Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this weekend to Git

2012-08-07 Thread David M Williams
> In the past those were picked up automatically. I may have missed it, 
but is that no longer true?

Correct. No longer true. There were some concerns by some that we'd 
"accidentally" include projects that were no longer participating. (And, 
there were a few cases, where we were doing that for 5 or 6 milestones). 
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=365738

Since we can't automate the whole thing now (the Portal flag, and the 
build enablement) the compromise was to disable everyone to start with. 
Your Juno data is still be there in your file though, so for most 
projects, its just a matter of someone from the project removing the 
enabled="false"
attribute.  We'll take that as as your affirmation.  Anyone in Juno, but 
not in Kepler M1 will be assumed to not be participating in Kepler or 
having some troubles.

Thanks, 






From:   Doug Schaefer 
To: Cross project issues , 
Date:   08/07/2012 03:58 PM
Subject:    Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this 
weekend to Git
Sent by:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org



Kepler should work with our Juno bits. In the past those were picked up 
automatically. I may have missed it, but is that no longer true?

From: Greg Watson 
Reply-To: Cross project issues 
Date: Tuesday, 7 August, 2012 2:12 PM
To: Cross project issues 
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this 
weekend to Git

David, 

We're dependent on CDT, so if I re-enable PTP it will generate a 
validation error. Do you want me to go ahead and enable it anyway, or wait 
until CDT enables theirs?

Greg

On Aug 7, 2012, at 10:23 AM, David M Williams wrote:

The re-enable part is in the b3aggrcon file. There is now an 
enabled="fasle" attribute for your contribution (in master branch) that 
you have to remove, commit, and push. 

Not sue what the status of the "kepler flag" is for simultaneous release 
in the Portal. AFAIK, the EMO is planning to roll-out their new Portal 
soon and I am assume that will all be handled then. 

The "re-enable" contribution is independent of that. (They could be made 
related ... but ... not sure anyone is thinking that far ahead). 

Thanks! 

  



From:Ed Merks 
To:David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, 
Cc:dennis.hueb...@itemis.de
Date:    08/07/2012 03:30 AM
Subject:        Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this 
weekend to Git



David,

I'm not sure what I need to do to reenable EMF and XSD from the referenced 
bugzilla.  I went to the portal to manage modeling.emf.emf, but I don't 
see Kepler in the choices:
 

Regards,
Ed

On 07/08/2012 1:56 AM, David M Williams wrote: 
Ok, all done 

The main changes were in 
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Simrel/Contributing_to_Simrel_Aggregation_Build

Which itself was renamed from previous "Juno specific" version (Seems 
things are constant and steady enough to justify one document for both 
Juno and Kepler). 

If I've missed anything (or, anything unclear) let me me know. 

Most important, in the master branch (for Kepler), I have disabled every 
contribution and will require projects to re-enable themselves as a sign 
they are intending to participate in Kepler (See bug 365738). 

The bad news is there is a large "order effect" here. For example, EMF and 
GEF must re-enable themselves before WTP (or nearly anyone else) could 
correctly aggregate.

The good news is that I put an early "warm-up I build" in for Eclipse and 
Equinox (and, yes, enabled them) and from some quick checks, it appears 
everyone still builds with the Platform's Kepler M1 (at least, as of right 
now, with warm-up) so ... the point is ... many low level projects such as 
EMF or GEF could likely re-enable themselves quickly before any new 
contributions were made/ready, thereby enabling your consuming projects to 
re-enable themselves too. Put another way, there is no reason to wait 
until your designated +n day to re-enable yourself, and if you do, it'd 
likely complicate getting M1 done. 

This complete the 5 steps outlined in my original note. Transition 
complete  now on to business. 

Both Kepler M1 and Juno RC1 complete the same week (final contributions 
from 8/20 to 8/22). That will be a busy week, so anything that can be done 
early, even if done as "warmup" willl likely help that week complete on 
time. 

Thanks, 







From:    David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
To:    Cross project issues , 
Date:08/06/2012 12:52 AM
Subject:Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this 
weekendtoGit
Sent by:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org



Just to keep all informed. I have migrated sim rel file to Git
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=359240

And have the builds working at 
https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/view/Repos

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this weekend to Git

2012-08-07 Thread Doug Schaefer
Kepler should work with our Juno bits. In the past those were picked up 
automatically. I may have missed it, but is that no longer true?

From: Greg Watson mailto:g.wat...@computer.org>>
Reply-To: Cross project issues 
mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>>
Date: Tuesday, 7 August, 2012 2:12 PM
To: Cross project issues 
mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>>
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this weekend to 
Git

David,

We're dependent on CDT, so if I re-enable PTP it will generate a validation 
error. Do you want me to go ahead and enable it anyway, or wait until CDT 
enables theirs?

