Questions regarding export restrictions in Europe

1999-07-16 Thread prodigy

Hello

I have tried to contact the local folks here but due to summer vacation
and general ignorance I haven't been able to get a 100% straight answer
from the various government departments in Denmark.

I was wondering if its illegal for me to offer export restricted
software for download on my website. The software in questions,
is created and distributed inside USA, its illegal to export it
out of USA. Now, since this already happened, is it illegal for
me to continue offering downloads from my server located in Denmark?

Thanks for your time.

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Morten



Re: Clear Session ID in SSLV3

1999-07-16 Thread Eric Young

"Marcus J. Ranum" wrote:
 
 Does anyone have a pointer to why the session ID in SSLV3 is
 in the clear, rather than encrypted? I'm sure there's a good
 reason for it (audit? logging? other...?)  but I'm trying to
 pin down exactly why it was done that way. Can anyone point
 me in the right direction?

Because it is sent in the first message from the client
to the server.  It is intended to short circuit the
SSL protocol handshake and reduce the number of messages
exchanged.

Since the client and server don't have a known shared secret yet,
we cannot encrypt the session-id.

eric



Re: Clear Session ID in SSLV3

1999-07-16 Thread Ben Laurie

"Marcus J. Ranum" wrote:
 
 Does anyone have a pointer to why the session ID in SSLV3 is
 in the clear, rather than encrypted? I'm sure there's a good
 reason for it (audit? logging? other...?)  but I'm trying to
 pin down exactly why it was done that way. Can anyone point
 me in the right direction?

Because the session ID is used to restore the shared cryptographic
environment, for performance reasons. Hence it has to be in the clear.

Cheers,

Ben.

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BBC report alleges UK tapped all communications to Ireland

1999-07-16 Thread Perry E. Metzger


Not quite cryptography, but it is SIGINT.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk_politics/newsid_395000/395843.stm

First paragraphs (From the BBC):

Headline: UK 'monitored Irish phone calls' 

Subhead: The messages were scanned for key words 

The UK Government tapped all telephone messages between Britain
and Ireland during the past 10 years, it has been alleged. 

Channel 4 News said a tower in Capenhurst, Cheshire, was used to
intercept all telephone signals between Ireland and the UK from 1989
to when it closed down earlier this year.

The 13-storey windowless tower used electronic equipment to collect
and store all faxes, e-mails, telexes and data communications, the
programme said. Their contents were then allegedly scanned for key
words and subjects of interests.

[...]



Commonwealth of Massachusetts will support uniform digitalsignataure law

1999-07-16 Thread Robert Hettinga

Gotta watch that reply-to-all "feature" of listserv, Dan. It'll getcha.

:-).

Cheers,
RAH

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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:57:29 -0400
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Sender: Digital Signature discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Daniel Greenwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:  Follow up
Comments: To: Digital Signature discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello everyone,

I just accidentally sent e-mail (spam) to the whole list that was
intended only for Ben (hit the "reply" button and let it fly too
quickly).  In any case, general participants on this list might find
parts of my prior e-mail interesting, and some of the points deserve a
bit deeper discussion.  Later today or early next week, Massachusetts
will be publishing an official statement on federal legislation, but
here are some previews

One: Massachusetts has agreed (via testimony before the House and
Senate) to the principles that Ben has stated in his last e-mail.  (see
http://www.civics.com/content/99-legis.htm for the testimony of Ray
Campbell and myself).  That is, we are on record supporting the UETA
(general lifting of real and/or perceived legal barriers to use of
electronic records, e-signatures and e-contracts) and for some limited
federal preemption in the interim which disappears when a state enacts
UETA or other conforming law.

Two: The marked up version of S. 761 and the filed version of H.R. 1714
raise some legal issues that need to be dealt with.  In particular, with
761 as marked up, the the general provisions dealing with writing and
signing requirements are over-broad in scope and require either
exceptions or the scope of the bill should be constricted back to the
original version of 761 (dealing only with e-contracts and party
autonomy to use any technology or business model for electronic
transactional methods).  Some of our concerns mirror those stated by
NCCUSL, N.J. and others on and off this list (negotiable instruments -
UCC Article 3, possibly commercial real estate conveyance, certain
consumer protection laws, etc.).  At this point in time, it appears that
people interested in this legislation in D.C. prefer not to draw a long
list of exceptions and would rather constrict the scope.  (This could be
achieved by deleting the newly added Sections 6(a)(1),(3) and (4) and
also perhaps the attribution rules).

Three: Industry supporters of 761 have also voiced a desire to see
certain changes in 761 and there appears to be a window within which to
operate before the bill is voted out of the Senate.  However, even if
761 is voted out of the Senate as it stands out of mark up, provided
certain exceptions to scope were included before Congress enacted the
legislation (after conference committees, possible floor amendments
etc.) then Massachusetts is on record as supporting this legislation.

Four: Before hitting the "send" button on an e-mail client - ALWAYS
check to see whether the "reply" function addressed the message to your
intended recipient or to a huge list of luminaries.

Thanks,
Dan

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Re: Clear Session ID in SSLV3

1999-07-16 Thread Tom Weinstein

"Marcus J. Ranum" wrote:
 
 Does anyone have a pointer to why the session ID in SSLV3 is
 in the clear, rather than encrypted? I'm sure there's a good
 reason for it (audit? logging? other...?)  but I'm trying to
 pin down exactly why it was done that way. Can anyone point
 me in the right direction?

If it was encrypted, you couldn't use it to identify a session when resuming. 
Since that was the only reason for having a session ID in the first place, it
wouldn't make any sense to encrypt it.

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Re: Relative use of SSLV3 versus SSLV2

1999-07-16 Thread Tom Weinstein

"Marcus J. Ranum" wrote:
 
 Does anyone out there have any statistics about usage of
 SSLV3 versus SSLV2? I'm trying to get a feeling for how much
 product support there needs to be for V2 -- is there even
 a significant user base for it anymore? Does anyone keep any
 measures of version usage??

Unfortunately, use of SSL2 is still significant.  Anyone using a Netscape
Commerce Server 1.0 still only has SSL2.  This includes a number of major
ecommerce sites.  I believe that the latest CommerceXpert server from
Netscape/AOL includes SSL3.

Anyone using a new version of Apache/SSL or Netscape Enterprise Server has
SSL3.

When I was at Netscape, we asked Forrester if they had any numbers on this
stuff, and they told us that they weren't tracking it at that time.  You might
want to check with them again to see if they've started doing it.

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