[crossfire] Unban me
Ryo banned me and tor from #crossfire because no matter how much one contributes to CF one has to fit in with the clique, be "nice" and "sociable" and accept constant art-by-committeism + the trollage by Leaf that follows when you don't (naturally, this seems to happen often enough). __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Unban me
And that is your way of asking to be unbanned? Placing blame on someone else? How about looking at it as: Everyone has to follow certain rules be they developer or not, DM or not, irc op or not. Mitch Obrian wrote: Ryo banned me and tor from #crossfire because no matter how much one contributes to CF one has to fit in with the clique, be "nice" and "sociable" and accept constant art-by-committeism + the trollage by Leaf that follows when you don't (naturally, this seems to happen often enough). __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Unban me
Quoting Joshua Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: And that is your way of asking to be unbanned? Placing blame on someone else? How about looking at it as: Everyone has to follow certain rules be they developer or not, DM or not, irc op or not. That hasn't, and will never be the case. Rule enforcement at all levels is by whim and mood, as with most clique-managed open-source communities. It's undoubtedly a major reason that the wordlwide crossfire player count is in the hundreds (or less), rather than thousands or more. I grant that I'm a largely outside observer, but the general politics of crossfire ensured I'd never step inside. Mitch Obrian wrote: Ryo banned me and tor from #crossfire because no matter how much one contributes to CF one has to fit in with the clique, be "nice" and "sociable" and accept constant art-by-committeism + the trollage by Leaf that follows when you don't (naturally, this seems to happen often enough). __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Unban me
On 10/10/05, Vernon T Rhyne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > That hasn't, and will never be the case. Rule enforcement at all > levels is by whim and mood, as with most clique-managed open-source > communities. It's undoubtedly a major reason that the wordlwide crossfire > player count is in the hundreds (or less), rather than thousands or more. > > I grant that I'm a largely outside observer, but the general politics of > crossfire ensured I'd never step inside. ... Can you please elaborate on this, and give examples? -- Andrew Fuchs ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Unban me
On 10/10/05, Vernon T Rhyne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That hasn't, and will never be the case. Rule enforcement at all > levels is by whim and mood, as with most clique-managed open-source > communities. Try as with all stable communities anywhere in the world. The nature of rules is such that to have them enforced uniformly would be unjust. because rules only describe concepts, not individual circumstances. This is why court systems the world over allow for extenuating circumstances. (and why politicians who distrust their local judicary and try to make the response to such calls formalised in law create the loophole-filled laws that blight most nations in the world today) > It's undoubtedly a major reason that the wordlwide crossfire > player count is in the hundreds (or less), rather than thousands or more. I suspect there are five more noticable reasons for the lack of players. 1) mediocre performance on slow/laggy network connections (crossfire was designed for playing on an internal university network, and has never really been properly optimised to cope with modem connections, that up until only a couple of years ago were very common) 2) a historical lack of stability. - less of an issue in stable server releases, though the metalforge and cat2 servers sometimes find rather more bugs than might be preferred (that is, however, the nature of CVS code). 3) difficulty in setting up clients - until comparitively recently this required some interesting playing with telnet, and windows client support is a fairly new (and under exposed) thing - I've had a small go at helping in this respect myself (look at the posts about autopackage from last month) 4) High initial learning curve to play the game - partially this is an artifact of the way existing clients are created, partially this is a map/item issue (the god-given initial items are an interesting detail for a newbie who accidentally drops something). 5) lack of information about the project. - there are some steps being taken to deal with that. ( http://www.gamesites200.com/mpog/vote.php?id=2197 is one of them) > I grant that I'm a largely outside observer, but the general politics of > crossfire ensured I'd never step inside. I have not seen any noticable intrusion of politics in the project itself, arguably on the metalforge server such a thing can be observed, but metalforge != crossfire With all of the problems and issues that have arisen since I joined the project, I have never seen anything but a desire to find the best or most useful technical solution to the problem at hand, ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Unban me
May be is it time for you to consider there is probably a good reason why you get banned from everywhere. Probably you are trying to get the world record of being banned from everywhere You are already the first person to get banned from list.debian.org, the first from bugs.debian.org, and this appear on first results on google, great job. Now your mail is simply trolling and whinning again. Being a commiter does not grant you the right to insult other commiters or either players. I don't know exactly 'why' you get banned, but i think everyone here can guess you where still polluting the chan in some of your favorite way. Mitch Obrian a écrit : >Ryo banned me and tor from #crossfire because no >matter how much one contributes to CF one has to fit >in with the clique, be "nice" and "sociable" and >accept constant art-by-committeism + the trollage by >Leaf that follows when you don't (naturally, this >seems to happen often enough). > > > >__ >Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! >http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > >___ >crossfire mailing list >crossfire@metalforge.org >http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire > > > ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Unban me