Greg

On Aug 7, 2012, at 10:23 AM, David M Williams wrote:

The re-enable part is in the b3aggrcon file. There is now an enabled="fasle" 
attribute for your contribution (in master branch) that you have to remove, 
commit, and push.

Not sue what the status of the "kepler flag" is for simultaneous release in the 
Portal. AFAIK, the EMO is planning to roll-out their new Portal soon and I am 
assume that will all be handled then.

The "re-enable" contribution is independent of that. (They could be made 
related ... but ... not sure anyone is thinking that far ahead).

Thanks!





From:Ed Merks mailto:ed.me...@gmail.com>>
To:David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS,
Cc:dennis.hueb...@itemis.de<mailto:dennis.hueb...@itemis.de>
Date:    08/07/2012 03:30 AM
Subject:    Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this 
weekend to Git




David,

I'm not sure what I need to do to reenable EMF and XSD from the referenced 
bugzilla.  I went to the portal to manage modeling.emf.emf, but I don't see 
Kepler in the choices:


Regards,
Ed

On 07/08/2012 1:56 AM, David M Williams wrote:
Ok, all done

The main changes were in
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Simrel/Contributing_to_Simrel_Aggregation_Build

Which itself was renamed from previous "Juno specific" version (Seems things 
are constant and steady enough to justify one document for both Juno and 
Kepler).

If I've missed anything (or, anything unclear) let me me know.

Most important, in the master branch (for Kepler), I have disabled every 
contribution and will require projects to re-enable themselves as a sign they 
are intending to participate in Kepler (See bug 365738).

The bad news is there is a large "order effect" here. For example, EMF and GEF 
must re-enable themselves before WTP (or nearly anyone else) could correctly 
aggregate.

The good news is that I put an early "warm-up I build" in for Eclipse and 
Equinox (and, yes, enabled them) and from some quick checks, it appears 
everyone still builds with the Platform's Kepler M1 (at least, as of right now, 
with warm-up) so ... the point is ... many low level projects such as EMF or 
GEF could likely re-enable themselves quickly before any new contributions were 
made/ready, thereby enabling your consuming projects to re-enable themselves 
too. Put another way, there is no reason to wait until your designated +n day 
to re-enable yourself, and if you do, it'd likely complicate getting M1 done.

This complete the 5 steps outlined in my original note. Transition complete 
 now on to business.

Both Kepler M1 and Juno RC1 complete the same week (final contributions from 
8/20 to 8/22). That will be a busy week, so anything that can be done early, 
even if done as "warmup" willl likely help that week complete on time.

Thanks,







From:David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
To:    Cross project issues 
<mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>,
Date:08/06/2012 12:52 AM
Subject:Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this 
weekendtoGit
Sent by:
cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org<mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org>




Just to keep all informed. I have migrated sim rel file to Git
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=359240

And have the builds working at
https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/view/Repository%20Aggregation/

But have not yet update any related documentation or "how to" information, 
which I will be working on this week and post again when "all done".
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=386655
So, no need to worry about much till then, but ... reserve some time later in 
the week for worrying :)

In the mean time, if you can't resist poking around :) remember that master of 
org.eclipse.simrel.build will be for Kepler and the Juno_maintenance branch 
will be for Juno SR1.
As before, the resulting p2 repositories for Kepler staging will be
http://download.eclipse.org/releases/staging
while Juno SR1 p2 staging will be at
http://download.eclipse.org/releases/maintenance

Whew,





From:    Dav

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this weekend to Git

2012-08-07 Thread Greg Watson
Ok, it's enabled now.

Thanks,
Greg

On Aug 7, 2012, at 2:50 PM, David M Williams wrote:

