad that the tool can't even read it well enough to find the 
 email addresses. You can wait until someone tells you that, if you'd like. 
 But, as tonight, sometimes that takes 3 or 4 hours (or longer) for someone 
 else to notice. As you said, you were waiting for a build ... how long 
 would you wait before you looked at 
 https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/view/Repository%20Aggregation/job/simrel.kepler.runaggregator/
  ? 
 
 I looked at it and the error was exec returned: 13. How am I supposed to 
 know that this is related to ptp? Is your expectation that I should dig into 
 how it works to determine what is causing this problem? I don't think so.
 
 
 The automatic notifications may be deceptive, because they say they are from 
 me  but  its all automated. I do not send them. I do not even see 
 most of them ... at least, usually, until after the contributors have 
 already fixed their problem. If it fails so badly that it can not find email 
 addresses, I get an RSS notification that the Hudson failed. But, you may be 
 surprised to hear, I am not on-line monitoring that queue 24 hours a day! 
 
 Come on David, you said that it was ptp breaking the builds... and you 
 ...spent an extra hour of my time fixing that. So you obviously knew there 
 was a problem, but chose not to inform anyone about it.
 
 
 And, I'll be blunt, I'm sensitive to this for the PTP project, because 
 similar things have happened several times before, most recently in M7... 
 also last minute. (I know, I know, you were on vacation then :) 
 
 But, I somehow how get the impression your project has not yet learned the 
 convenience of using the b3 aggregator editor, a requirement that is well 
 documented in 
 http://wiki.eclipse.org/Simrel/Contributing_to_Simrel_Aggregation_Build 
 Maybe it should be named the b3 repository interactive compiler and you'd 
 have a different impression of it :)  But seriously, you say you have no 
 idea how the aggregation works. Well, if you want to know, here it is: it 
 works just like p2 installing software ... and does a few extra quality 
 checks.  And, if it can read the addresses, it sends email if it can not 
 install someone's contribution. That's about it. 
 
 If I may, I'll quote another contributor who recently learned to use it ... 
 that is, after I suggested him to use the validate and validate aggregation 
 functions ... 
  Sure enough I am impressed :-) That was easy and it does stuff :-)  
 
 Actually the change was made using the b3 aggregation editor. I was going to 
 make the change by hand because the editor doesn't appear to work for me in 
 kepler, but Beth insisted on using it. So whatever went wrong was caused by 
 your own tools.
 
 
 I hope a few of my comments are constructive and encouraging, I don't mean 
 to argue about it. 
 
 But, I am pretty firm about schedules. And you've not answered any of my 
 original questions (except to provide a bug number), so if you'd like an 
 exception, I'll ask you go through the full Planning Council exception 
 process: 
 http://wiki.eclipse.org/SimRel/Simultaneous_Release_Requirements#Planning_Council_Exception_Process
  
 (And, BTW, I'm not blind to the fact that is it a very bad bug ... but ... 
 at the time of this writing, it doesn't say very much, such as what the fix 
 is, if there are workarounds, etc. 
 
 Although the fix has zero chance of affecting anyone, I don't think it's 
 worth the chance that there will be build problems at this late stage.
 
 
 Seriously, thanks for your comments and and thanks for your contributions to 
 Eclipse. 
   
 
 
 
 
 From:Greg Watson g.wat...@computer.org 
 To:Cross project issues cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org, 
 Date:05/22/2013 10:28 PM 
 Subject:Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Status and outlook for RC1
 ...itsgoing to be a late night! 
 Sent by:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org 
 
 
 
 David, 
 
 Somewhat late at night to be arguing, but I find this statement perplexing: 
 
 All projects are responsible for making sure the build works, notified or 
 not.   
 
 I have no idea how the aggregation works, nor have I seen any policy that 
 indicates that I need to. I'm happy to take responsibility for our repo, but 
 I think those responsible for 

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] SSH down on Build.eclipse.org?

2013-05-23 Thread Oberhuber, Martin
Note that you'll have to send your _externally visible_ IP address, which is 
sometimes nontrivial to find out.
This may help:
http://www.whatismyip.com/

I've had that problem in the past when some colleague of mine accidentally had 
3 invalid logins in a row - your whole subnet gets locked out.

Thanks,
Martin
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From: cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org 
[mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] On Behalf Of 
Webmaster(Matt Ward)
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 3:44 PM
To: Cross project issues
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] SSH down on Build.eclipse.org?

I've just checked and the service is responding.

Most likely it's one of 2 things:

1) You've been blocked due to multiple 'bad' logins (from you, or someone else 
on your subnet)
2) If this is the first time you've connected from your current IP, a block was 
created and an 'unblock' email was sent to the address we have on file for 
you(unless another committer on your subnet did it first)

If you send your IP to Webmaster I'll go digging.

-Matt.

On 05/23/2013 09:32 AM, Mark Russell wrote:
I can't get to build.eclipse.orghttp://build.eclipse.org via ssh.  But I can 
get there via http (http://build.eclipse.org).  anyone else having issues or is 
it just something local?

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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Hudson seems to need a kick ...

2013-05-23 Thread Markus Knauer
As far as EPP is affected... it 'looks' like the last build finished
somehow, but what a surprise I'm unable to access Hudson, too. From my
point of view is a restart required... the sooner the better, because it's
blocking us, too.

Thanks,
Markus


On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 7:10 AM, David M Williams david_willi...@us.ibm.com
 wrote:

 I've been unable to access Hudson for past two hours. This does not impact
 the RC1 common repo ... I am not sure if EPP packages were finished
 building or not? But, I know it is blocking our Platform RC2 (due Friday).

 I've high jacked a similar bug open recently by Ed Willink [1] to raise
 its severity and document its impact.

 Just thought I'd inform this list, in case its impacting any of you.

 Plus ... I wanted to give an example of my sense of humor. Anyone ever
 notice that Bad Gateway page says ... contact the webmaster where
 'webmaster' is a mailto:; link that links to mailto: [name not
 provided] ... I don't know why, but I find that so funny. (And, seriously,
 just funny ... no passive/aggressive criticism intended).


 [1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=408851


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