I was banned from the debain lists because the debian people are pro-women's rights for the most part. The ban had no effect, I post to those lists at will (check out debian women's list for confirmation). Crossfire is a clique based project, it does not matter how much one contributes, if you don't obey the clique then it's felt that it's better that you leave. We wonder why there are few CF developers... well men usually don't take kindly to "do as I say because you have to obey!" mentality, which is the current CF mentality. Death To women's Rights. --- Tchize <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > May be is it time for you to consider there is > probably a good reason > why you get banned from everywhere. > Probably you are trying to get the world record of > being banned from > everywhere > You are already the first person to get banned from > list.debian.org, the first from bugs.debian.org, and > this appear > on first results on google, great job. Now your mail > is simply trolling > and whinning again. Being a commiter does not grant > you the > right to insult other commiters or either players. I > don't know exactly > 'why' you > get banned, but i think everyone here can guess you > where still > polluting the chan in some of your favorite way. > > > Mitch Obrian a écrit : > > >Ryo banned me and tor from #crossfire because no > >matter how much one contributes to CF one has to > fit > >in with the clique, be "nice" and "sociable" and > >accept constant art-by-committeism + the trollage > by > >Leaf that follows when you don't (naturally, this > >seems to happen often enough). > > > > > > > >__ > >Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home > page! > >http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > >___ > >crossfire mailing list > >crossfire@metalforge.org > >http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire > > > > > > > > > ___ > crossfire mailing list > crossfire@metalforge.org > http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire > __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Unban me
On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 08:00:38AM -0700, Mitch Obrian wrote: > I was banned from the debain lists because the debian [snip] > Crossfire is a clique based project, it does not > matter how much one contributes, if you don't obey the > clique then it's felt that it's better that you leave. [snip] http://www.despair.com/dysfunction.html "The only consistent feature of all your dissatisfying relationships is you". /Sebastian -- .oooO o,o Oooo. Ad: http://dum.acc.umu.se/ ( ) \_/ ( ) (o_ "Life is not fair, but root \ ( /|\ ) / (o_ //\ password helps!" -- The BOFH \_) (_/ (/)_ V_/_ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Unban me
Mitch Obrian a écrit : >I was banned from the debain lists because the debian >people are pro-women's rights for the most part. The > > You were banned because you were abusing the bugreport system, but that's not the place to discuss about it. >ban had no effect, I post to those lists at will >(check out debian women's list for confirmation). > >Crossfire is a clique based project, it does not >matter how much one contributes, if you don't obey the >clique then it's felt that it's better that you leave. > > Mmm nice, a clique? I don't know half of the commiters of this clique, damn I am not part of the clique, does that mean I will have to leave? Ho shit! >We wonder why there are few CF developers... well men >usually don't take kindly to "do as I say because you >have to obey!" mentality, which is the current CF >mentality. > > I don't think there are few CF developers. Moreover, i have always though the reason crossfire had so little success was because of lack of strict development rules, people can do what they want as long as players enjoy it. All is required is to follow some development guideline which were agreed by other developpers. >Death To women's Rights. > > > Death To Jerks >--- Tchize <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>May be is it time for you to consider there is >>probably a good reason >>why you get banned from everywhere. >>Probably you are trying to get the world record of >>being banned from >>everywhere >>You are already the first person to get banned from >>list.debian.org, the first from bugs.debian.org, and >>this appear >>on first results on google, great job. Now your mail >>is simply trolling >>and whinning again. Being a commiter does not grant >>you the >>right to insult other commiters or either players. I >>don't know exactly >>'why' you >>get banned, but i think everyone here can guess you >>where still >>polluting the chan in some of your favorite way. >> >> >>Mitch Obrian a écrit : >> >> >> >>>Ryo banned me and tor from #crossfire because no >>>matter how much one contributes to CF one has to >>> >>> >>fit >> >> >>>in with the clique, be "nice" and "sociable" and >>>accept constant art-by-committeism + the trollage >>> >>> >>by >> >> >>>Leaf that follows when you don't (naturally, this >>>seems to happen often enough). >>> >>> >>> >>>__ >>>Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home >>> >>> >>page! >> >> >>>http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs >>> >>>___ >>>crossfire mailing list >>>crossfire@metalforge.org >>> >>> >>http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>___ >>crossfire mailing list >>crossfire@metalforge.org >> >> >> >http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire > > > > > > > >__ >Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 >http://mail.yahoo.com > >___ >crossfire mailing list >crossfire@metalforge.org >http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire > > > ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Unban me