> I'm fine either way ... since I want it to be as most convenient for 
> everyone. So what ever works for you.   
> 
> It does slightly increase the odds I might want to disable someone just to 
> get a green build, in which case, you'd have to re-enable later, once prereqs 
> were in. But all that won't be a factor until next week.   
> 
> But, let's follow this convention: 
> 
> Currently the contribution element itself has the enabled="false" flag. 
> 
> If you remove that, and I later need to disable something to get a temporary 
> build, I will disable the repository element, not the whole contribution 
> itself. I think that will effectively have same result (not include your 
> stuff, so not be broken by missing prereqs) but will be clear that you did/do 
> contribute to Kepler, and are in a just a temporarily disabled state. 
> 
> Guess I should have been explicit, if anyone _knows_ they will not be in 
> Kepler, then feel free to say so explicitly, here to this list, to help 
> communication. But ... I have a feeling CDT will be :) [At least ... I hope!] 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From:    Greg Watson  
> To:    Cross project issues , 
> Date:        08/07/2012 02:16 PM 
> Subject:Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this 
> weekendto Git 
> Sent by:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org 
> 
> 
> 
> David, 
> 
> We're dependent on CDT, so if I re-enable PTP it will generate a validation 
> error. Do you want me to go ahead and enable it anyway, or wait until CDT 
> enables theirs? 
> 
> Greg 
> 
> On Aug 7, 2012, at 10:23 AM, David M Williams wrote: 
> 
> The re-enable part is in the b3aggrcon file. There is now an enabled="fasle" 
> attribute for your contribution (in master branch) that you have to remove, 
> commit, and push. 
> 
> Not sue what the status of the "kepler flag" is for simultaneous release in 
> the Portal. AFAIK, the EMO is planning to roll-out their new Portal soon and 
> I am assume that will all be handled then. 
> 
> The "re-enable" contribution is independent of that. (They could be made 
> related ... but ... not sure anyone is thinking that far ahead). 
> 
> Thanks! 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> From:Ed Merks  
> To:David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, 
> Cc:dennis.hueb...@itemis.de 
> Date:08/07/2012 03:30 AM 
> Subject:Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this 
> weekend to Git 
> 
> 
> 
> David,
> 
> I'm not sure what I need to do to reenable EMF and XSD from the referenced 
> bugzilla.  I went to the portal to manage modeling.emf.emf, but I don't see 
> Kepler in the choices: 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> Ed
> 
> On 07/08/2012 1:56 AM, David M Williams wrote: 
> Ok, all done 
> 
> The main changes were in 
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Simrel/Contributing_to_Simrel_Aggregation_Build 
> 
> Which itself was renamed from previous "Juno specific" version (Seems things 
> are constant and steady enough to justify one document for both Juno and 
> Kepler). 
> 
> If I've missed anything (or, anything unclear) let me me know. 
> 
> Most important, in the master branch (for Kepler), I have disabled every 
> contribution and will require projects to re-enable themselves as a sign they 
> are intending to participate in Kepler (See bug 365738). 
> 
> The bad news is there is a large "order effect" here. For example, EMF and 
> GEF must re-enable themselves before WTP (or nearly anyone else) could 
> correctly aggregate. 
> 
> The good news is that I put an early "warm-up I build" in for Eclipse and 
> Equinox (and, yes, enabled them) and from some quick checks, it appears 
> everyone still builds with the Platform's Kepler M1 (at least, as of right 
> now, with warm-up) so ... the point is ... many low level projects such as 
> EMF or GEF could likely re-enable themselves quickly before any new 
> contributions were made/ready, thereby enabling your consuming projects to 
> re-enable themselves too. Put another way, there is no reason to wait until 
> your designated +n day to re-enable yourself, and if you do, it'd likely 
> complicate getting M1 done. 
> 
> This complete the 5 steps outlined in my original note. Transition complete 
> .... now on to business. 
> 
> Both Kepler M1 and Juno RC1 complete the same week (final contributions from 
> 8/20 to 8/22). That will be a busy week, so anything that can be done early, 
>

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this weekend to Git

2012-08-07 Thread David M Williams
I'm fine either way ... since I want it to be as most convenient for 
everyone. So what ever works for you. 

It does slightly increase the odds I might want to disable someone just to 
get a green build, in which case, you'd have to re-enable later, once 
prereqs were in. But all that won't be a factor until next week. 

But, let's follow this convention: 

Currently the contribution element itself has the enabled="false" flag. 

If you remove that, and I later need to disable something to get a 
temporary build, I will disable the repository element, not the whole 
contribution itself. I think that will effectively have same result (not 
include your stuff, so not be broken by missing prereqs) but will be clear 
that you did/do contribute to Kepler, and are in a just a temporarily 
disabled state. 

Guess I should have been explicit, if anyone _knows_ they will not be in 
Kepler, then feel free to say so explicitly, here to this list, to help 
communication. But ... I have a feeling CDT will be :) [At least ... I 
hope!] 

Thanks, 





From:   Greg Watson 
To: Cross project issues , 
Date:   08/07/2012 02:16 PM
Subject:        Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this 
weekend to Git
Sent by:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org



David,

We're dependent on CDT, so if I re-enable PTP it will generate a 
validation error. Do you want me to go ahead and enable it anyway, or wait 
until CDT enables theirs?

Greg

On Aug 7, 2012, at 10:23 AM, David M Williams wrote:

The re-enable part is in the b3aggrcon file. There is now an 
enabled="fasle" attribute for your contribution (in master branch) that 
you have to remove, commit, and push. 

