Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Enable intelligent content assist by default

[Fred Bricon]

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Fred Bricon  wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Marcel Bruch  > wrote:
>
>> Fred,
>>
>> thanks for your response.
>>
>> So, from my experience, *if* code recommenders were to be enabled by
>> default, then it'd need to have :
>> 1 - Codetrails crowdsource extension installed by default
>>
>>
>> Glad you like it. Adding that data to recommenders would fine with me.
>>
> Is anyone using CR without it?
>
>
>>
>> 2 - subword completion disabled
>>
>> if the codetrail extensions is not installed by default but subword
completion is enabled, you won't know extensions are available  (the "not
the results I expected, discover new extensions" link won't be displayed),
at least that's my understanding of how the current version works.

>
>> The results of A  with JDT and Subwords are the same. I don’t
>> see the relation to Subwords yet.
>>
>> You're right, my apologies. Subjectivity's a bitch. To my defense it was
> only 13h in the morning when I tested it :-)
>
>
>> 3 - [1] fixed before the Mars release
>>
>>
>> The problem has been discussed in bug 435660
>> . JDT requests a
>> patch which probably would not make it into Mars. But we can implement a
>> workaround for Mars.
>>
>> Whatever works :-)
>
>
>>
>> Marcel
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Enable intelligent content assist by default

[Fred Bricon]

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Marcel Bruch 
wrote:

> Fred,
>
> thanks for your response.
>
> So, from my experience, *if* code recommenders were to be enabled by
> default, then it'd need to have :
> 1 - Codetrails crowdsource extension installed by default
>
>
> Glad you like it. Adding that data to recommenders would fine with me.
>
Is anyone using CR without it?


>
> 2 - subword completion disabled
>
>
> The results of A  with JDT and Subwords are the same. I don’t
> see the relation to Subwords yet.
>
> You're right, my apologies. Subjectivity's a bitch. To my defense it was
only 13h in the morning when I tested it :-)


> 3 - [1] fixed before the Mars release
>
>
> The problem has been discussed in bug 435660
> . JDT requests a
> patch which probably would not make it into Mars. But we can implement a
> workaround for Mars.
>
> Whatever works :-)


>
> Marcel
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Enable intelligent content assist by default

[Marcel Bruch]

Fred,

thanks for your response.

> So, from my experience, *if* code recommenders were to be enabled by default, 
> then it'd need to have :
> 1 - Codetrails crowdsource extension installed by default

Glad you like it. Adding that data to recommenders would fine with me.

> 2 - subword completion disabled

The results of A  with JDT and Subwords are the same. I don’t see 
the relation to Subwords yet.

> 3 - [1] fixed before the Mars release

The problem has been discussed in bug 435660 
. JDT requests a patch 
which probably would not make it into Mars. But we can implement a workaround 
for Mars.


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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Enable intelligent content assist by default

[Fred Bricon]

I gave it a new try this morning (on JavaEE M6, Java M6, Luna SR2). Here's
my experience :

(java.util.)List foo = new  => Anonymous List. I expected
ArrayList to be available among all List subtypes. I reckon that's a JDT
issue, but I was expecting/hoping code recommenders would "fix" it OOTB.

(java.util.)List foo = new A => Now code recommenders adds 2
links during autocompletion :
- enable subword completions
- not the results I expected, discover new extensions (something like that)

so I enabled subword completion. new A then gave me a huge list
of useless choices. ArrayList showed up after typing ArrayL.
Not really a time saver.

So I wanted to go back to displaying the "not the results I expected,
discover new plugins " link. I disabled subword completion in the prefs,
but couldn't have that link to be displayed again. Eventually I figured out
I had to go to Code Recommenders preferences and click the link to discover
new extensions.

After guessing the Codetrails crowdsource extension would be a good fit for
me, I installed it, restarted eclipse and tried again.

(java.util.)List foo = new A => ArrayList first. Yeah! So I
select that and ... doesn't use the diamond operator [1]. That one really
bothers me.

So, from my experience, *if* code recommenders were to be enabled by
default, then it'd need to have :
1 - Codetrails crowdsource extension installed by default
2 - subword completion disabled
3 - [1] fixed before the Mars release

Once all these criteria are met, then that'll make a really awesome
feature.

Just my 2 cents.

Fred

[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=435597


On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Wayne Beaton  wrote:

> Greetings folks.
>
> We include code recommenders in a bunch of packages. By default it is
> turned off. I'm of the opinion that--if it is included in the package--it
> should be turned on by default.
>
> Frankly, I see Code Recommenders as a significant competitive advantage
> that we need to leverage. I see no disadvantage to having it turned on.
>
> Am I missing something important?
>
> I prefer that you leave your comments on the bug, but here is okay too.
>
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=445213
>
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[cross-project-issues-dev] Enable intelligent content assist by default

[Wayne Beaton]

Greetings folks.

We include code recommenders in a bunch of packages. By default it is 
turned off. I'm of the opinion that--if it is included in the 
package--it should be turned on by default.


Frankly, I see Code Recommenders as a significant competitive advantage 
that we need to leverage. I see no disadvantage to having it turned on.


Am I missing something important?

I prefer that you leave your comments on the bug, but here is okay too.

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=445213

Wayne
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