On 10/11/05, Mitch Obrian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was banned from the debain lists because the debian > people are pro-women's rights for the most part. The > ban had no effect, I post to those lists at will > (check out debian women's list for confirmation). I'm sorry, I seem to be a bit confused here, weren't you supposed to be supplying reasons why you /shouldn't/ be banned? > Crossfire is a clique based project, it does not > matter how much one contributes, if you don't obey the > clique then it's felt that it's better that you leave. I rather think that the set of people who do /not/ : 1) repeatedly and incessently, troll about women's rights and development methodology, 2) 'quit' whenever they felt they aren't getting their own way 3) immediatly rejoin after being kicked, then kickbanned, using various proxies before considering there might be a reason for being kicked in the first place. form a fairly large clique. Please consider joining this 'clique' of ours, there are another 6.4 billion (cia estimate) members waiting for you to do so. > We wonder why there are few CF developers... well men > usually don't take kindly to "do as I say because you > have to obey!" mentality, which is the current CF > mentality. If anything there is a /lack/ of this at the moment. If you think otherwise, then answer this question: What will be in the next stable release? Which features, which bug fixes, which changes will be in crossfire between now and when 1.9 is out? What has to be finished? Who is currently blocking the release of the next version and therefore needs to be 'ordered' to complete something? > Death To women's Rights. I don't think this point needs further comment. ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Unban me
:) --- Sebastian Andersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 08:00:38AM -0700, Mitch > Obrian wrote: > > I was banned from the debain lists because the > debian > [snip] > > Crossfire is a clique based project, it does not > > matter how much one contributes, if you don't obey > the > > clique then it's felt that it's better that you > leave. > [snip] > > http://www.despair.com/dysfunction.html > > "The only consistent feature of all your > dissatisfying relationships is > you". > > /Sebastian > -- > .oooO o,o Oooo. Ad: > http://dum.acc.umu.se/ > ( ) \_/ ( ) > (o_ > "Life is not fair, but root \ ( /|\ ) / (o_ > //\ > password helps!" -- The BOFH \_) (_/ (/)_ > V_/_ > > ___ > crossfire mailing list > crossfire@metalforge.org > http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire > __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Unban me
--- Tchize <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Death To women's Rights. > > > > > > > Death To Jerks > Death To women's Liberties __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Unban me
6.4 billion members? The whole world is pro-women's rights? If so then I'll welcome WW3 as I can't war against the whole world by myself (thus the whole pro-women's rights world destroying it'self is preferable). --- Brendan Lally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/11/05, Mitch Obrian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I was banned from the debain lists because the > debian > > people are pro-women's rights for the most part. > The > > ban had no effect, I post to those lists at will > > (check out debian women's list for confirmation). > > I'm sorry, I seem to be a bit confused here, weren't > you supposed to > be supplying reasons why you /shouldn't/ be banned? > > > Crossfire is a clique based project, it does not > > matter how much one contributes, if you don't obey > the > > clique then it's felt that it's better that you > leave. > > I rather think that the set of people who do /not/ : > 1) repeatedly and incessently, troll about women's > rights and > development methodology, > 2) 'quit' whenever they felt they aren't getting > their own way > 3) immediatly rejoin after being kicked, then > kickbanned, using > various proxies before considering there might be a > reason for being > kicked in the first place. > > form a fairly large clique. > > Please consider joining this 'clique' of ours, there > are another 6.4 > billion (cia estimate) members waiting for you to do > so. > > > We wonder why there are few CF developers... well > men > > usually don't take kindly to "do as I say because > you > > have to obey!" mentality, which is the current CF > > mentality. > > If anything there is a /lack/ of this at the moment. > If you think > otherwise, then answer this question: > > What will be in the next stable release? > Which features, which bug fixes, which changes will > be in crossfire > between now and when 1.9 is out? What has to be > finished? Who is > currently blocking the release of the next version > and therefore needs > to be 'ordered' to complete something? > > > Death To women's Rights. > > I don't think this point needs further comment. > > ___ > crossfire mailing list > crossfire@metalforge.org > http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire > __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Unban me