Not sue what the status of the "kepler flag" is for simultaneous release 
in the Portal. AFAIK, the EMO is planning to roll-out their new Portal 
soon and I am assume that will all be handled then. 

The "re-enable" contribution is independent of that. (They could be made 
related ... but ... not sure anyone is thinking that far ahead). 

Thanks! 

  



From:Ed Merks  
To:David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, 
Cc:dennis.hueb...@itemis.de 
Date:    08/07/2012 03:30 AM 
Subject:    Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this 
weekend to Git 



David,

I'm not sure what I need to do to reenable EMF and XSD from the referenced 
bugzilla.  I went to the portal to manage modeling.emf.emf, but I don't 
see Kepler in the choices: 
 

Regards,
Ed

On 07/08/2012 1:56 AM, David M Williams wrote: 
Ok, all done 

The main changes were in 
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Simrel/Contributing_to_Simrel_Aggregation_Build 

Which itself was renamed from previous "Juno specific" version (Seems 
things are constant and steady enough to justify one document for both 
Juno and Kepler). 

If I've missed anything (or, anything unclear) let me me know. 

Most important, in the master branch (for Kepler), I have disabled every 
contribution and will require projects to re-enable themselves as a sign 
they are intending to participate in Kepler (See bug 365738). 

The bad news is there is a large "order effect" here. For example, EMF and 
GEF must re-enable themselves before WTP (or nearly anyone else) could 
correctly aggregate. 

The good news is that I put an early "warm-up I build" in for Eclipse and 
Equinox (and, yes, enabled them) and from some quick checks, it appears 
everyone still builds with the Platform's Kepler M1 (at least, as of right 
now, with warm-up) so ... the point is ... many low level projects such as 
EMF or GEF could likely re-enable themselves quickly before any new 
contributions were made/ready, thereby enabling your consuming projects to 
re-enable themselves too. Put another way, there is no reason to wait 
until your designated +n day to re-enable yourself, and if you do, it'd 
likely complicate getting M1 done. 

This complete the 5 steps outlined in my original note. Transition 
complete  now on to business. 

Both Kepler M1 and Juno RC1 complete the same week (final contributions 
from 8/20 to 8/22). That will be a busy week, so anything that can be done 
early, even if done as "warmup" willl likely help that week complete on 
time. 

Thanks, 







From:David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS 
To:    Cross project issues , 
Date:    08/06/2012 12:52 AM 
Subject:Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this 
weekendtoGit 
Sent by:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org 



Just to keep all informed. I have migrated sim rel file to Git 
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=359240 

And have the builds working at 
https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/view/Repository%20Aggregation/ 

But have not yet update any related documentation or "how to" information, 
which I will be working o

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this weekend to Git

2012-08-07 Thread Greg Watson
David,

We're dependent on CDT, so if I re-enable PTP it will generate a validation 
error. Do you want me to go ahead and enable it anyway, or wait until CDT 
enables theirs?

Greg

On Aug 7, 2012, at 10:23 AM, David M Williams wrote:

