Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Who decided to override my Java installation with JustJ?
@Gunnar, @Ed thanks for the hints and workarounds, I just found that this example best reproduces the original issue described here and maybe give some pointers what might be wrong (or needs adjustments)? I think whatever causing this its almost always undesirable that justj is pulled in without explicit user request. New releases always produce a lot of traffic if we higher this traffic even more by downloading unnecessary new java version this will frustrate user soon due to long download times. And even though it can Am 17.12.20 um 10:41 schrieb Ed Merks: You can point at this instead: https://download.eclipse.org/releases/2020-12/202012161000/ Or at this: http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/updates/4.18/R-4.18-202012021800 I.e., don't point at EPP if you don't EPP's IUs. If the problem is caused by fake p2 a.java.javase IUs missing package exports that are imported/used by JDT, then I don't think anyone has tried to fix those (which would be hard because it would need to be a new IU with a different version number). On 17.12.2020 10:13, Christoph Läubrich wrote: Is there any progress on this? I noticed that even when using for example [1] in a target it downloads the full java 15 jre (>100mb) what is taking ages (eclipse servers are currently serving this with 16 to 32kb/s) to resolve target definition now. Even worse, if one builds for multiple targets justj is downloaded for each target platform (e.g. linux, mac, windows) wasting a lot of bandwith, disk space and time... includeMode="planner" includeSource="true" type="InstallableUnit"> https://download.eclipse.org/releases/2020-12/"/> Am 22.10.20 um 14:44 schrieb Greg Watson: Thanks Ed, that helped. Hopefully this will be fixed soon. Regards, Greg On Oct 15, 2020, at 10:17 AM, Ed Merks wrote: Greg, I don't think anyone has figured out why a JRE is automatically installed during update: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=567504 You can undo this effect just by removing the -vm argument (to end up with the default) or by changing the -vm argument to the one you want it to use, in your eclipse.ini. It's liable to come back if there is an unexpected updated to the JRE in the future... Regards, Ed On 15.10.2020 15:11, Greg Watson wrote: My Eclipse installation recently prompted me to upgrade (something new), so I accepted the advice. Now I’ve discovered that an unknown JRE was downloaded onto my machine and is being used to run Eclipse. This is broken on so many levels, I don’t even know where to start opening bug reports. Since when does Eclipse start installing unauthorized versions of the JRE onto my machine without any notification, and that overrides my choice of the JRE (or JDK in my case) for running Eclipse? Not only is there no option to change or uninstall this, it breaks tools that rely on the JDK (e.g. Spring Boot Live hovers.) Does anybody else see the problem here? Someone needs to rethink this kind of behavior. In the mean time, does anyone know how to undo this mess, or am I forced to go back to 2020-06? Regards, Greg ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org To unsubscribe from this list, visit https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org To unsubscribe from this list, visit https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org To unsubscribe from this list, visit https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev
Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Who decided to override my Java installation with JustJ?
You can point at this instead: https://download.eclipse.org/releases/2020-12/202012161000/ Or at this: http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/updates/4.18/R-4.18-202012021800 I.e., don't point at EPP if you don't EPP's IUs. If the problem is caused by fake p2 a.java.javase IUs missing package exports that are imported/used by JDT, then I don't think anyone has tried to fix those (which would be hard because it would need to be a new IU with a different version number). On 17.12.2020 10:13, Christoph Läubrich wrote: Is there any progress on this? I noticed that even when using for example [1] in a target it downloads the full java 15 jre (>100mb) what is taking ages (eclipse servers are currently serving this with 16 to 32kb/s) to resolve target definition now. Even worse, if one builds for multiple targets justj is downloaded for each target platform (e.g. linux, mac, windows) wasting a lot of bandwith, disk space and time... includeMode="planner" includeSource="true" type="InstallableUnit"> https://download.eclipse.org/releases/2020-12/"/> Am 22.10.20 um 14:44 schrieb Greg Watson: Thanks Ed, that helped. Hopefully this will be fixed soon. Regards, Greg On Oct 15, 2020, at 10:17 AM, Ed Merks wrote: Greg, I don't think anyone has figured out why a JRE is automatically installed during update: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=567504 You can undo this effect just by removing the -vm argument (to end up with the default) or by changing the -vm argument to the one you want it to use, in your eclipse.ini. It's liable to come back if there is an unexpected updated to the JRE in the future... Regards, Ed On 15.10.2020 15:11, Greg Watson wrote: My Eclipse installation recently prompted me to upgrade (something new), so I accepted the advice. Now I’ve discovered that an unknown JRE was downloaded onto my machine and is being used to run Eclipse. This is broken on so many levels, I don’t even know where to start opening bug reports. Since when does Eclipse start installing unauthorized versions of the JRE onto my machine without any notification, and that overrides my choice of the JRE (or JDK in my case) for running Eclipse? Not only is there no option to change or uninstall this, it breaks tools that rely on the JDK (e.g. Spring Boot Live hovers.) Does anybody else see the problem here? Someone needs to rethink this kind of behavior. In the mean time, does anyone know how to undo this mess, or am I forced to go back to 2020-06? Regards, Greg ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org To unsubscribe from this list, visit https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org To unsubscribe from this list, visit https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev
Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Who decided to override my Java installation with JustJ?