I'd rather not join the pro-women's rights clique. For some reason I don't believe that women who murder their husbands or children should get away (regardless of the reason), I think said women should be hanged without a drop, then just before they die taken down and taunted and then strung back up for the final removal of said "goddess". Women should have no rights. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/4321130.stm Woman stabs husband because he is verbally abusive, gets community service. I pray that that woman is murdered in the streets while she is doing her community service... where's the muslims when you need them (or as cave tell's me, they're pro-women's rights too (their religious texts are atleast)). Death To women's Rights, Liberties, and Freedoms. --- Mitch Obrian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 6.4 billion members? The whole world is pro-women's > rights? If so then I'll welcome WW3 as I can't war > against the whole world by myself (thus the whole > pro-women's rights world destroying it'self is > preferable). > > --- Brendan Lally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 10/11/05, Mitch Obrian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > I was banned from the debain lists because the > > debian > > > people are pro-women's rights for the most part. > > The > > > ban had no effect, I post to those lists at will > > > (check out debian women's list for > confirmation). > > > > I'm sorry, I seem to be a bit confused here, > weren't > > you supposed to > > be supplying reasons why you /shouldn't/ be > banned? > > > > > Crossfire is a clique based project, it does not > > > matter how much one contributes, if you don't > obey > > the > > > clique then it's felt that it's better that you > > leave. > > > > I rather think that the set of people who do /not/ > : > > 1) repeatedly and incessently, troll about > women's > > rights and > > development methodology, > > 2) 'quit' whenever they felt they aren't getting > > their own way > > 3) immediatly rejoin after being kicked, then > > kickbanned, using > > various proxies before considering there might be > a > > reason for being > > kicked in the first place. > > > > form a fairly large clique. > > > > Please consider joining this 'clique' of ours, > there > > are another 6.4 > > billion (cia estimate) members waiting for you to > do > > so. > > > > > We wonder why there are few CF developers... > well > > men > > > usually don't take kindly to "do as I say > because > > you > > > have to obey!" mentality, which is the current > CF > > > mentality. > > > > If anything there is a /lack/ of this at the > moment. > > If you think > > otherwise, then answer this question: > > > > What will be in the next stable release? > > Which features, which bug fixes, which changes > will > > be in crossfire > > between now and when 1.9 is out? What has to be > > finished? Who is > > currently blocking the release of the next version > > and therefore needs > > to be 'ordered' to complete something? > > > > > Death To women's Rights. > > > > I don't think this point needs further comment. > > > > ___ > > crossfire mailing list > > crossfire@metalforge.org > > > http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire > > > > > > > __ > Yahoo! Music Unlimited > Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. > http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ > > ___ > crossfire mailing list > crossfire@metalforge.org > http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire > __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Unban me
Le Mardi 11 Octobre 2005 17:00, Mitch Obrian a écrit : > I was banned from the debain lists because the debian > people are pro-women's rights for the most part. The > ban had no effect, I post to those lists at will > (check out debian women's list for confirmation). > Point is that if you follow the proper "netiquette" of good behavior, you'd never get banned from anywhere. > Crossfire is a clique based project, it does not > matter how much one contributes, if you don't obey the > clique then it's felt that it's better that you leave. > Keeping anarchy from crippling a project that exists for so many years, involving people with so many different habits is a difficult task. That's why there are some basical rules to follow - and it is already hard enough sometimes to coordinate everything. Being part of a community and participating to a project starts by accepting its rules. If you don't want to comply, provide good reasons to show in which way those rules are harmful for your work and should be changed. Apart from that, I agree with the "clique": if you don't obey the rules, it is indeed better to leave. > We wonder why there are few CF developers... > There are more than enough developers for a project of that scale. > well men > usually don't take kindly to "do as I say because you > have to obey!" mentality, which is the current CF > mentality. > Again, if you have good reasons not to comply to rules that were edicted for the goodness of everybody contributing, then expose them. Else, either comply or leave. Simple as that. > Death To women's Rights. > Keep your political rants outside of this list, which is devoted to Crossfire, not to your personal opinion about topics that aren't related to it. That's *also* part of common courtesy. Have a nice day. -- Yann Chachkoff --- Garden Dwarf's Best Friend --- GPG Key: http://keyserver.veridis.com:11371/export?id=9080288987474372064 Fingerprint: 6616 2E02 BAD2 4AEF C90A F1EB 7E03 AAB9 844D 25E0 pgpxXWp22Yx9o.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Unban me
On Tuesday 11 October 2005 01:28 pm Andrew Fuchs wrote: [...] > I also think that it may be a good idea to keep more information about > bans from now on. Possibly including the text of the conversation > leading up to the banning. This information *is* kept but not in a public place. The IRC Ops from #crossfire have access to history of most (if not all) bans. The history includes the relevant "conversation". Gene Alexander -- Linux era4.eracc.UUCP 2.6.8.1-12mdk i686 14:00:24 up 146 days, 14:41, 9 users, load average: 1.09, 1.11, 1.13 ERA Computer Consulting - http://www.eracc.com/ eCS, Linux, FreeBSD, OpenServer & UnixWare resellers ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: Re: [crossfire] Unban me