> The re-enable part is in the b3aggrcon file. There is now an enabled="fasle" 
> attribute for your contribution (in master branch) that you have to remove, 
> commit, and push. 
> 
> Not sue what the status of the "kepler flag" is for simultaneous release in 
> the Portal. AFAIK, the EMO is planning to roll-out their new Portal soon and 
> I am assume that will all be handled then. 
> 
> The "re-enable" contribution is independent of that. (They could be made 
> related ... but ... not sure anyone is thinking that far ahead). 
> 
> Thanks! 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> From:Ed Merks  
> To:David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, 
> Cc:    dennis.hueb...@itemis.de 
> Date:    08/07/2012 03:30 AM 
> Subject:Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this 
> weekend to Git 
> 
> 
> 
> David,
> 
> I'm not sure what I need to do to reenable EMF and XSD from the referenced 
> bugzilla.  I went to the portal to manage modeling.emf.emf, but I don't see 
> Kepler in the choices: 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> Ed
> 
> On 07/08/2012 1:56 AM, David M Williams wrote: 
> Ok, all done 
> 
> The main changes were in 
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Simrel/Contributing_to_Simrel_Aggregation_Build 
> 
> Which itself was renamed from previous "Juno specific" version (Seems things 
> are constant and steady enough to justify one document for both Juno and 
> Kepler). 
> 
> If I've missed anything (or, anything unclear) let me me know. 
> 
> Most important, in the master branch (for Kepler), I have disabled every 
> contribution and will require projects to re-enable themselves as a sign they 
> are intending to participate in Kepler (See bug 365738). 
> 
> The bad news is there is a large "order effect" here. For example, EMF and 
> GEF must re-enable themselves before WTP (or nearly anyone else) could 
> correctly aggregate. 
> 
> The good news is that I put an early "warm-up I build" in for Eclipse and 
> Equinox (and, yes, enabled them) and from some quick checks, it appears 
> everyone still builds with the Platform's Kepler M1 (at least, as of right 
> now, with warm-up) so ... the point is ... many low level projects such as 
> EMF or GEF could likely re-enable themselves quickly before any new 
> contributions were made/ready, thereby enabling your consuming projects to 
> re-enable themselves too. Put another way, there is no reason to wait until 
> your designated +n day to re-enable yourself, and if you do, it'd likely 
> complicate getting M1 done. 
> 
> This complete the 5 steps outlined in my original note. Transition complete 
>  now on to business. 
> 
> Both Kepler M1 and Juno RC1 complete the same week (final contributions from 
> 8/20 to 8/22). That will be a busy week, so anything that can be done early, 
> even if done as "warmup" willl likely help that week complete on time. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From:David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS 
> To:Cross project issues , 
> Date:08/06/2012 12:52 AM 
> Subject:Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this 
> weekendtoGit 
> Sent by:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org 
> 
> 
> 
> Just to keep all informed. I have migrated sim rel file to Git 
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=359240 
> 
> And have the builds working at 
> https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/view/Repository%20Aggregation/ 
> 
> But have not yet update any related documentation or "how to" information, 
> which I will be working on this week and post again when "all done". 
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=386655 
> So, no need to worry about much till then, but ... reserve some time later in 
> the week for worrying :) 
> 
> In the mean time, if you can't resist poking around :) remember that master 
> of org.eclipse.simrel.build will be for Kepler and the Juno_maintenance 
> branch will be for Juno SR1. 
> As before, the resulting p2 repositories for Kepler staging will be 
> http://download.eclipse.org/releases/staging 
> while Juno SR1 p2 staging will be at 
> http://download.eclipse.org/releases/maintenance 
> 
> Whew, 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From:David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS 
> To:Cross project issues , 
> Date:08/03/2012 01:

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this weekend to Git

2012-08-07 Thread David M Williams
The re-enable part is in the b3aggrcon file. There is now an 
enabled="fasle" attribute for your contribution (in master branch) that 
you have to remove, commit, and push. 

Not sue what the status of the "kepler flag" is for simultaneous release 
in the Portal. AFAIK, the EMO is planning to roll-out their new Portal 
soon and I am assume that will all be handled then. 

The "re-enable" contribution is independent of that. (They could be made 
related ... but ... not sure anyone is thinking that far ahead). 

Thanks! 

 



From:   Ed Merks 
To: David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, 
Cc: dennis.hueb...@itemis.de
Date:   08/07/2012 03:30 AM
Subject:        Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this 
weekend to Git



David,

I'm not sure what I need to do to reenable EMF and XSD from the referenced 
bugzilla.  I went to the portal to manage modeling.emf.emf, but I don't 
see Kepler in the choices:


Regards,
Ed

On 07/08/2012 1:56 AM, David M Williams wrote:
Ok, all done 

The main changes were in 
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Simrel/Contributing_to_Simrel_Aggregation_Build 

Which itself was renamed from previous "Juno specific" version (Seems 
things are constant and steady enough to justify one document for both 
Juno and Kepler). 

If I've missed anything (or, anything unclear) let me me know. 

Most important, in the master branch (for Kepler), I have disabled every 
contribution and will require projects to re-enable themselves as a sign 
they are intending to participate in Kepler (See bug 365738). 

The bad news is there is a large "order effect" here. For example, EMF and 
GEF must re-enable themselves before WTP (or nearly anyone else) could 
correctly aggregate. 

The good news is that I put an early "warm-up I build" in for Eclipse and 
Equinox (and, yes, enabled them) and from some quick checks, it appears 
everyone still builds with the Platform's Kepler M1 (at least, as of right 
now, with warm-up) so ... the point is ... many low level projects such as 
EMF or GEF could likely re-enable themselves quickly before any new 
contributions were made/ready, thereby enabling your consuming projects to 
re-enable themselves too. Put another way, there is no reason to wait 
until your designated +n day to re-enable yourself, and if you do, it'd 
likely complicate getting M1 done. 

This complete the 5 steps outlined in my original note. Transition 
complete  now on to business. 

Both Kepler M1 and Juno RC1 complete the same week (final contributions 
from 8/20 to 8/22). That will be a busy week, so anything that can be done 
early, even if done as "warmup" willl likely help that week complete on 
time. 