Christoph, > On Dec 17, 2020, at 10:13, Christoph Läubrich wrote: > Even worse, if one builds for multiple targets justj is downloaded for each > target platform (e.g. linux, mac, windows) wasting a lot of bandwith, disk > space and time... I cannot offer a solution to this issue but a workaround. Instead of planner I use slicer and https://github.com/eclipse-cbi/targetplatform-dsl. It gives me much better control of what is in a target platform and is a better versional (and re-usable) syntax. -Gunnar -- Gunnar Wagenknecht gun...@wagenknecht.org, http://guw.io/ ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org To unsubscribe from this list, visit https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev
Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Who decided to override my Java installation with JustJ?
Is there any progress on this? I noticed that even when using for example [1] in a target it downloads the full java 15 jre (>100mb) what is taking ages (eclipse servers are currently serving this with 16 to 32kb/s) to resolve target definition now. Even worse, if one builds for multiple targets justj is downloaded for each target platform (e.g. linux, mac, windows) wasting a lot of bandwith, disk space and time... includeMode="planner" includeSource="true" type="InstallableUnit"> https://download.eclipse.org/releases/2020-12/"/> Am 22.10.20 um 14:44 schrieb Greg Watson: Thanks Ed, that helped. Hopefully this will be fixed soon. Regards, Greg On Oct 15, 2020, at 10:17 AM, Ed Merks wrote: Greg, I don't think anyone has figured out why a JRE is automatically installed during update: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=567504 You can undo this effect just by removing the -vm argument (to end up with the default) or by changing the -vm argument to the one you want it to use, in your eclipse.ini. It's liable to come back if there is an unexpected updated to the JRE in the future... Regards, Ed On 15.10.2020 15:11, Greg Watson wrote: My Eclipse installation recently prompted me to upgrade (something new), so I accepted the advice. Now I’ve discovered that an unknown JRE was downloaded onto my machine and is being used to run Eclipse. This is broken on so many levels, I don’t even know where to start opening bug reports. Since when does Eclipse start installing unauthorized versions of the JRE onto my machine without any notification, and that overrides my choice of the JRE (or JDK in my case) for running Eclipse? Not only is there no option to change or uninstall this, it breaks tools that rely on the JDK (e.g. Spring Boot Live hovers.) Does anybody else see the problem here? Someone needs to rethink this kind of behavior. In the mean time, does anyone know how to undo this mess, or am I forced to go back to 2020-06? Regards, Greg ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org To unsubscribe from this list, visit https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev
Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Who decided to override my Java installation with JustJ?
