Re: references to password sniffer incident

1999-04-09 Thread Daniel J. Frasnelli

 At the 2600-coordinated Beyond HOPE conference (NYC, 1997), it was made
 very clear to users that passwords transmitted in-the-clear would be
Right, passwords always have been the weakest link.   
 panel singled-out an unlucky telnet user, announcing a domain name and
Not just telnet is vulnerable, as you know.  I've watched as 
security consultants ssh to a site, logout, and procede to login to 
another site using stock ftp.  The people are not stupid or anything,
they just don't think - hey, this protocol sends passwords in plaintext.  
You can get around that by establishing a secure tunnel or using 
Skip/an IPSEC implementation, but most folks don't do that yet. 

 Perhaps that the kind of shock factor that's necessary to get people
 (certain people, anyhow) thinking realistically about security.  We even
Ding ding ding, you've been awarded the "have clue" prize of the 
day ;).   Think I mentioned this on coderpunks, but Schneier has two 
"reality check" essays on Counterpane's site.  Good reading. 

 considered sniffing passwords and hooking up a line printer in a central
 location. nah! :)
Someone I knew who was using a weak password (a foreign word from a 
 semi-obscure foreign language) challenged me one day, claiming I would 
never find it out.  
A few keystrokes and a sniff later, the password was in hand.  
Using pop3 to transfer your mail to and from an offsite system 
can be very revealing ;) 
Seriously though, it's frightening to think of all the possible
ways an account can be compromised, and the limited public education
on how to prevent or delay many of these attacks.  

Dan



Just the ticket for those conferences

1999-04-09 Thread Russell Nelson

http://loaf.ecks.org/

Linux On A Floppy.  Get networking params (IP address, subnet mask,
default router), power-down, insert floppy, reboot.  Comes with ssh.

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Re: GeeK: Just the ticket for those conferences

1999-04-09 Thread eric jackson

www.psychosis.com/linux-router/ - same idea, different project. has ssh
also.



ericj
On 9 Apr 1999, Russell Nelson wrote:

 http://loaf.ecks.org/
 
 Linux On A Floppy.  Get networking params (IP address, subnet mask,
 default router), power-down, insert floppy, reboot.  Comes with ssh.
 
 -- 
 -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://crynwr.com/~nelson
 Crynwr supports Open Source(tm) Software| PGPok |   There is good evidence
 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice |   that freedom is the
 Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   |   cause of world peace.