Well, could you *please* keep the political rants away from this mailing list ? This is devoted to Crossfire, not to what you think about Freedoms, Women or other conspiracy theories. May I request for the list administrator to take the necessary measure to regulate what can only be labelled as troll, please ? ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: Re: [crossfire] Unban me
This discussion should be closed, Goldwin point was reached. -Original Message- From: Mitch Obrian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Crossfire Discussion Mailing List Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 09:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [crossfire] Unban me I'd rather not join the pro-women's rights clique. For some reason I don't believe that women who murder their husbands or children should get away (regardless of the reason), I think said women should be hanged without a drop, then just before they die taken down and taunted and then strung back up for the final removal of said "goddess". Women should have no rights. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/4321130.stm Woman stabs husband because he is verbally abusive, gets community service. I pray that that woman is murdered in the streets while she is doing her community service... where's the muslims when you need them (or as cave tell's me, they're pro-women's rights too (their religious texts are atleast)). Death To women's Rights, Liberties, and Freedoms. --- Mitch Obrian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 6.4 billion members? The whole world is pro-women's > rights? If so then I'll welcome WW3 as I can't war > against the whole world by myself (thus the whole > pro-women's rights world destroying it'self is > preferable). > > --- Brendan Lally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 10/11/05, Mitch Obrian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > I was banned from the debain lists because the > > debian > > > people are pro-women's rights for the most part. > > The > > > ban had no effect, I post to those lists at will > > > (check out debian women's list for > confirmation). > > > > I'm sorry, I seem to be a bit confused here, > weren't > > you supposed to > > be supplying reasons why you /shouldn't/ be > banned? > > > > > Crossfire is a clique based project, it does not > > > matter how much one contributes, if you don't > obey > > the > > > clique then it's felt that it's better that you > > leave. > > > > I rather think that the set of people who do /not/ > : > > 1) repeatedly and incessently, troll about > women's > > rights and > > development methodology, > > 2) 'quit' whenever they felt they aren't getting > > their own way > > 3) immediatly rejoin after being kicked, then > > kickbanned, using > > various proxies before considering there might be > a > > reason for being > > kicked in the first place. > > > > form a fairly large clique. > > > > Please consider joining this 'clique' of ours, > there > > are another 6.4 > > billion (cia estimate) members waiting for you to > do > > so. > > > > > We wonder why there are few CF developers... > well > > men > > > usually don't take kindly to "do as I say > because > > you > > > have to obey!" mentality, which is the current > CF > > > mentality. > > > > If anything there is a /lack/ of this at the > moment. > > If you think > > otherwise, then answer this question: > > > > What will be in the next stable release? > > Which features, which bug fixes, which changes > will > > be in crossfire > > between now and when 1.9 is out? What has to be > > finished? Who is > > currently blocking the release of the next version > > and therefore needs > > to be 'ordered' to complete something? > > > > > Death To women's Rights. > > > > I don't think this point needs further comment. > > > > ___ > > crossfire mailing list > > crossfire@metalforge.org > > > http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire > > > > > > > __ > Yahoo! Music Unlimited > Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. > http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ > > ___ > crossfire mailing list > crossfire@metalforge.org > http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire > __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: Re: [crossfire] Unban me
On 10/11/05, tchize <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This discussion should be closed, Goldwin point was reached. ... Agreed, at least in the discussion's current form. I also think that it may be a good idea to keep more information about bans from now on. Possibly including the text of the conversation leading up to the banning. -- Andrew Fuchs ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: Re: [crossfire] Unban me
This isn't crossfire-devel, not everything is thus directly related to cfdev on here. --- Yann Chachkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, could you *please* keep the political rants > away from this mailing list ? This is devoted to > Crossfire, not to what you think about Freedoms, > Women or other conspiracy theories. > > May I request for the list administrator to take the > necessary measure to regulate what can only be > labelled as troll, please ? > > > ___ > crossfire mailing list > crossfire@metalforge.org > http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire > __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
[crossfire] Unban me from #crossfire
Topic. Women's Rights Delenda Est. __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Unban me from #crossfire
> Women's Rights Delenda Est. Translation for people who don't speak latin or are too lazy to google: Women's Rights must be destroyed. ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