Thanks, 







From:David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS 
To:    Cross project issues , 
Date:    08/06/2012 12:52 AM 
Subject:    Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this 
weekendtoGit 
Sent by:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org 



Just to keep all informed. I have migrated sim rel file to Git 
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=359240 

And have the builds working at 
https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/view/Repository%20Aggregation/ 

But have not yet update any related documentation or "how to" information, 
which I will be working on this week and post again when "all done". 
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=386655 
So, no need to worry about much till then, but ... reserve some time later 
in the week for worrying :) 

In the mean time, if you can't resist poking around :) remember that 
master of org.eclipse.simrel.build will be for Kepler and the 
Juno_maintenance branch will be for Juno SR1. 
As before, the resulting p2 repositories for Kepler staging will be 
http://download.eclipse.org/releases/staging 
while Juno SR1 p2 staging will be at 
http://download.eclipse.org/releases/maintenance 

Whew, 





From:David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS 
To:    Cross project issues , 
Date:    08/03/2012 01:56 PM 
Subject:[cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this 
weekend toGit 
Sent by:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org 



Just an FYI that I will be moving the Sim Rel files over to Git this 
weekend. It would not really hurt much if you continued to make changes 
today or tomorrow ... but, you might have to do them again depending on 
exact timing. 

The build did get back to runnable state with just one feature disabled 
and in communication with the team (SOA BPEL) the person to "really fix" 
the issue is still out on holiday. 

So, we will be close to Juno SR0, but probably not exact. 

The hardest part for me this weekend will be updating all the "how to" 
wiki pages, etc., so (after Monday) if people see areas I've missed, let 
me know. 

I'll try to remember to turn 

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this weekend to Git

2012-08-06 Thread David M Williams
Ok, all done 

The main changes were in 
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Simrel/Contributing_to_Simrel_Aggregation_Build

Which itself was renamed from previous "Juno specific" version (Seems 
things are constant and steady enough to justify one document for both 
Juno and Kepler). 

If I've missed anything (or, anything unclear) let me me know. 

Most important, in the master branch (for Kepler), I have disabled every 
contribution and will require projects to re-enable themselves as a sign 
they are intending to participate in Kepler (See bug 365738). 

The bad news is there is a large "order effect" here. For example, EMF and 
GEF must re-enable themselves before WTP (or nearly anyone else) could 
correctly aggregate.

The good news is that I put an early "warm-up I build" in for Eclipse and 
Equinox (and, yes, enabled them) and from some quick checks, it appears 
everyone still builds with the Platform's Kepler M1 (at least, as of right 
now, with warm-up) so ... the point is ... many low level projects such as 
EMF or GEF could likely re-enable themselves quickly before any new 
contributions were made/ready, thereby enabling your consuming projects to 
re-enable themselves too. Put another way, there is no reason to wait 
until your designated +n day to re-enable yourself, and if you do, it'd 
likely complicate getting M1 done. 

This complete the 5 steps outlined in my original note. Transition 
complete  now on to business. 

Both Kepler M1 and Juno RC1 complete the same week (final contributions 
from 8/20 to 8/22). That will be a busy week, so anything that can be done 
early, even if done as "warmup" willl likely help that week complete on 
time. 

Thanks, 







From:   David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
To: Cross project issues , 
Date:   08/06/2012 12:52 AM
Subject:    Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this 
weekend to  Git
Sent by:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org



Just to keep all informed. I have migrated sim rel file to Git 
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=359240 

And have the builds working at 
https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/view/Repository%20Aggregation/ 

But have not yet update any related documentation or "how to" information, 
which I will be working on this week and post again when "all done". 
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=386655 
So, no need to worry about much till then, but ... reserve some time later 
in the week for worrying :) 

In the mean time, if you can't resist poking around :) remember that 
master of org.eclipse.simrel.build will be for Kepler and the 
Juno_maintenance branch will be for Juno SR1. 
As before, the resulting p2 repositories for Kepler staging will be 
http://download.eclipse.org/releases/staging 
while Juno SR1 p2 staging will be at 
http://download.eclipse.org/releases/maintenance 

Whew, 





From:David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS 
To:    Cross project issues , 
Date:    08/03/2012 01:56 PM 
Subject:        [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this 
weekend toGit 
Sent by:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org 



Just an FYI that I will be moving the Sim Rel files over to Git this 
weekend. It would not really hurt much if you continued to make changes 
today or tomorrow ... but, you might have to do them again depending on 
exact timing. 

The build did get back to runnable state with just one feature disabled 
and in communication with the team (SOA BPEL) the person to "really fix" 
the issue is still out on holiday. 

