Re: Justice Dept asks Court of Appeals to reconsider ruling in Bernstein case

1999-06-22 Thread Greg Broiles

On Mon, Jun 21, 1999 at 07:26:11PM -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:

 According to the AP, the Justice Department has asked the 9th Circuit Court
 of Appeals to reconsider its decision in the Bernstein case 
 (http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/w/AP-Encryption.html).  The article didn't
 say so, but I assume that they've asked for a rehearing by the full
 court, instead of just a three-judge panel.

They've asked for both, which is how this sort of thing works. 

They advance two arguments in their petition -

"The EAR's Export Controls on Encryption Source Code Are Not a Facially
Unconstitutional Prior Restraint"

(arguing that the crypto export controls aren't targeted at expressive
activity, and hence not properly subject to a facial challenge on prior
restraint grounds)

and

"The Export Controls on Encryption Source Code are Severable From the
Export Controls on other Encryption Products". 

(arguing that the Supreme Court, in _ACLU v. Reno_ 117 S.Ct. 2329,
establishes that it is appropriate for a court to sever part of a
statute or regulation where there is a "textual manifestation" of a
distinction between constitutional and unconstitutional regulation.)

--
Greg Broiles
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Justice Dept asks Court of Appeals to reconsider ruling in Bernstein case

1999-06-22 Thread Declan McCullagh

I have a more detailed report on Wired News:

  http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/20333.html

My favorite part of the brief (I quote it):


 Another argument: That this type of 
 regulation is an executive-branch policy 
 decision involving "extraordinarily 
 sensitive" info that's too secret to 
 disclose publicly. "Judicial review is 
 particularly unworkable [since] decisions 
 always involve an appraisal of the 
 potential impact of proposed encryption 
 exports on the government's [signals 
 intelligence] and cryptoanalysis 
 capabilities." 


The brief also talks about how the case affects NSA SIGINT capability.

-Declan


At 07:26 PM 6-21-99 -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
According to the AP, the Justice Department has asked the 9th Circuit Court
of Appeals to reconsider its decision in the Bernstein case 
(http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/w/AP-Encryption.html).  The article didn't
say so, but I assume that they've asked for a rehearing by the full
court, instead of just a three-judge panel.
  



Re: Justice Dept asks Court of Appeals to reconsider ruling in Bernstein case

1999-06-22 Thread Steven M. Bellovin

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Declan McCullagh wri
tes:
 I have a more detailed report on Wired News:
 
   http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/20333.html
 
 My favorite part of the brief (I quote it):
 
 
  Another argument: That this type of 
  regulation is an executive-branch policy 
  decision involving "extraordinarily 
  sensitive" info that's too secret to 
  disclose publicly.

Gee -- did they happen to mention that the CRISIS report concluded that
the question could be discussed without reference to classified info?