Gotta watch that reply-to-all "feature" of listserv, Dan. It'll getcha.

:-).

Cheers,
RAH

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Date:         Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:57:29 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sender: Digital Signature discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: Daniel Greenwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:      Follow up
Comments: To: Digital Signature discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello everyone,

I just accidentally sent e-mail (spam) to the whole list that was
intended only for Ben (hit the "reply" button and let it fly too
quickly).  In any case, general participants on this list might find
parts of my prior e-mail interesting, and some of the points deserve a
bit deeper discussion.  Later today or early next week, Massachusetts
will be publishing an official statement on federal legislation, but
here are some previews

One: Massachusetts has agreed (via testimony before the House and
Senate) to the principles that Ben has stated in his last e-mail.  (see
http://www.civics.com/content/99-legis.htm for the testimony of Ray
Campbell and myself).  That is, we are on record supporting the UETA
(general lifting of real and/or perceived legal barriers to use of
electronic records, e-signatures and e-contracts) and for some limited
federal preemption in the interim which disappears when a state enacts
UETA or other conforming law.

Two: The marked up version of S. 761 and the filed version of H.R. 1714
raise some legal issues that need to be dealt with.  In particular, with
761 as marked up, the the general provisions dealing with writing and
signing requirements are over-broad in scope and require either
exceptions or the scope of the bill should be constricted back to the
original version of 761 (dealing only with e-contracts and party
autonomy to use any technology or business model for electronic
transactional methods).  Some of our concerns mirror those stated by
NCCUSL, N.J. and others on and off this list (negotiable instruments -
UCC Article 3, possibly commercial real estate conveyance, certain
consumer protection laws, etc.).  At this point in time, it appears that
people interested in this legislation in D.C. prefer not to draw a long
list of exceptions and would rather constrict the scope.  (This could be
achieved by deleting the newly added Sections 6(a)(1),(3) and (4) and
also perhaps the attribution rules).

Three: Industry supporters of 761 have also voiced a desire to see
certain changes in 761 and there appears to be a window within which to
operate before the bill is voted out of the Senate.  However, even if
761 is voted out of the Senate as it stands out of mark up, provided
certain exceptions to scope were included before Congress enacted the
legislation (after conference committees, possible floor amendments
etc.) then Massachusetts is on record as supporting this legislation.

Four: Before hitting the "send" button on an e-mail client - ALWAYS
check to see whether the "reply" function addressed the message to your
intended recipient or to a huge list of luminaries.

Thanks,
Dan

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