So, we will be close to Juno SR0, but probably not exact. 

The hardest part for me this weekend will be updating all the "how to" 
wiki pages, etc., so (after Monday) if people see areas I've missed, let 
me know. 

I'll try to remember to turn off "notifications" as I'm sure a couple of 
aggregation builds will fail as I put new system in place, but if you see 
any such messages this weekend, you can safely ignore them. 

And, thanks Henrik for the reminder to tag the initial version in Git with 
JunoSR0 ... I would have forgotten. The final one in CVS was tagged with 
JunoRC4b. 

I'll be off line this afternoon but will check mail and this list before 
actually starting the work this evening, so if anyone has any concerns or 
questions, feel free to say. 

I'll document details in bug 359240 
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=359240 
And give notice to this list when things are ready and set to go. 

Thanks, 





From:David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS 
To:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org, 
Date:07/31/2012 08:46 PM 
Subject:[cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler initial daze 
Sent by:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org 



I have turned back on the aggregation builds. 

Not surprisingly it failed right

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this weekend to Git

2012-08-05 Thread David M Williams
Just to keep all informed. I have migrated sim rel file to Git
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=359240

And have the builds working at 
https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/view/Repository%20Aggregation/

But have not yet update any related documentation or "how to" information, 
which I will be working on this week and post again when "all done". 
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=386655
So, no need to worry about much till then, but ... reserve some time later 
in the week for worrying :) 

In the mean time, if you can't resist poking around :) remember that 
master of org.eclipse.simrel.build will be for Kepler and the 
Juno_maintenance branch will be for Juno SR1. 
As before, the resulting p2 repositories for Kepler staging will be 
http://download.eclipse.org/releases/staging
while Juno SR1 p2 staging will be at 
http://download.eclipse.org/releases/maintenance

Whew, 





From:   David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
To: Cross project issues , 
Date:   08/03/2012 01:56 PM
Subject:    [cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this 
weekend to  Git
Sent by:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org



Just an FYI that I will be moving the Sim Rel files over to Git this 
weekend. It would not really hurt much if you continued to make changes 
today or tomorrow ... but, you might have to do them again depending on 
exact timing. 

The build did get back to runnable state with just one feature disabled 
and in communication with the team (SOA BPEL) the person to "really fix" 
the issue is still out on holiday. 

So, we will be close to Juno SR0, but probably not exact. 

The hardest part for me this weekend will be updating all the "how to" 
wiki pages, etc., so (after Monday) if people see areas I've missed, let 
me know. 

I'll try to remember to turn off "notifications" as I'm sure a couple of 
aggregation builds will fail as I put new system in place, but if you see 
any such messages this weekend, you can safely ignore them. 

And, thanks Henrik for the reminder to tag the initial version in Git with 
JunoSR0 ... I would have forgotten. The final one in CVS was tagged with 
JunoRC4b. 

I'll be off line this afternoon but will check mail and this list before 
actually starting the work this evening, so if anyone has any concerns or 
questions, feel free to say. 

I'll document details in bug 359240 
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=359240 
And give notice to this list when things are ready and set to go. 

Thanks, 





From:David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS 
To:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org, 
Date:07/31/2012 08:46 PM 
Subject:[cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler initial daze 
Sent by:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org 



I have turned back on the aggregation builds. 

Not surprisingly it failed right away, since, I suspect, many projects 
still need to update their URLs to their final Juno release repository. 

There are a couple of activities going on over the next week to 10 days, 
such that it would be to your advantage to get those up to date in the 
next few days. That is, updating so the "Juno Release" builds again. 

Here's an outline of what is quickly coming up (I propose). 

First, transition to Git. [1] I have been exploring and experimenting with 
moving the aggregation files and build to Git and am feeling confident 
enough to say we'll do it in about a week. So, at some point, let's say 
Friday, 8/3, will be the official "cut off" time for CVS changes. After 
that, I suspect there will be a little "down time" while I actually do the 
move, and get things working again before it'd make sense to make official 
changes to your Git files. So, anything not building by Friday will just 
be disabled.   

Second, change in aggregation build project name. [1] As we "rethink" this 
stuff, as we move to Git, and a new release, it makes sense to change the 
name of the projects to a persistent name, that won't change from release 
to release, and instead we'll just make persistent branches of those 
projects. The name currently proposed for new project will be 
"org.eclipse.simrel.builds" which will initially be a "copy" of 
"org.eclipse.juno.builds" (done after Friday 8/3). 

Third, right after we migrate to Git, and get the build running again with 
those Git repos, we will branch master of "org.eclipse.simrel.builds" to 
Juno_maintenance. From that point on, master will be for Kepler and 
Juno_maintenance for Juno SR1.  I expect this all to happen before Kepler 
M1 +0 which is 8/10 [2]  (And Juno SR1 aggregation starts shortly after 
that. [3] ) 

Fourth, we need the maintenance branch to be able to build at any time ... 
so, everyone needs to get and keep that up to date, if anything break

[cross-project-issues-dev] Migrating SimRel files this weekend to Git

2012-08-03 Thread David M Williams
Just an FYI that I will be moving the Sim Rel files over to Git this 
weekend. It would not really hurt much if you continued to make changes 
today or tomorrow ... but, you might have to do them again depending on 
exact timing. 

The build did get back to runnable state with just one feature disabled 
and in communication with the team (SOA BPEL) the person to "really fix" 
the issue is still out on holiday. 

So, we will be close to Juno SR0, but probably not exact. 

The hardest part for me this weekend will be updating all the "how to" 
wiki pages, etc., so (after Monday) if people see areas I've missed, let 
me know. 

I'll try to remember to turn off "notifications" as I'm sure a couple of 
aggregation builds will fail as I put new system in place, but if you see 
any such messages this weekend, you can safely ignore them. 

And, thanks Henrik for the reminder to tag the initial version in Git with 
JunoSR0 ... I would have forgotten. The final one in CVS was tagged with 
JunoRC4b. 

I'll be off line this afternoon but will check mail and this list before 
actually starting the work this evening, so if anyone has any concerns or 
questions, feel free to say. 

I'll document details in bug 359240
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=359240 
And give notice to this list when things are ready and set to go. 

Thanks, 





From:   David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
To: cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org, 
Date:   07/31/2012 08:46 PM
Subject:[cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler initial daze
Sent by:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org



I have turned back on the aggregation builds. 

Not surprisingly it failed right away, since, I suspect, many projects 
still need to update their URLs to their final Juno release repository. 

There are a couple of activities going on over the next week to 10 days, 
such that it would be to your advantage to get those up to date in the 
next few days. That is, updating so the "Juno Release" builds again. 

Here's an outline of what is quickly coming up (I propose). 

First, transition to Git. [1] I have been exploring and experimenting with 
moving the aggregation files and build to Git and am feeling confident 
enough to say we'll do it in about a week. So, at some point, let's say 
Friday, 8/3, will be the official "cut off" time for CVS changes. After 
that, I suspect there will be a little "down time" while I actually do the 
move, and get things working again before it'd make sense to make official 
changes to your Git files. So, anything not building by Friday will just 
be disabled.   

Second, change in aggregation build project name. [1] As we "rethink" this 
stuff, as we move to Git, and a new release, it makes sense to change the 
name of the projects to a persistent name, that won't change from release 
to release, and instead we'll just make persistent branches of those 
projects. The name currently proposed for new project will be 
"org.eclipse.simrel.builds" which will initially be a "copy" of 
"org.eclipse.juno.builds" (done after Friday 8/3). 

Third, right after we migrate to Git, and get the build running again with 
those Git repos, we will branch master of "org.eclipse.simrel.builds" to 
Juno_maintenance. From that point on, master will be for Kepler and 
Juno_maintenance for Juno SR1.  I expect this all to happen before Kepler 
M1 +0 which is 8/10 [2]  (And Juno SR1 aggregation starts shortly after 
that. [3] ) 

Fourth, we need the maintenance branch to be able to build at any time ... 
so, everyone needs to get and keep that up to date, if anything breaks 
from what ever your final release was (which, should be unlikely). But ... 


Fifth, due to some discussions in some bug somewhere [4], it was decided 
that as we start a new release, ALL projects will start off disabled in 
the aggregation build. The project team will need to re-enable when they 
are ready and committed to Kepler, which should be for M1 for those 
participating in Juno. That would be by 8/22 at the latest.  Anyone in 
Juno, but not in Kepler M1 will be assumed to not be participating in 
Kepler or having some troubles. Projects new to Kepler (still) have until 
M4 (at the latest) to join the train (but, can join earlier, if they'd 
like!). 

So, a lot is proposed to be happening over the next week. I will keep you 
informed along the way, but ... if anyone wants to update your CVS files 
one last time, now is the time to do it. 

Comments, suggestions, questions, and your cooperation :) will be most 
welcome. 

Thanks, 
  
[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=359240 
[2] http://wiki.eclipse.org/Kepler/Simultaneous_Release_Plan#Schedule 
[3] http://wiki.eclipse.org/Juno/Simultaneous_Release_Plan#SR1 
[4] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=365738 
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