Thanks Ed, that helped. Hopefully this will be fixed soon. Regards, Greg > On Oct 15, 2020, at 10:17 AM, Ed Merks wrote: > > Greg, > > I don't think anyone has figured out why a JRE is automatically installed > during update: > > https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=567504 > > You can undo this effect just by removing the -vm argument (to end up with > the default) or by changing the -vm argument to the one you want it to use, > in your eclipse.ini. > > It's liable to come back if there is an unexpected updated to the JRE in the > future... > > Regards, > Ed > > > On 15.10.2020 15:11, Greg Watson wrote: >> My Eclipse installation recently prompted me to upgrade (something new), so >> I accepted the advice. Now I’ve discovered that an unknown JRE was >> downloaded onto my machine and is being used to run Eclipse. This is broken >> on so many levels, I don’t even know where to start opening bug reports. >> >> Since when does Eclipse start installing unauthorized versions of the JRE >> onto my machine without any notification, and that overrides my choice of >> the JRE (or JDK in my case) for running Eclipse? Not only is there no option >> to change or uninstall this, it breaks tools that rely on the JDK (e.g. >> Spring Boot Live hovers.) >> >> Does anybody else see the problem here? Someone needs to rethink this kind >> of behavior. >> >> In the mean time, does anyone know how to undo this mess, or am I forced to >> go back to 2020-06? >> >> Regards, >> Greg >> ___ >> cross-project-issues-dev mailing list >> cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, visit >> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev > ___ > cross-project-issues-dev mailing list > cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org > To unsubscribe from this list, visit > https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org To unsubscribe from this list, visit https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev
Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Who decided to override my Java installation with JustJ?
Greg, I don't think anyone has figured out why a JRE is automatically installed during update: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=567504 You can undo this effect just by removing the -vm argument (to end up with the default) or by changing the -vm argument to the one you want it to use, in your eclipse.ini. It's liable to come back if there is an unexpected updated to the JRE in the future... Regards, Ed On 15.10.2020 15:11, Greg Watson wrote: My Eclipse installation recently prompted me to upgrade (something new), so I accepted the advice. Now I’ve discovered that an unknown JRE was downloaded onto my machine and is being used to run Eclipse. This is broken on so many levels, I don’t even know where to start opening bug reports. Since when does Eclipse start installing unauthorized versions of the JRE onto my machine without any notification, and that overrides my choice of the JRE (or JDK in my case) for running Eclipse? Not only is there no option to change or uninstall this, it breaks tools that rely on the JDK (e.g. Spring Boot Live hovers.) Does anybody else see the problem here? Someone needs to rethink this kind of behavior. In the mean time, does anyone know how to undo this mess, or am I forced to go back to 2020-06? Regards, Greg ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org To unsubscribe from this list, visit https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org To unsubscribe from this list, visit https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev
Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Who decided to override my Java installation with JustJ?
See discussion on https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=567504 Kind regards, Andrey Loskutov Спасение утопающих - дело рук самих утопающих https://www.eclipse.org/user/aloskutov > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. Oktober 2020 um 15:11 Uhr > Von: "Greg Watson" > An: "Cross project issues" > Betreff: [cross-project-issues-dev] Who decided to override my Java > installation with JustJ? > > My Eclipse installation recently prompted me to upgrade (something new), so I > accepted the advice. Now I’ve discovered that an unknown JRE was downloaded > onto my machine and is being used to run Eclipse. This is broken on so many > levels, I don’t even know where to start opening bug reports. > > Since when does Eclipse start installing unauthorized versions of the JRE > onto my machine without any notification, and that overrides my choice of the > JRE (or JDK in my case) for running Eclipse? Not only is there no option to > change or uninstall this, it breaks tools that rely on the JDK (e.g. Spring > Boot Live hovers.) > > Does anybody else see the problem here? Someone needs to rethink this kind of > behavior. > > In the mean time, does anyone know how to undo this mess, or am I forced to > go back to 2020-06? > > Regards, > Greg > ___ > cross-project-issues-dev mailing list > cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org > To unsubscribe from this list, visit > https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev > ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org To unsubscribe from this list, visit https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev
[cross-project-issues-dev] Who decided to override my Java installation with JustJ?
My Eclipse installation recently prompted me to upgrade (something new), so I accepted the advice. Now I’ve discovered that an unknown JRE was downloaded onto my machine and is being used to run Eclipse. This is broken on so many levels, I don’t even know where to start opening bug reports. Since when does Eclipse start installing unauthorized versions of the JRE onto my machine without any notification, and that overrides my choice of the JRE (or JDK in my case) for running Eclipse? Not only is there no option to change or uninstall this, it breaks tools that rely on the JDK (e.g. Spring Boot Live hovers.) Does anybody else see the problem here? Someone needs to rethink this kind of behavior. In the mean time, does anyone know how to undo this mess, or am I forced to go back to 2020-06? Regards, Greg ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org To unsubscribe from this list, visit https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev
